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Title: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on November 07, 2020, 05:29:09 PM
The time is upon us lady's and gents! My season is well underway with the same farms having beaver problems and testing some new floating colony's I set out today on the local lake. Helping out frankenyota get going is fun as well. here's some pics since a thread is useless without them 🤣 no matter the torrential downpour we had today my 75$ trapping boat was kicking along the only person on the lake had a nice chat with the local game warden at the launch who thought the floating colony's were a great idea
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on November 07, 2020, 05:34:09 PM
New floating colony(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/8c17ce415aca307e87d40d244616cf9b.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on November 07, 2020, 05:35:00 PM
Floating trap door(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/e164555161c18aaf96cb8cb2cb577f3e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/29a55762452bf05a1d97049dcbcd473d.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on November 07, 2020, 05:35:40 PM
Apples and carrots for bait(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/c6a0f6c64fef07d655f42392e2fafa71.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on November 07, 2020, 05:36:20 PM
I don't mind the rain when the lake is empty(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/cbfa5606be83d1666ec70235cda73bdc.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on November 07, 2020, 05:37:05 PM
Always nice to bonus some gear out of the car tails 🤣(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/a306770dd2b7cc0cfbe8f545a8f7dd9b.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on November 07, 2020, 05:39:02 PM
Prebait i hung up last 2 weeks ago and the following weekend had a cat hitting it(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/33475d4af90c33a8df4f60487fe0adb0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/bda6ee06dcdbcd18043d57db598a6f85.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/f5fdb9129dea049e34eee387c7c46f22.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on November 07, 2020, 05:40:28 PM
Closing the night putting up some beaver hides from the farm yes I'm still using the staple method trapper john 🤣(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/4ac1578a2acabd4290aad8f7e70938a2.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on November 07, 2020, 05:44:38 PM
Couple pics from the farm work up to six beaver so far 3 adults and 3 kits and still have another section of the creek with another colonies to clean out and the neighbors piece of creek as well (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/7747fbc20891d62b64c0636d22b0e477.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/afd096e8432c1fd0099d412c37ab148b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/2255ebea41154359c831e0983e5ca79d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/81bcd0685f78bf44c940c7a949501e31.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on November 07, 2020, 05:46:44 PM
4 new swim through traps built for this year 12x12x36 still working on more going to build at least 4 more 12x18x36 for cat trapping(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/d1e2528b2aa16505770a7e9043f45060.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Platensek-po on November 07, 2020, 06:48:34 PM
Prebait i hung up last 2 weeks ago and the following weekend had a cat hitting it(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/33475d4af90c33a8df4f60487fe0adb0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/bda6ee06dcdbcd18043d57db598a6f85.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/f5fdb9129dea049e34eee387c7c46f22.jpg)

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Is there a way you keep these from being cleaned by ravens?
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on November 07, 2020, 06:53:12 PM


Is there a way you keep these from being cleaned by ravens?
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I placed them in dense second and third growth forest with a thick canopy at least 50-100 yards from a timber edge so far no problems with Ravens just the darn long tail cat variety ripping them out of tree and packing them off deeper into the bush
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: greenhead_killer on November 07, 2020, 07:41:07 PM
Good luck this season! Great idea on the floaters. Might have to copy that!
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on November 07, 2020, 08:26:45 PM
With how much highwater I see in my local rivers creeks and lakes I think if it works it may produce just as well as underwater colony traps iv been using for years since I don't need to spend the time locating runs and dens and setting accordingly I'll take some pics tomorrow when I check there is a lot of cuttings up and down the outflow of the lake into the creek that I set on. Water that is usually 3 feet deep is near five right now so I figured wait half the season for the water to come down and find the dens or try out the floaters. It never hurts to try something new and Mike mattaney (hoping I spelled his name right) has already proved a floating colony works very well there are videos on youtube of his trap in action and i finally got a good look at his design thanks to trapper john and frankenyota. His design is a bit more complicated then this but you don't know till you try. I'm sure the design will evolve as I find ways to improve the catch, sames as my next beaver/otter/ bobcat cages will be collapsible if I can figure out the last piece of the puzzle iv been wracking my brain on the last 2 years :bash:
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on November 08, 2020, 09:40:54 AM
Beautiful day on the water even if the boat is empty(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/48ad6d96093930db86c79715c3772e36.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/be9c783e3e385b47afef6e5709fa1a7b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/4c52542ffe1c4d0aee7c2f0693e19e1d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201108/4540e5e1bec08a1955d95ce665cbf9c0.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Humptulips on November 08, 2020, 04:34:24 PM


Is there a way you keep these from being cleaned by ravens?


I placed them in dense second and third growth forest with a thick canopy at least 50-100 yards from a timber edge so far no problems with Ravens just the darn long tail cat variety ripping them out of tree and packing them off deeper into the bush
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 :yeah: but if you are still having trouble you can  slide a feed sack over the carcass like a sock.   Leave the bottom end open so a cat can get to the bait. Birds can't work it from above because of the sack.
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on November 08, 2020, 05:14:44 PM
Interesting idea bruce....
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Humptulips on November 08, 2020, 06:59:54 PM
I will not take credit for that idea. That is an old trick. First one who told it to me was George Sovie probably 25 years ago. There are few ideas that someone before us hasn't already tried.
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on November 08, 2020, 07:04:34 PM
Those old tricks are practically new tech to all us younger trappers since there are few people to learn from around here, not to many old-time trappers around that's why I always chit chat with them any chance I get always get some great information and ideas!

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on November 10, 2020, 06:20:45 PM
Speaking of tricks I brought the tips and tricks thread back from the dead for the new trappers this year. Read my last tip in there :bash: :bash: :bash:
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on November 28, 2020, 02:45:27 PM
Well it's pretty easy to get permission on a beaver spot when you drive down the road and see where the land owner has been breaking a dam open to drain his back 40 and stacking all the brush on the road so he can move it with his tractor so after meeting him and shaking hands I placed three traps out on this new creek(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201128/3e6e11b4e290fc2558d09fb3a9a3d405.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201128/ea6ec33a3af8276582b9c96ae15393bb.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on November 28, 2020, 02:49:28 PM
Trap set in place with minor blocking off and dive sticks. Owner said he has been battling the beaver since he bought the place in February so they are very active rebuilding dams he opens up every weekend. Between driving home to get traps and getting back (about 30minutes) in full daytime they had already placed some sticks on the dam(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201128/73fc2a2cc209b17c25ae217789318b64.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201128/8aeb41afb105fc47639262389f404bef.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201128/d5c1d1c83fdf666096896e6665b050f0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201128/0c2e5b75756f85d332195b9a3eab4939.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201128/e246b8f0f30de15f2891584e55e67d7d.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: JakeLand on November 28, 2020, 05:54:14 PM
Good sets !
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on December 08, 2020, 06:03:43 PM
I can't be the only trapper that every year has elk stepping on his cages and bending the crap out of them can I?  :bash: :bash: :bash:
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: ouchfoss on December 09, 2020, 09:03:00 PM
I can't be the only trapper that every year has elk stepping on his cages and bending the crap out of them can I?  :bash: :bash: :bash:
:yeah: Had that happen to me a few years back. I knew better because it was a well used narrow crossing point across a creek but there was lots of beaver sign in that zone and no other good spot to place a trap so I gambled....and lost  :chuckle:.
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on December 16, 2020, 08:19:25 PM
Finally connected again on a nice 30 lb beaver, think I may have had a double but had a stick jammed in the door of one cage. Havnt had that happen before hope these beaver don't get trap shy(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201217/8c700550e2472997039ffe0395f3a765.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Kain on December 16, 2020, 09:37:43 PM
Very cool seeing your season so far.  Cool idea to keep a running journal of sorts.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on December 19, 2020, 05:49:52 PM
Spent a while stomping around in the beaver swamp today trying to locate the den. No luck but craptons of sign in one pond so I can only assume a bank den is in the area just a few pics for you guys(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201220/cf3537fdcdab4ad37e2e3d1cf7c3e595.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201220/7c543c8591aba95f9571700958297df0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201220/c91c90aa486ac2694cdd2d3e5cda4edd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201220/522cd636934f5192f57d2b086595e456.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201220/b5100ada222a2752080cc9e3ff180525.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201220/6774f34a63c0bd3724bf2a3dec83f747.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201220/855f3dbf62402d48e564a5987f229afd.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on December 24, 2020, 05:21:35 PM
Slow going trying to catch the last beaver on these 2 jobs, so been busy working up some more cages
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on December 24, 2020, 05:22:51 PM
Think it will catch?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/6183558b5cb8b9280ce942ec0edf6901.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on December 24, 2020, 05:24:19 PM
6x6x24 conibear trigger powered door(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/fe1d5676322b22a55e1067bbd7092c1b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/805447e943b0274a8e4a34e312c9af09.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on December 24, 2020, 05:25:18 PM
Sure hope it works, I made 8 of them 🤣(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/c0c194e8d01b56c1ca936d2e6e93fe28.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on December 24, 2020, 05:26:44 PM
A couple more 12x18x36 on the go as well have to get some more wire to finish these up(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/7d988648ebe6b62d746069219cf95c17.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/c79c69d6e29ecd820a1a3ac92e6b7f8f.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: JakeLand on December 24, 2020, 05:37:08 PM
Nice !
People are going to have you build cages for them !
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on December 24, 2020, 05:44:39 PM
Iv helped a few guys here with instructions on building them they aren't collapsible yet like Bruce's traps but I'm working on that for a later date. I can't take any credit on the design though Bruce has been instrumental on all my traps feeding my any info iv asked big thanks to him! I just help but tinker and build stuff all the time so this is a nice break from my dirt bike quads toyotas chevys and dodge projects
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on December 24, 2020, 05:54:51 PM
Oh and by the way, Merry Christmas everybody!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/5b0ebff60e89be0f1dd6242bbef7f2f7.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Threewolves on December 25, 2020, 10:17:41 AM
Oh and by the way, Merry Christmas everybody!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201225/5b0ebff60e89be0f1dd6242bbef7f2f7.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on December 26, 2020, 02:05:53 PM
We'll figure it's time, into my fifth season I set my first bobcat trap. Brought my oldest son with me to help out. Cage is set on a bait stations that had been hit hard for a while now. Let me son setup a small cage for stinkers incase they want to be little bait thrives and he brushed it in himself so cross my fingers for a cat this season. Have five more cages to finish building so I can setup a short cat line this year and I'll pair each cat trap with a small cage for skunk baited both with beaver meat(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201226/2de9f971b90b7af8462122b9195fba75.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201226/6bdc11a3084f6e2359a977abf28b998c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201226/895fca4a1007beef2132f80a51b494c3.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: 3nails on December 26, 2020, 04:59:33 PM
 Hope you get a cat! Maybe think about putting a Koro out for those stinkers too.
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Kain on December 26, 2020, 06:09:59 PM
Thats awesome.  I hope you both get something. 
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Humptulips on December 26, 2020, 06:54:02 PM
A live skunk in a cage trap = Social distancing
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on December 26, 2020, 07:07:03 PM
The hellfire on my gloves is the same thing according to me wife and kids :chuckle: I have what I'm hoping is a scentless dispatch method on hand. Have to catch one to figure out if it works or not. Spent the last several years concentrating on beaver otter and rats and I think iv got those down pretty well figured it's time to expand to land trapping and get stinky!
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: CastleRocker on December 26, 2020, 09:13:07 PM
Back in the '80's when we got a skunk, we'd use what the old guys called a "push stick".  It was whatever length stick you could find handy, and tape the plunger end of a syringe filled with acetone to it.  If you took your time, and were slow and gentle, they wouldn't spray...they'd just go to sleep.  Don't try it on a big boar 'coon though!  It won't work, but will be a lesson on the term, "trap circle". 
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on January 01, 2021, 12:20:07 PM
Nothing yet on the cat line so I expanded with another cat cage a few miles up the road after some odd smells caught my attention coming through the window. From what I can tell something got a hold of a skunk and tore it to pieces, fur was scattered for 20 yard circle or more and the whole area reeks of skunk(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210101/9de57d1f5e73a64401e1a3988c622e49.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210101/b25a485b300ce9023d12d83bd548beb9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210101/e28bcedcdaa18d7e88ae5276f6c4c5aa.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210101/86878d3be0032cf09b974a99fe2ad674.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on January 01, 2021, 12:23:45 PM
So me and the boys set up just below this area in the thicker timber. Real close to an intersection of roads with swamp, second and third growth timber and clear cut. They are having a good time and so am I so it's all worth it(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210101/f59919e2cfd5d4ee540a71ab3ef5c0f6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210101/6b4516982ea13140425f357b0556a396.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on January 12, 2021, 06:52:10 PM
Finally connected last night with another beaver, smaller one maybe 25 lbs, anyone ever seen a beaver with a bent tail? This thing is wired it hooks over to one side(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210113/049ad650df267c603f0f984725a13949.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on January 12, 2021, 07:45:24 PM
Upon further inspection I do believe this Beaver was run over by a car I caught him within 200 yards of a major road and after skinning he had a broken front shoulder open wounds on his back in multiple places and the bent tail also looks like open wounds on the top of his hindquarters here's a picture of the hide so far and I'm really thinking this hide is not worth saving I think there's too much damage that I'll be able to do anything with it

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on January 12, 2021, 07:46:48 PM
Further down I flesh the more holes I find(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210113/75df44e634dc8ee1e816575f33a6c59d.jpg)

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Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Loup Loup on January 12, 2021, 08:38:24 PM
All beaver pelts have value. Its just that in this market most beaver will go as hatters. Hatters are technically bought per pound. Last year hatters went roughly $9 per pound. Im guessing this year hatter will be $6 per pound. Most holes, rubs, slights don't effect the price on a hatter.
Your beaver isnt worth much, but it's worth something.
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Humptulips on January 12, 2021, 09:00:36 PM
Those look like bites. Not unusual for beaver. Like Loup Loup said don't throw it away. It has a little value.
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on January 12, 2021, 09:35:57 PM
Should I try to show them shut?
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Loup Loup on January 12, 2021, 10:15:55 PM
No, wont change anything. If anything you could close holes with a couple nails. But again, with a hatter, holes dont matter. They are buying the skin for the fur to make felt out of. The leather will not be used.
Title: Re: Norman89 2020/2021
Post by: Norman89 on January 15, 2021, 03:57:18 PM
Couple cat/skunksets I got out late last night. Trying a trick from the wild north on youtube and instead of wiring my bait directly to the back door of the cage I wired it onto a small stick. I cross it through the cage wire and shove one end in the ground, keeping the bait suspended in air about 10" past the trigger. I also used a small chunk of fur that I dobbed some castor onto. Nice to grab a cage and a bait stick and a small hatchet and be able to do a hole set(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210115/b0e4693fb28082ec6efe7b2748b973fb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210115/c4f15704e4e7e34fe279638c0b40f1d9.jpg)

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