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Title: Calling Bears ??
Post by: jrebel on August 11, 2020, 07:28:23 AM
I have a small valley (maybe 300 acres) that holds bear....my trail cam proves it.  It is thick....thick....thick.  There are open areas, just not a log of them.  I called on two different attempts last week with no success. 

So....My question??  Can you overcall an area or should I continue to try and call?  I know bears are in the area and close.  I have trail cam pics of numerous bear....one huge one  :drool: :drool:.  Any tips would be wonderful.  Even if they involve other methods than calling. 

Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: duckmen1 on August 11, 2020, 09:58:24 AM
I would have no problem calling an area on multiple occasions. Due to the fact a bear could have been out of the area that day and back in the next. You could also try changing the call if you feel that might help to throw something different at them. There's times even during calling that changing the sound could spark there interest to get them committed. Just be ready at times they come running in when you least expect it.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: jrebel on August 12, 2020, 07:49:20 AM
I would have no problem calling an area on multiple occasions. Due to the fact a bear could have been out of the area that day and back in the next. You could also try changing the call if you feel that might help to throw something different at them. There's times even during calling that changing the sound could spark there interest to get them committed. Just be ready at times they come running in when you least expect it.

LOL....I have thought about the "running in" scenario many of time.  One of my calling areas had about 50 yards of road each way and a small opening to prepare.  I was hopeful I would hear them coming but thought about cleaning my pants if I didn't.... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:   

I am using a 450 marlin guide gun with open sights.....If nothing else I can pull the trigger as it is running me over.   :yike:
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: duckmen1 on August 12, 2020, 09:27:36 AM
I have many stories about calling and bears in general. Sometimes they come in kinda lazy and slow. Other times they are full run. Better not be afraid of bears. Most of the time you'll  come up empty. But knowing I have that chance. But when it happens it is very exciting. For those that are afraid of bears bring extra toilet paper.  :chuckle:
Over the years I relied on more of sound then visual of bears to have the success I have had even when calling. Most people aren't comfortable getting into close quarter areas with bears.
Shooting them at 6 steps is closer then most care to ever get. But its a rush that can't be beat.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: Machias on August 12, 2020, 09:47:27 AM

Shooting them at 6 steps is closer then most care to ever get. But its a rush that can't be beat.


Amen!!
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: jrebel on August 12, 2020, 10:10:59 AM
6 feet.....   the 450 marlin along with the 454 casull on my chest.  If I get eaten at lest the person that finds me will have a couple nice firearms.   Maybe I should run a video to document my pooping my pants and possible death by bear.  Headed out now to try some more. 
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: cbond3318 on August 12, 2020, 10:11:54 AM
I have a question for you calling veterans, I had a similar situation last night, Bear was down in an impossibly thick bottom, steep canyon walls each side, 200 yds canyon wall to canyon wall at the bottom. I stayed 60yds uphill to
Keep a vantage hoping he would come out somewhere. If I were to call, Would you guys call right on top of him or back up and out and call?
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: Onewhohikes on August 12, 2020, 12:07:56 PM
Depends on your vantage point. If they are going to come a little further back isn't going to hurt.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: dilleytech on August 13, 2020, 06:37:12 AM
Iím on call attempt #8 or 10. I feel pretty confident some bears have at least heard me but the wind is never perfect. Might switch from fawn in distress to rabbit for awhile see if that works any better. I know one of these times itís going to work but man I feel like Iím just scaring them away at this point.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: Bogie85 on August 13, 2020, 02:14:42 PM
I am new to bear hunting and going out next week, where I have been scouting found a ton of bear scat and my trail cam has tooth marks to prove bear are there. The area is much like what is being described here. Super thick, with some areas of clearing. I was considering getting in a tree stand and calling them in and using my bow or my rifle. Any thoughts? Does getting up higher actually help?
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: optic2 on August 13, 2020, 02:55:38 PM
I use the ultimate predator calls app on my phone, hook it up to my bluetooth speaker, crank it up and place it about 50 yards away from me (both the phone and the bluetooth speaker). If it might rain I put them in a plastic grocery bag.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: saylean on August 13, 2020, 03:28:42 PM
I use the ultimate predator calls app on my phone, hook it up to my bluetooth speaker, crank it up and place it about 50 yards away from me (both the phone and the bluetooth speaker). If it might rain I put them in a plastic grocery bag.

Nice.👍👍

Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: ThurstonCokid on August 13, 2020, 03:33:17 PM
Are you guys using fawn calls at this point in the year or rabbit? For coyote i usually use jackrabbit because it works so much netter than cotton tail lol...


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Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: bearmanric on August 13, 2020, 03:40:11 PM
Raspy or fawn plus elk.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: jrebel on August 13, 2020, 04:48:12 PM
Iíve been using fawn and changing it up between my three calls.  Two more stands today with nothing.   About 4-5 miles in with 2000 ft elevation change.   Currently sitting on a ridge between two watering hole with known bear activity.   Cross your fingers boys.....Iím feeling lucky tonight.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: jrebel on August 13, 2020, 04:49:03 PM
Forgot to mention.... my feet hurt.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: ThurstonCokid on August 13, 2020, 05:20:09 PM
Forgot to mention.... my feet hurt.   :chuckle:
Stay after it! Itíll come together.. long story short i missed a shot on a bear at 80ish yards.. i really donít want to talk about it or give my excuses lol.. Iíll be out again soon


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Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: Bogie85 on August 13, 2020, 05:53:43 PM
Forgot to mention.... my feet hurt.   :chuckle:

I hope you get one!
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: bearmanric on August 13, 2020, 08:04:35 PM
Good luck.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: Deer slayer on August 20, 2020, 07:13:31 PM
Any luck with the calling? 


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Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: jrebel on August 20, 2020, 07:26:29 PM
Any luck with the calling? 


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Nothing.  One time I think we had a bear circle us and then wind us.  We are hunting crazy thick country so not 100% sure it was a bear, it could have been a doe too.  Those whitetail doe do not like the fawn distress call at all.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: ridgefire on August 20, 2020, 09:42:40 PM
Anybody have any luck calling to bears when they are visible? I had a bear at 218 yards tonight but didnt take the shot and then it fed into the brush. I thought about trying to call it in but was worried I might spook it. Tried calling right before dark in another area but no luck.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: HillHound on August 20, 2020, 10:04:04 PM
Yep. As long as they have not seen you or started to get nervous for any reason they should come right in whether you can see them or not. But sometimes it seems if they are not the dominant bear in the area they will head the other direction in fear of getting their butt kicked trying to get whatever easy meal is out there
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: Bango skank on August 20, 2020, 11:25:59 PM
Anybody have any luck calling to bears when they are visible?

Last august i spotted a sow maybe 200 yards off feeding on hucks.  Sat down on my butt and made a fawn bleat and she came running at me instantly.  Couple times sge stopped for a second looking my way and id throw out one more bleat and shed resume running in.  Maybe made 4 bleats total before i shot her at about 40yrds.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: Deer slayer on August 21, 2020, 12:40:33 PM
Any luck with the calling? 


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Nothing.  One time I think we had a bear circle us and then wind us.  We are hunting crazy thick country so not 100% sure it was a bear, it could have been a doe too.  Those whitetail doe do not like the fawn distress call at all.   :chuckle:
Good luck. Iím sure it will work out at some point.


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Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: jrebel on August 21, 2020, 12:56:27 PM
Any luck with the calling? 


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Nothing.  One time I think we had a bear circle us and then wind us.  We are hunting crazy thick country so not 100% sure it was a bear, it could have been a doe too.  Those whitetail doe do not like the fawn distress call at all.   :chuckle:
Good luck. Iím sure it will work out at some point.


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Thanks

My goal this year is to call one in.  It will happen one way or another and I will post quick follow up when it does.  Hell the bear in my area will likely sacrifice one of their own if it means I stop blowing on these calls.   :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:  If nothing else, there will be no peaceful rest for bears in my neck of the woods.......a constant alarm clock!! 
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: HillHound on August 21, 2020, 07:22:00 PM
Keep at it! It will happen. It is definitely a totally different experience  than  shooting one a few hundred yards away in a berry patch.  when theyíre coming in to what they think is going to be dinner Thereís a little more pressure on making the shot which is more often than not in very close proximity. I have called in two of my seven bears and they are definitely the most memorable And they happen to be the biggest too
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: dilleytech on September 20, 2020, 10:25:19 PM
I called in my first bear yesterday and arrowed it at 20 yards. With a jack rabbit in distress hand call. Took all of about 3 minutes for it to come running in. Pretty exciting.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: Bango skank on September 24, 2020, 04:34:25 PM
http://www.bear-hunting.com/tactics?ID=bb25ff54-7e78-43c5-93af-bea98d745eb3
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: Bango skank on September 24, 2020, 04:35:00 PM
I called in my first bear yesterday and arrowed it at 20 yards. With a jack rabbit in distress hand call. Took all of about 3 minutes for it to come running in. Pretty exciting.

Did you see it first, or were you cold calling?  Good job.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: ghosthunter on September 24, 2020, 05:17:15 PM
Are you guys calling non stop. Or calling a bit and stopping?
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: Bango skank on September 24, 2020, 05:20:48 PM
i wouldnt say non stop, but not stopping for very long
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: hunter399 on September 24, 2020, 05:59:35 PM
Are you at full volume or what.
Sometimes coyote calling I start out soft.
I guess it's hard to explain online.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: ibuyre on September 25, 2020, 06:59:49 AM
Iím on call attempt #8 or 10. I feel pretty confident some bears have at least heard me but the wind is never perfect. Might switch from fawn in distress to rabbit for awhile see if that works any better. I know one of these times itís going to work but man I feel like Iím just scaring them away at this point.

Man I know this feeling. Last year, I had a spring bear tag for a area. I know the area OK, and in my scouting in the spring (from the year/years before), I know where a real beast is, my hand, with fingers spread will fit inside his prints, with space all around. In the spring he hangs out in a swampy thick nasty area, with grassy meadows around it. At night he comes out of the thick to eat the grass. I spent that entire spring bear season trying to call him out of that swamp in daylight.... like 20 tries, e caller. At dawn, at dusk, mid day... was always mindful of the wind, and wouldn't call if my stink was getting blown into the swamp. He NEVER came out in daylight... When normal bear season starts, he's gone, he moves onto someplace else, I don't know where...

He might be gone now though, a friend in the area, told me that someone hunting on a farm in corn fields , latter that year, about 20 miles down river from that location shot a 600lb+ bear. It was coming out of the river and eating corn at night. I think he said he caught it coming out of the riverbed at dusk.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: dilleytech on September 25, 2020, 09:46:20 AM
I called in my first bear yesterday and arrowed it at 20 yards. With a jack rabbit in distress hand call. Took all of about 3 minutes for it to come running in. Pretty exciting.

Did you see it first, or were you cold calling?  Good job.

Cold calling
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: dilleytech on September 25, 2020, 09:48:51 AM
My first bear called in. Wonít be my last.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: Okanagan on September 25, 2020, 10:50:31 AM
Am no expert but have called close to 20 black bears and half a dozen grizzlies, plus observed another dozen or more blacks when they could hear a calling sound. I'll reply to some of the questions in this thread, strung though the experiences here.  I've never shot a called bear, though have called them for others in Saskatchewan, over much of BC and both sides of WA.

Intermittent or non-stop? I had called half a dozen black bears with intermittent calling before I heard that non-stop is better. It may be but intermittent works. My grandson called one to 58 yards on opening day this year using a minute of jack rabbit spaced between five minutes of silence.  I call more now than I used to but don't call non-stop unless using an electronic call. My usual is 15-20 seconds of sound with a minute or maybe 2 of silence.

What sound to call bears?  Most any prey sound, with jack rabbit distress my first choice.  Most of my bears have been called with hand calls, the majority with an old Weems jack rabbit sound.  Have called some with a sweet Rainshadow fawn/hare call, with lip squeeksÖ  When a bear is close I whimper the call rather than blow it loudly.  I've had two blacks and one grizzly come to rifle shots that killed a deer or elk.

Time on stand till a bear arrived within range has been from 30 seconds to 40 minutes, and I usually don't stay more than half an hour on stand.

How bears approach:  Some bears run toward the call sound, some sneak, some mosey in and some feed on their way in and act/pretend as if they do not hear the call, but they are working closer all the time.    Most will work their way downwind of the call sound.   

Then there are the bears that will not come to a call.  Some of those, like a huge one in the North Cascades, were in the middle of a superb berry patch and would not leave it to cross a basin to the call sound.  That one would look longingly at the fawn/rabbit distress sound, sigh and keep on eating huckleberries.  With hand signals from my son, my nephew stalked within 40 yards of that one and killed it in the best berry patch we found on the mountain.  I've seen a few bears bolt and run at the first sound from a predator call.  Either they are inconsistent and unpredictable in calling contexts, or there are unknown factors we havenít figured out when it comes to calling bears.  I suspect the latter.







Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: Bango skank on September 25, 2020, 11:01:56 AM


Then there are the bears that will not come to a call. 

Met one of those this year.  On september 2nd i was hunting a new area.  Parked next to a rocky cliff with a draw full of elderberries below.  Tried hunting but the wind was so bad i basically hid in another rocky outcrop for several hours hoping the weather would straighten up, then i gave up and decided to bail.  Got back to my truck and took my pack off, and as i had my key in the door unlocking it i heard a bunch of brush moving around in the draw.  Walked like 20 yards to the edge and a big boy was ripping up elderberries, but the brush was too thick for a good shot.  Watched him feeding away and finally decided to try calling to him.  He completely ignored me.  Once he was out of sight for a bit and i couldnt hear him anymore i thought you know, the road loops around down there.  I should tiptoe down it.  Started to but thought naw, i wont see him.  Ill just go back to my rig and drive down the road to see what things look like that way before i head home for the night and clean up.  Wouldnt ya know it i get maybe 1/4 mile down the road and that jerk was standing broadside in the open about 20 yards from the road watching me drive by.  He just didnt seem impressed with me at all.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: saylean on September 25, 2020, 11:05:56 AM
Ive heard of a book that discusses all this....it was Ultimate something...
 :chuckle: :chuckle:

Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: Jpmiller on September 25, 2020, 11:36:50 AM
What time of day are you guys calling? This is my first year and the only responses ive gotten are coyotes and whitetails in the morning. Very limited sample size though.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: Bango skank on September 25, 2020, 11:39:46 AM
Any time.  Theyre active all day
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: Okanagan on September 25, 2020, 11:49:36 AM


Then there are the bears that will not come to a call. 

Met one of those this year. 
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  He just didnt seem impressed with me at all.

 :dunno: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: dilleytech on September 25, 2020, 01:04:42 PM
What time of day are you guys calling? This is my first year and the only responses ive gotten are coyotes and whitetails in the morning. Very limited sample size though.

I called mine in at 3pm
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: Jpmiller on September 25, 2020, 01:20:28 PM
Any time.  Theyre active all day

That's about inline with what I was seeing on the cameras my dad runs at his place. The things were wandering by at noon when it was 95*
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: SpicyTacos on September 25, 2020, 07:32:17 PM
They donít pick up my calls...one day Iíll get one to answer.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: Bango skank on September 25, 2020, 07:38:33 PM
They donít pick up my calls...one day Iíll get one to answer.

Keep tryin, it will happen when you least expect it.  If you can get over next august i bet you can do it in 3 days or less.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: SpicyTacos on September 25, 2020, 07:45:52 PM
Thanks Bango. I plan on getting two bear next year! August is blacked out for real. And Iíll be harassing you as a tour guide!
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: lokidog on September 25, 2020, 08:22:26 PM
I called one in last Fall in WI, it came running. We didn't get a shot at it though.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: logola512c on September 28, 2020, 10:28:59 AM
"I've heard of a book that discusses all this....it was Ultimate something..."

I've read that book about 10 times.  Usually after I go out looking for Smokey in the I-90 corridor and totally strike out. That book is chocked full of good info (and stories)...  If I could ever figure out who wrote that, I'd sure thank them for publishing it. 

PS -- I wonder if humor comes through online.  :)
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: trophyhunt on October 21, 2020, 08:37:54 PM
Good info, thanks! I brought my electronic call tonight in the water shed, in a place the inspectors told me is a good bear area.  I used a cub in destress call pretty much non stop. So my questions,  itís late in the year, the bears are almost dening up. What is the best call to use now? I thought a cub call would be money since they are looking for some last good calories.  Also, how long should I stay in each area calling before I move on to another place, and how far away should I drive to start calling again?
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: trophyhunt on October 22, 2020, 06:36:45 AM
Just a bump, heading out now!
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: Jpmiller on October 25, 2020, 04:35:48 PM
How late are the bears typically out. Worth it to bring a call during last weekend of modern elk?
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: Seabass on October 26, 2020, 10:01:13 AM
How late are the bears typically out. Worth it to bring a call during last weekend of modern elk?

It's worth a shot. I almost always have a bear or two on camera into December. I have bears on camera right now so....
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: dilleytech on October 27, 2020, 08:28:31 AM
I donít believe there is a time thatís too late to call in a bear. As I believe our bears this far south donít really hibernate.
Title: Re: Calling Bears ??
Post by: logola512c on November 20, 2020, 12:27:13 PM
I saw three different bears (all within 250 yards of me) while I was out walking in the woods with my gun looking for the unicorn elk in 460 during modern firearm season. Also saw a fair amount of really new scat that was mostly still berries.  Not sure what type of berries, because I didn't see any ripe berries in my human travels, but the bears were still apparently finding plenty all the way until last week.  Couldn't shoot any of them because I'd already filled my tags.  Oh well...let's them get bigger for next year, although one of them was a full-on bruiser that's probably going to eat the last 5 deer in 460 this winter.