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Title: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: JJB11B on November 26, 2020, 09:33:04 AM
I have a Ruger All Weather M77 with the boat paddle stock, it's chambered in .243 and it is the most innacurate gun I own. I cannot find anything it likes to shoot. I was thinking about rebarreling it in something like 243AI or 260 Rem, or maybe even 22-250 with a fast twist. Does anyone know a smith that would rebarrel and blueprint my rifle? I did some quick looking on youtube and I didnt see a single video of anyone building a M77
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: b23 on November 26, 2020, 10:46:41 AM
Not all smiths are tooled up to do all actions but some that may be able to help you out and I know does good work would be Karl Kampfeld, Travis Redell, and Benchmark Barrels.  For what you have, those would be my first three choices.

https://rbrosrifles.com/

http://www.kampfeldcustom.com/boltfluting0914_002.htm

http://benchmark-barrels.com/Benchmark_Barrels_Home.html
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: JJB11B on November 26, 2020, 10:49:05 AM
Not all smiths are tooled up to do all actions but some that may be able to help you out and I know does good work would be Karl Kampfeld, Travis Redell, and Benchmark Barrels.  For what you have, those would be my first three choices.

https://rbrosrifles.com/

http://www.kampfeldcustom.com/boltfluting0914_002.htm

http://benchmark-barrels.com/Benchmark_Barrels_Home.html
I had intended to ask Travis but I have heard he isn't doing that kind of work anymore, although I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask him.
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: Reidus on November 26, 2020, 11:02:26 AM
I wouldn't blue print it. I'd just rebarrel. :twocents:
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: b23 on November 26, 2020, 11:23:19 AM
Not all smiths are tooled up to do all actions but some that may be able to help you out and I know does good work would be Karl Kampfeld, Travis Redell, and Benchmark Barrels.  For what you have, those would be my first three choices.

https://rbrosrifles.com/

http://www.kampfeldcustom.com/boltfluting0914_002.htm

http://benchmark-barrels.com/Benchmark_Barrels_Home.html
I had intended to ask Travis but I have heard he isn't doing that kind of work anymore, although I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask him.
If Travis can't hook your up give Kampfeld Custom a call Karl does excellent work, is an extremely nice guy, and has some of the fastest turn around times of anyone I've ever used.

To each his own, but I would never rebarrel a factory action without having it trued up first.  For me, it's worth the extra money to eliminate any potential issue/s and many gunsmiths won't give you an accuracy guarantee if you don't true the receiver.
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: buckfvr on November 26, 2020, 11:54:52 AM
Sent a message to a friend who found a guy in Id. or Mt. that does a lot of work on M77s, so when/if I hear from him I will post it up.  I do know he has several very nice M77s and he wanted to use one to build off and the information he was given made him decide to abandon the idea.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: JJB11B on November 26, 2020, 11:57:37 AM
Sent a message to a friend who found a guy in Id. or Mt. that does a lot of work on M77s, so when/if I hear from him I will post it up.  I do know he has several very nice M77s and he wanted to use one to build off and the information he was given made him decide to abandon the idea.   :dunno:
thanks guys
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: wildweeds on November 26, 2020, 12:02:55 PM
How many times has the stock been off? I bought a M77 in the classifieds section years ago as a project. Seller told me best the gun would do was 4 inches with handloads. Bought for 300 bucks, cleaned it about 2 hours to get what seemed like all the copper ever shot through it out. Bought  1/4 drive  inch pounds torque wrench  and reassembled to spec...... 3/4 inch groups with Remington core lock 130 grainers. Sometimes starting simple can reveal the fix that is easy. My former coworker is a machinest and amateur smith , his idea to start with deep clean and factory spec reset.
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: JJB11B on November 26, 2020, 12:17:36 PM
I did the deep clean, relieved the stock so that it is free floated and re assembled, no noticeable improvement
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: HighlandLofts on November 26, 2020, 02:15:26 PM
Benchmark barrels in Arlington can rebarrel it.
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: Mtnwalker on November 26, 2020, 02:19:22 PM
I did the deep clean, relieved the stock so that it is free floated and re assembled, no noticeable improvement

Arenít those m77ís designed to have some forend pressure?
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: Miles on November 26, 2020, 02:45:41 PM
Better off selling for scrap prices.  Put the $2 towards a gun that shoots good out of the box.   I have a M77 MKII in .270 and itís hands down the most inaccurate gun Iíve ever shot.  Weíre talking paper plate size groups at 100 yards.  I gave up on it and moved on.  Much happier since doing so. 

Itís not a bad 50 yard and less gun, but Bowtech has that market covered.
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: BigGoonTuna on November 26, 2020, 02:47:48 PM
A trigger job turned the shotgun patterns I got out of my boat paddle 30-06 into a 1Ē gun.
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: huntnphool on November 26, 2020, 02:53:40 PM
 Dropped another big buck this year with one shot from a M77 and Nosler Partition. Itís never needed a follow up shot. :twocents:
 
 Iíve got a project M77 Iím working on and am going with a Hart barrel.

 https://www.hartbarrels.com/Default.asp

 They do rebarreling.
 
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: Miles on November 26, 2020, 02:57:02 PM
They certainly have their followers.  If you like projects, they fit the criteria.

I think the tang safety m77s were better. Never have been impressed with the newer ones.
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: huntnphool on November 26, 2020, 03:11:01 PM
They certainly have their followers.  If you like projects, they fit the criteria.

I think the tang safety m77s were better. Never have been impressed with the newer ones.

 All but two of mine are M77ís (Tang) and shoot great, the project is a MkII.
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: 444Marlin on November 26, 2020, 06:11:23 PM
I had a 77 all-weather, boat paddle stock in 300 win mag that didn't shoot well.  I put a Hogue stock and dropped in an aftermarket trigger and was shooting 1 MOA all day with factory ammo.
I ended up giving the gun back to the guy as a holiday gift...he sold it to me because he was in a tight spot financially.
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: 7mmfan on November 26, 2020, 08:35:31 PM
Hopefully this one never needs to be rebarrelled. Newer than the boat paddle stock version.
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: BigGoonTuna on November 27, 2020, 07:25:44 AM
Hopefully this one never needs to be rebarrelled. Newer than the boat paddle stock version.
hawkeye?  i picked one of those up as an impulse purchase in a moment of temporary insanity (after all, what the heck an i going to use a .375 for?) :chuckle: and it's a fantastic rifle.  great rifle, great stock, the only thing that bothers me about it is that the detents on the safety are kind of "mushy" compared to the positive clicks on my mkii.
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: h20hunter on November 27, 2020, 08:04:31 AM
My 270 has the paddle stock....tack driver.
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: 7mmfan on November 27, 2020, 10:53:54 AM
Hopefully this one never needs to be rebarrelled. Newer than the boat paddle stock version.
hawkeye?  i picked one of those up as an impulse purchase in a moment of temporary insanity (after all, what the heck an i going to use a .375 for?) :chuckle: and it's a fantastic rifle.  great rifle, great stock, the only thing that bothers me about it is that the detents on the safety are kind of "mushy" compared to the positive clicks on my mkii.

One of the later year MKII All Weather before they changed to Hawkeye. Got it 20 years ago. Put well over 2000 rounds through it and it just keeps on hammering.
Title: Re: Rebarrel a Ruger M77?
Post by: birddogdad on November 27, 2020, 11:24:40 AM
the cost to re-barrel is approaching value of rifle (i think). they are "hunting made" with the marginal trigger adjustments of m77's, some year series you cant even get a :twocents: custom trigger to adjust (like a timney), may be worth your value to just replace with something a bit more "modern". if you have attachment :dunno: to this rifle then for sure, keep it and work it...but