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Title: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Barbaroja on December 16, 2020, 01:31:21 PM
Hello everyone I love hunting squirrels. Itís great fun and they are darn good to eat. I have a small area in SW Washington (cowlitz) that I hunt them but Iím looking to branch out and find some new areas. Willing to travel pretty far to find some other areas that hold a decent population of them. As Washington doesnít seem to have a lot of  squirrel hunters I was hoping someone on the east side of the state might be able to point me to some likely areas. Iíd be happy to swap location info with anyone looking to come to my neck of the woods to chase squirrels.
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: CP on December 16, 2020, 02:24:28 PM
My neighborís backyard is infested with them.  They feed them peanuts and the filthy rodents bury those in my yard, plant pots, gutters, etc.  They get uber aggressive, chewing up deck railing, garden hoses, whatever they can get their teeth into.

I have noticed that some of them seem to die suddenly from small lead pellets passing through their bodies.   :rolleyes:

Good for you for reducing their population.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Stein on December 16, 2020, 02:27:10 PM
We have them too, if I find out what neighbor is feeding them truckloads of peanuts.....

One got in my duck stuff in the shed over the summer, man I dislike those rodents.

We were running a trap and relocate program, but got tired of that and it didn't seem to make any difference, like there was a vacuum created that would suck a new one in for every one removed.

Both neighbors pick them off with pellets and they just keep coming back.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: NRA4LIFE on December 16, 2020, 02:37:56 PM
I got them running all over the place.  There's one that looks like he swallowed a softball whole.  Dang this thing is huge.  We can't have bird feeders anymore.  Despite all my best efforts, they got at them.  Might be one or 2 of them stuffed into my crab pots next year.  Worth a try I figure.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Encore 280 on December 16, 2020, 02:42:46 PM
Put a length of 3 or 4" stove pipe on your feeder post, they can't climb it. Unless they're coming in from above from roof tops, fences or tree limbs. Bushy tailed rats that breed continuously.  :bash:
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: brokentrail on December 16, 2020, 02:47:08 PM
I wish there were more of them in less inhabited areas to actually hunt.  I grew up squirrel hunting and loved to do it.  They are also quite tasty.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 16, 2020, 03:36:28 PM
We have them too, if I find out what neighbor is feeding them truckloads of peanuts.....

One got in my duck stuff in the shed over the summer, man I dislike those rodents.

We were running a trap and relocate program, but got tired of that and it didn't seem to make any difference, like there was a vacuum created that would suck a new one in for every one removed.

Both neighbors pick them off with pellets and they just keep coming back.

It is a virtual endless supply in suburbia.  It's hard to keep fruit on the trees, even trying.  Too bad a squirrel pole is illegal in WA.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Bob33 on December 16, 2020, 03:48:28 PM
Cal Anderson Park. Just make sure you have the correct T-shirt on and you're good to go. :tup:

Seriously, the challenge is identifying the type of squirrel. The Eastern Grays are legal in Washington but there are also Western Grays, Douglas, Red, Northern Flying, and Eastern fox squirrels in Washington.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Stein on December 16, 2020, 03:50:34 PM
I use this, 1 or 2 at a time guaranteed money.  Come pick them up and you can relocate to your yard and blast away.   :chuckle:

https://www.amazon.com/Rugged-Ranch-Products-100063928-Squirrelinator/dp/B0046VJ8RU/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA_eb-BRB2EiwAGBnXXsX8WB2tegIK53p7xxi5CjMZ7hBQpYeM0kA1HulmJoRfavEPzmg8dxoCzecQAvD_BwE&hvadid=410060304197&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9033354&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=10711695761547447878&hvtargid=kwd-452180884073&hydadcr=321_1012854509&keywords=squirrelenator&qid=1608162571&sr=8-2&tag=googhydr-20
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: NRA4LIFE on December 16, 2020, 03:59:58 PM
I love any product that ends with "INATOR".  That usually means that things are going to die.  I'm a novice, all I gots is a small Have--No-Hart.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Stein on December 16, 2020, 04:05:36 PM
They can't stay out, pretty crazy effective and all you need is a handful of sunflower seeds.  It also can be used as a secondary cat attractant once you get a squirrel in there.  I had to get a cat trap too, they were ripping up my garden and leaving presents.  The squirrels get pretty rowdy, but the cats are on another level, especially if they are feral.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Kain on December 16, 2020, 05:05:46 PM
The reason there are not a lot of squirrel hunters in WA is that populations of huntable squirrels are hard to find.  All native squirrels are protected and the introduced ones are in mostly urban/suburban areas.

This map is old so its possible they have spread a little beyond this but this gives you an idea of where Eastern Grey squirrels are found.
(http://naturemappingfoundation.org/natmap/maps/wa/mammals/WA_eastern_gray_squirrel_nm.jpg)
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Kain on December 16, 2020, 05:09:50 PM
There is also a population of Eastern fox squirrels but they have same problem with finding hunting opportunity.

(http://naturemappingfoundation.org/natmap/maps/wa/mammals/WA_fox_squirrel_nm.jpg)
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: lokidog on December 16, 2020, 05:29:28 PM
Cal Anderson Park. Just make sure you have the correct T-shirt on and you're good to go. :tup:

Seriously, the challenge is identifying the type of squirrel. The Eastern Grays are legal in Washington but there are also Western Grays, Douglas, Red, Northern Flying, and Eastern fox squirrels in Washington.

Good luck.

There is zero challenge identifying Eastern Grays... Is it gray? Is it not in the area the State shows for Western Gray populations? Yes to both of these and you are good to go.

 :dunno:
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: lokidog on December 16, 2020, 05:30:52 PM
They are delicious!
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Smokepole on December 16, 2020, 06:20:55 PM
Too cute to shoot!

Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on December 16, 2020, 06:21:33 PM
I love any product that ends with "INATOR".  That usually means that things are going to die.  I'm a novice, all I gots is a small Have--No-Hart.
Has anyone seen Perry?
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Kain on December 16, 2020, 06:45:20 PM
I love any product that ends with "INATOR".  That usually means that things are going to die.  I'm a novice, all I gots is a small Have--No-Hart.
Has anyone seen Perry?
Thats what I thought to. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Goshawk on December 27, 2020, 09:44:44 AM
The problem is the Eastern and the Western Gray exist in overlapping areas. Shoot a Western and your guilty of killing a protected species.  I used to hunt around Fort Lewis for Eastern with a Red-Tailed Hawk. Had a great time until I had a conversation with a new Base Game Biologist.  I had to admit that yes, I can tell the difference between the two, but not my hawk.  Since I'm unable to "call off" my hawk if it decides to go after a Western, I was asked to no longer hunt any squirrels on base. 
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: ghosthunter on December 27, 2020, 11:21:50 AM
My wife has some kind of huge squirrel hitting her bird feeder. Darn thing is the size of a rabbit.
She has been chucking rocks at it.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: konradcountry on December 27, 2020, 02:26:05 PM
The Easterns need to be shot.

Cute but they are ruthless nest raiders.

I've got a pretty good setup in Pierce for them but it is archery only.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: nopretext on December 28, 2020, 02:13:18 PM
My wife has some kind of huge squirrel hitting her bird feeder. Darn thing is the size of a rabbit.
She has been chucking rocks at it.
probably Eastern Greys. If you're not in a firearm exclusion zone you might bag some with a silenced 22 if you can get a safe shot... the state doesn't allow airguns for hunting or I'd be tagging some in my urban back yard  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: CP on December 28, 2020, 02:58:04 PM
My wife has some kind of huge squirrel hitting her bird feeder. Darn thing is the size of a rabbit.
She has been chucking rocks at it.
probably Eastern Greys. If you're not in a firearm exclusion zone you might bag some with a silenced 22 if you can get a safe shot... the state doesn't allow airguns for hunting or I'd be tagging some in my urban back yard  :chuckle:

Eliminating vermin isnít hunting. 

The city that you live in may have restrictions on air guns, but it isnít a hunting violation.  No different from plinking rats. 
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: royalhntr on December 28, 2020, 03:07:57 PM
They can't stay out, pretty crazy effective and all you need is a handful of sunflower seeds.  It also can be used as a secondary cat attractant once you get a squirrel in there.  I had to get a cat trap too, they were ripping up my garden and leaving presents.  The squirrels get pretty rowdy, but the cats are on another level, especially if they are feral.
A question for the trappers, can you use that trap without a trapping license? Looks like a good option. In the lean winter months, or when the neighbors stop feeding them they chew through our plastic garbage cans in the neighborhood. A clear sign of overpopulation.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Kain on December 28, 2020, 03:57:24 PM
My wife has some kind of huge squirrel hitting her bird feeder. Darn thing is the size of a rabbit.
She has been chucking rocks at it.
probably Eastern Greys. If you're not in a firearm exclusion zone you might bag some with a silenced 22 if you can get a safe shot... the state doesn't allow airguns for hunting or I'd be tagging some in my urban back yard  :chuckle:

They recommend pellet rifles for rock dove (pigeon) control so I dont see why it would be different for other invasive species nuisance control. 

"Shooting has been effective in eliminating small isolated groups of pigeons. For safety considerations, shooting is
generally limited to rural situations and is considered too hazardous in more populated areas, even if legal. Where
shooting is legal and safe, .22 CB caps work well, so does any semi high-powered pellet rifle with a pellet velocity
of 800 fps or more."

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/00628/wdfw00628.pdf
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Kain on December 28, 2020, 03:59:46 PM
They can't stay out, pretty crazy effective and all you need is a handful of sunflower seeds.  It also can be used as a secondary cat attractant once you get a squirrel in there.  I had to get a cat trap too, they were ripping up my garden and leaving presents.  The squirrels get pretty rowdy, but the cats are on another level, especially if they are feral.
A question for the trappers, can you use that trap without a trapping license? Looks like a good option. In the lean winter months, or when the neighbors stop feeding them they chew through our plastic garbage cans in the neighborhood. A clear sign of overpopulation.

"Legal Status
The Eastern gray squirrel and Eastern fox squirrel are unclassified and may be trapped or killed year-round as long as you have a hunting license. In such cases, no special trapping permit is necessary for the use of live traps. However, a special trapping permit is required for the use of all traps other than live traps (RCW 77.15.192, 77.15.194; WAC 232-12-142).

It is unlawful to release a squirrel anywhere within the state, other than on the property where it was legally trapped, without a permit to do so (RCW 77.15.250; WAC 232-12-271)."
https://wdfw.wa.gov/species-habitats/living/species-facts/tree-squirrels#
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: royalhntr on December 28, 2020, 04:50:36 PM
Thanks! There goes my Mukilteo release site idea, I hear it's great habitat  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Ghost Hunter on December 28, 2020, 05:47:31 PM
Read the RCW and WAC's.  Pertains to release of most wildlife.  Catch on your property, release on your property only.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: jmscon on December 28, 2020, 07:08:20 PM
I got them running all over the place.  There's one that looks like he swallowed a softball whole.  Dang this thing is huge.  We can't have bird feeders anymore.  Despite all my best efforts, they got at them.  Might be one or 2 of them stuffed into my crab pots next year.  Worth a try I figure.
I know some commercial guys are using mink carcasses for bait. Iím sure that a eastern gray would work just as well.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: konradcountry on December 30, 2020, 03:03:25 PM
probably Eastern Greys. If you're not in a firearm exclusion zone you might bag some with a silenced 22 if you can get a safe shot... the state doesn't allow airguns for hunting or I'd be tagging some in my urban back yard  :chuckle:

Just shoot a 22 from inside. No one will know.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: lokidog on December 31, 2020, 08:10:23 PM
probably Eastern Greys. If you're not in a firearm exclusion zone you might bag some with a silenced 22 if you can get a safe shot... the state doesn't allow airguns for hunting or I'd be tagging some in my urban back yard  :chuckle:

Just shoot a 22 from inside. No one will know.

CB shorts out of a rifle are as quiet as clapping hands....

The problem is the Eastern and the Western Gray exist in overlapping areas. Shoot a Western and your guilty of killing a protected species.  I used to hunt around Fort Lewis for Eastern with a Red-Tailed Hawk. Had a great time until I had a conversation with a new Base Game Biologist.  I had to admit that yes, I can tell the difference between the two, but not my hawk.  Since I'm unable to "call off" my hawk if it decides to go after a Western, I was asked to no longer hunt any squirrels on base. 

They hardly exist in "overlapping areas", just don't shoot them in an area that the state has them listed on their web site.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: lokidog on December 31, 2020, 08:11:43 PM
Also, whoever is thinking about using them for crab bait, slow cook with veggies, puree them and veggies and serve on crackers, delicious!
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Brushcrawler on December 31, 2020, 08:14:17 PM
Pretty good in the crock pot, shredded and mixed with BBQ sauce too!
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Stein on December 31, 2020, 08:18:07 PM
Get a squirrelinator trap, they canít stay out and then you can do whatever you want with them.

I have one if anyone around me needs to borrow it.  Guarantee it will get one on day 1 or your money back.

Shooting them is fun too.


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Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Kain on January 01, 2021, 06:37:10 PM
Simple colony trap works well on them. 

(https://scontent.fhio2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/134477529_10218330890804479_5855564916507885046_o.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=2&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=K-VVLQaVLRkAX_E58Ib&_nc_ht=scontent.fhio2-2.fna&oh=64ca5fe8befb5d3b05125d3b62a1a443&oe=60169A18)
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: dilleytech on January 04, 2021, 11:25:41 AM
We have them too, if I find out what neighbor is feeding them truckloads of peanuts.....

One got in my duck stuff in the shed over the summer, man I dislike those rodents.

We were running a trap and relocate program, but got tired of that and it didn't seem to make any difference, like there was a vacuum created that would suck a new one in for every one removed.

Both neighbors pick them off with pellets and they just keep coming back.

I have a live trap, what bait do you use?
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Kain on January 04, 2021, 11:56:09 AM
We have them too, if I find out what neighbor is feeding them truckloads of peanuts.....

One got in my duck stuff in the shed over the summer, man I dislike those rodents.

We were running a trap and relocate program, but got tired of that and it didn't seem to make any difference, like there was a vacuum created that would suck a new one in for every one removed.

Both neighbors pick them off with pellets and they just keep coming back.

I have a live trap, what bait do you use?

Cant hardly keep them out of bird feeders but bulk unsalted peanuts are what I use. 
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: CP on January 04, 2021, 12:02:50 PM
They can't resist peanut butter.
 
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Angry Perch on January 09, 2021, 01:41:03 PM
Just took one off the bird feeder with the blowgun. It was a bloodbath!
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: highside74 on January 09, 2021, 02:05:41 PM
Just took one off the bird feeder with the blowgun. It was a bloodbath!

That's impressive I bet you were stoked.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 09, 2021, 02:08:25 PM
I am not 100% positive but I found that all squirrels areprotected in the state and there is no hunting  season for them.  Looked over the regs and nothing.

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Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: konradcountry on January 09, 2021, 02:17:43 PM
I am not 100% positive but I found that all squirrels areprotected in the state and there is no hunting  season for them.  Looked over the regs and nothing.


Eastern Grey and Eastern Fox are considered unclassified game.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: highside74 on January 09, 2021, 02:20:09 PM
Yep Eastern are not native therefore not protected
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: lokidog on January 09, 2021, 08:12:24 PM
I am not 100% positive but I found that all squirrels areprotected in the state and there is no hunting  season for them.  Looked over the regs and nothing.

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The Eastern gray squirrel and Eastern fox squirrel are unclassified and may be trapped or killed year-round as long as you have a hunting license. ... However, a special trapping permit is required for the use of all traps other than live traps (RCW 77.15.

Living with wildlife: Tree squirrels | Washington Department of ...
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Angry Perch on January 09, 2021, 08:45:14 PM
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Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Angry Perch on January 09, 2021, 08:54:31 PM
Just took one off the bird feeder with the blowgun. It was a bloodbath!

That's impressive I bet you were stoked.

I don't know about impressive. Kain shooting carp  with a blowgun is impressive. But I was stoked! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: ghosthunter on January 30, 2021, 09:52:59 PM
Sling shot is a good option. :tup:
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: CP on February 28, 2021, 12:52:21 PM
There seems to be no end to them. 


They just keep coming.


Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: quackkiller on February 28, 2021, 09:01:00 PM
Hot legs!!! Highly recommend! Very easy recipe...
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Goshawk on November 27, 2021, 11:00:11 AM
Few game are funner to chase with a good redtail hawk than a gray squirrel.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: lokidog on November 27, 2021, 06:04:01 PM
Few game are funner to chase with a good redtail hawk than a gray squirrel.

 :tup:
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: NRA4LIFE on November 27, 2021, 06:35:47 PM
I'm weak.  I can't bring myself to kill some of them as I've named them now.  My favorite is "Adidas".  He's huge and has almost snow white feet.  It looks like he's wearing tennis shoes.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on December 04, 2021, 06:51:06 AM
Squirrel populations are growing fast on the westside . I see them just about everywhere I go and hunt but its not like back east where you have thousands and can go sit under the hardwoods and shoot as many as you want . I notice a lot more black phase ones now . just have to make sure your not shooting the western grey squirrel thinking its a Eastern grey squirrel , best info I can give on that is that the Western grey is more Silverish grey / brighter in color and more brownish around the eyes . when I was growing up in PA squirrel hunting was my #1 thing . I sure miss those cat size Fox squirrels . Its about time to return to PA next year for some whitetail and squirrel hunting .. last time I was home there where millions since no one hunts them anymore ! :yike:
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: lokidog on December 05, 2021, 09:49:09 PM
Squirrel populations are growing fast on the westside . I see them just about everywhere I go and hunt but its not like back east where you have thousands and can go sit under the hardwoods and shoot as many as you want . I notice a lot more black phase ones now . just have to make sure your not shooting the western grey squirrel thinking its a Eastern grey squirrel , best info I can give on that is that the Western grey is more Silverish grey / brighter in color and more brownish around the eyes . when I was growing up in PA squirrel hunting was my #1 thing . I sure miss those cat size Fox squirrels . Its about time to return to PA next year for some whitetail and squirrel hunting .. last time I was home there where millions since no one hunts them anymore ! :yike:

There should be no confusion between Eastern and Western, don't hunt in the map location that the State's website shows where the Western's live. Out of those locations, any gray squirrel is fair game.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Angry Perch on December 06, 2021, 07:30:13 AM
lokidog, have you been working on the squirrel population in Sconny? Looks like you're in squirrel paradise.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: lokidog on December 06, 2021, 07:33:40 AM
lokidog, have you been working on the squirrel population in Sconny? Looks like you're in squirrel paradise.

 :chuckle:

I did shoot one when I was back there in September. Also saw an albino one that I decided to give a pass this year. Next year he will go on the wall, if I see him.

I'm still mostly hanging here in WA, at least until next summer, but possibly longer.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: Angry Perch on December 06, 2021, 08:36:59 AM
lokidog, have you been working on the squirrel population in Sconny? Looks like you're in squirrel paradise.

 :chuckle:

I did shoot one when I was back there in September. Also saw an albino one that I decided to give a pass this year. Next year he will go on the wall, if I see him.

I'm still mostly hanging here in WA, at least until next summer, but possibly longer.

My pops lives in Prairie Farm. Went back a few years ago in September and had a blast.
I'll bet the TSA folks hadn't seen too many frozen squirrel carcasses in a carry-on! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: lokidog on December 09, 2021, 08:57:40 PM
lokidog, have you been working on the squirrel population in Sconny? Looks like you're in squirrel paradise.

 :chuckle:

I did shoot one when I was back there in September. Also saw an albino one that I decided to give a pass this year. Next year he will go on the wall, if I see him.

I'm still mostly hanging here in WA, at least until next summer, but possibly longer.

My pops lives in Prairie Farm. Went back a few years ago in September and had a blast.
I'll bet the TSA folks hadn't seen too many frozen squirrel carcasses in a carry-on! :chuckle:

I flew cross country once with a small carry on cooler full of rabbit carcasses. The x-ray guy looks at me as it goes through like WHaaaat?, I just said Cats....  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: broadhead on February 13, 2022, 05:06:30 PM
The reason there are not a lot of squirrel hunters in WA is that populations of huntable squirrels are hard to find.  All native squirrels are protected and the introduced ones are in mostly urban/suburban areas.

This map is old so its possible they have spread a little beyond this but this gives you an idea of where Eastern Grey squirrels are found.
(http://naturemappingfoundation.org/natmap/maps/wa/mammals/WA_eastern_gray_squirrel_nm.jpg)

Agreed. Map is kinda ok but they've opened up to more areas. Unfortunately they're mostly near urban areas. In most areas north of Tacoma there are no Western grays.

Once they chew a hole to get into your attic or crawl space it actually becomes total combat. It took me 2 years to get them in check. Just too damn many when it started.

I don't eat them but the owls, Coyotes, coons, possums and bobcats gobble em up like a Thanksgiving dinner.
Title: Re: Eastern grey squirrels
Post by: lokidog on February 13, 2022, 06:16:57 PM
That map is not even close to being accurate....
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