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Title: How much does/did he weigh
Post by: blindluck on October 28, 2020, 06:39:09 PM
Didnít want to hijack CA2017 Chewuch Quality Deer thread so here we go.

This is my biggest buck I have ever killed, I wasnít able to drag him but could only pull and move him 6 to 12Ē at a time he was huge compared to any buck we have got.i had no way to weigh him but he was huge. What Would you guess he weighed when he hit the ground?
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Post by: Jimmer on October 28, 2020, 06:43:58 PM
Huh?
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Post by: blindluck on October 28, 2020, 06:59:30 PM
Huh?
I accidentally posted before I was finished
Title: Re: How much does/did he weigh
Post by: h20hunter on October 28, 2020, 07:00:09 PM
Live weight is what you are asking? On the hoof?
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Post by: blindluck on October 28, 2020, 07:05:42 PM
Yes, live/ dead weight
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Post by: High Climber on October 28, 2020, 07:39:15 PM
Thatís a cool pic of his neck skinned out... big olí tank
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Post by: jrebel on October 28, 2020, 07:51:06 PM
I have no idea on total live weight but that neck is probably 25 to 30 lbs by itself.  If I had to take a guess I would say that is a 350 lb deer on the hoof.   
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Post by: wadu1 on October 28, 2020, 07:51:55 PM
I would venture to guess about 26/27 stones.
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Post by: Dan-o on October 28, 2020, 07:56:28 PM
Wow, he's thick.

It would be cool to know his live weight.
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Post by: Stein on October 28, 2020, 07:59:58 PM
I bought a $35 hoist scale to know for sure.  I don't think I will be checking a buck of that caliber though.
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Post by: lokidog on October 28, 2020, 08:08:22 PM
I bought a $35 hoist scale to know for sure.  I don't think I will be checking a buck of that caliber though.

 :chuckle:

The only useful gift my brother ever gave me was a deer butchering kit that has a scale.
Title: Re: How much does/did he weigh
Post by: fishnfur on October 28, 2020, 08:59:51 PM
love that last photo.  Looks like something out of Sesame St. 

As with the pics, if you're trying to judge size, you should put a known item in the pic so that the deer in question can be evaluated based on that item.    He looks like a fatty. Beyond that.  Who knows?
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on October 28, 2020, 09:49:05 PM
Pretty impossible to tell from a pic. Ive only actually weighted game bags and i could count on one hand how many times I've even done that.  Pretty standard and pretty accurate ratio is meat yield is 1/3 of live weight. So if you weigh boned out meat you can get a pretty good idea.

Whats the circumference on that freakin neck?!!!
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Post by: MtnMuley on October 28, 2020, 11:01:02 PM
Just butchered a 4.5 yr old avg body sized muley tonight. I trimmed meticulously, but took all parts on the hanging deer. Very minimal (2#) of bullet damage waste. 58# of perfect meat meaning no silver skin, gristle, fat, bone, or anything other that pure clean meat. That was weighed on a recently
 calibrated scale.
Title: Re: How much does/did he weigh
Post by: blindluck on October 29, 2020, 05:17:41 AM
Pretty impossible to tell from a pic. Ive only actually weighted game bags and i could count on one hand how many times I've even done that.  Pretty standard and pretty accurate ratio is meat yield is 1/3 of live weight. So if you weigh boned out meat you can get a pretty good idea.

Whats the circumference on that freakin neck?!!!
his neck is 30.5ĒĒ and the antlers are 28Ē wide for reference
Title: Re: How much does/did he weigh
Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 29, 2020, 05:57:13 AM
That's a big old boy with that roman nose. Its so hard to truly judge an animals weight when rutted up like that. Ends up being a guesstimate. He certainly looks like he's been eating well.  :twocents:
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on October 29, 2020, 06:05:33 AM
That's a big old boy with that roman nose. Its so hard to truly judge an animals weight when rutted up like that. Ends up being a guesstimate. He certainly looks like he's been eating well.  :twocents:
unless we are talking about bears. Then they're all 400lb  :chuckle:
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Post by: elkboy on October 29, 2020, 07:52:40 AM
Use the following chart for what may be a better idea, in the absence of a scale.  It is for whitetailed deer, but should do OK for mule deer.  Measure the chest girth behind the front legs, and find the appropriate row in the chart.  I did a little digging in the literature, and it seems that girth-weight regression models, like the one used to make this chart, explain a reasonable amount of the variation in weight (meaning, the model has a good "fit" or predictive ability).  Sorry for talking stats this early in the morning.  At any rate, here is the link:

https://www.pgc.pa.gov/Wildlife/WildlifeSpecies/White-tailedDeer/Pages/DeerWeightChart.aspx

If you want to do some slightly more complex math, here is Fig. 2 from Parker (1987), which is on mule deer and elk from Washington State.  Looks like a pretty strong relationship (there is one major issue), based on their sample, and that elk seem to just continue the same relationship as shown by mulies. 
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Post by: SeatoSummit88 on October 29, 2020, 07:55:55 AM
I'd guess 275lbs +.  Factoring in that you could drag him 6-12 inch spurts. How much do you weigh? Height? Pretty strong in regards to your age/build? Thats a big boy!  Nice job
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Post by: baldopepper on October 29, 2020, 08:16:42 AM
Years ago a a sporting goods store in Salt Lake had a heaviest deer contest in addition to their widest rack contest. My brother shot the biggest deer, by far, that any of us had ever taken. Not being aware of the contest he field dressed the deer and took off the legs. When we got it home a friend told us of the  contest and he took it in. Weighed 257 lbs, but he only took 2nd place to a deer that had been dressed but still had legs on.  It weighed 260. They had many deer weighed during the contest, with most coming in under 200 lbs.  I mention this just as a perspective of deer weights. The widest rack that year was 41", but the deer didn't place in the weight contest. I think finding a deer over 300 lbs is comparable to finding one with a 36" spread.
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Post by: boneaddict on October 29, 2020, 08:22:01 AM
A 300 pound Muley is a big ole buck.   There arenít many out there.   I saw a great analogy in the other thread.   Something like a 400 pounder being liked to a 30 pound steelhead. 
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Post by: HikerHunter on October 29, 2020, 08:27:23 AM
Wow, I bet he weighed a lot! You can tell he is big even without something to reference size in the full body photos
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Post by: Rainier10 on October 29, 2020, 08:48:00 AM
This is the biggest body deer Iíve ever shot. I wish I could have got him out whole to weigh him but he was just too big to budge. We deboned him right there.
Title: Re: How much does/did he weigh
Post by: OutHouse on October 29, 2020, 09:15:21 AM
I have no idea on total live weight but that neck is probably 25 to 30 lbs by itself.  If I had to take a guess I would say that is a 350 lb deer on the hoof.   


 :yeah:   And wow look at that neck! If I just focus on the body reminds me of a graboid from Tremors!
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Post by: Wanttohuntmore on October 29, 2020, 10:16:15 AM
Was this deer shot relatively close to AG land? 
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Post by: Widgeondeke on October 29, 2020, 10:28:16 AM
my only input is with a side of sarcasm.

Live weight = A    :dunno:
Dead weight = B    :dunno:
weight lost (C)  =  -0.5lbs    :chuckle:

That is a great buck!  Congrats  :tup:
Title: Re: How much does/did he weigh
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on October 29, 2020, 12:40:30 PM
Pretty impossible to tell from a pic. Ive only actually weighted game bags and i could count on one hand how many times I've even done that.  Pretty standard and pretty accurate ratio is meat yield is 1/3 of live weight. So if you weigh boned out meat you can get a pretty good idea.

Whats the circumference on that freakin neck?!!!
That's as close as you are going to get.  I've only checked the meat yield vs chest circumference on one deer, and didn't get a scale weight but: chest circumference prediction was 240 lbs live, yielded 87 lbs.  My highest meat yield ever was 92 lbs, but that was a definitely smaller framed buck but had unusually heavy musculature.  A friend got a tank mule deer buck out whole and it scaled 212 lbs hanging dressed weight, and was likely an honest 300 lbs live weight.  300 lb bucks are very large deer!
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Post by: huntnphool on October 29, 2020, 01:25:01 PM
 Here is a little guy from a few years back. ;)
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Post by: gutsnthegrass on October 29, 2020, 01:51:51 PM
Here is a little guy from a few years back. ;)

That buck looks to be almost twice the size of the doe!  Hope she can handle him  :)
Title: Re: How much does/did he weigh
Post by: dilleytech on October 31, 2020, 08:25:29 AM
Idk what that deer weighs but I know you didnít get 250# of meat off it  :chuckle: awesome buck!
Title: Re: How much does/did he weigh
Post by: blindluck on October 31, 2020, 08:44:34 AM
His huge body kind of makes his rack look smaller but he scored 184 inches including his kicker Total inches
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 31, 2020, 12:03:31 PM
I don't like to shoot big bucks they have too many steroids
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Post by: Gobble on October 31, 2020, 01:11:39 PM
A 300 pound Muley is a big ole buck.   There arenít many out there.   I saw a great analogy in the other thread.   Something like a 400 pounder being liked to a 30 pound steelhead.

A friend of ours has a pic of a family member with a gigantic mule deer buck from the 20s or 30s that weighed like 450 lbs, it was HUGE!! I canít remember if it was taken in Wa or Nevada, also back in the 80s my neighbor shot a 5x5 muley that he shot up in the wilderness area by Snoqualmie it weighed 242lbs gutted with no head, no legs, huge black horned buck