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Title: Four Dog wood stove
Post by: gutsnthegrass on January 04, 2021, 11:04:16 AM
Would a 4 dog wood stove heat a 12x20 Alakanak sufficiently in really cold temps?  I have heard great things about them, but it says they are rated for a 14x16.
Title: Re: Four Dog wood stove
Post by: ballpark on January 04, 2021, 12:01:39 PM
Almost the same SQ footage, I would say yes.  I have a 2 dog that heats our 10 x 12 and 12 x 14 just fine.  Been in the teens, just smaller box so takes work to keep it going all night. :tup:
Title: Re: Four Dog wood stove
Post by: ghosthunter on January 04, 2021, 12:58:32 PM
Almost the same SQ footage, I would say yes.  I have a 2 dog that heats our 10 x 12 and 12 x 14 just fine.  Been in the teens, just smaller box so takes work to keep it going all night. :tup:

I have two Three Dogs and a Four Dog in our cook shack which is 10 x20 and not as tight as a wall tent. The four dog heats it fine.

Wish I could find another Dog Stove for sale.
Title: Re: Four Dog wood stove
Post by: Stein on January 04, 2021, 01:30:21 PM
I agree, the heat output would be sufficient to heat it but the larger the stove the more wood it will hold and longer it will run at night.
Title: Re: Four Dog wood stove
Post by: gutsnthegrass on January 04, 2021, 01:46:30 PM
Almost the same SQ footage, I would say yes.  I have a 2 dog that heats our 10 x 12 and 12 x 14 just fine.  Been in the teens, just smaller box so takes work to keep it going all night. :tup:

I have two Three Dogs and a Four Dog in our cook shack which is 10 x20 and not as tight as a wall tent. The four dog heats it fine.

Wish I could find another Dog Stove for sale.

I used a Camp Chef Alpine wood stove this year and it got down to -5 at night.  The stove had to be stoked every hour with the dampers wide open to keep it almost bearable (the tent was still frozen inside).  I am looking for something that will heat the tent when it gets bitter cold. Do you think it will work in those conditions?
Title: Re: Four Dog wood stove
Post by: Duckslayer89 on January 04, 2021, 02:39:03 PM
Would a 4 dog wood stove heat a 12x20 Alakanak sufficiently in really cold temps?  I have heard great things about them, but it says they are rated for a 14x16.

Thereís a guy in Oregon named Joe. I have a 12x20 Alak with one of his stoves. He sells them off Craigslist. It was -11 in Idaho this year and my tent was toasty. I put a heat shield behind the stove or the tent gets scary hot. Itís a bad ass stove.
Title: Re: Four Dog wood stove
Post by: CastleRocker on January 04, 2021, 03:10:18 PM
I think I've seen the Craigslist ads for his stoves, they look pretty good.  We started using a military surplus Space Heater Arctic stove about 6 or 7 years ago.  It kept the tent warm in Montana a few years ago with negative temps, and howling winds.  It's got a setting for "below minus 25į" on the dial.  We've only clicked that on one night.  Burns between 1 and 1 1/2 gallons of off-road diesel per night.  Just have to remember to shut it off before you leave camp.
Title: Re: Four Dog wood stove
Post by: BoomWhop on January 04, 2021, 04:17:52 PM
I have a 4 Dog in a 12x18 and it is more than enough, I have a Bravo Tent with a snow slide and it was t shirt time inside the tent at 15 degrees outside during the late season this year. That's with no fan.
Title: Re: Four Dog wood stove
Post by: ghosthunter on January 04, 2021, 05:01:11 PM
Almost the same SQ footage, I would say yes.  I have a 2 dog that heats our 10 x 12 and 12 x 14 just fine.  Been in the teens, just smaller box so takes work to keep it going all night. :tup:

I have two Three Dogs and a Four Dog in our cook shack which is 10 x20 and not as tight as a wall tent. The four dog heats it fine.

Wish I could find another Dog Stove for sale.

I used a Camp Chef Alpine wood stove this year and it got down to -5 at night.  The stove had to be stoked every hour with the dampers wide open to keep it almost bearable (the tent was still frozen inside).  I am looking for something that will heat the tent when it gets bitter cold. Do you think it will work in those conditions?

The Four Dog is about big  as they get for a tent stove. Itís too big for my 10x 12 tents. Too hot.
But works great in our Costco cook shack.
We had 13 degree temps this past season and was plenty warm enough. In a wall tent it would be even better. I stoke the stoves up couple hours before bedtime with good bed of coals than a couple pressed logs and wood at bed time. Works for us.
Title: Re: Four Dog wood stove
Post by: jrebel on January 04, 2021, 10:58:16 PM
Why not just buy a Yukon cylinder stove and never have to worry about heat again.  I heat my 15x18 wall tent to the point you have to sleep on the outside of your sleeping bag.   
Title: Re: Four Dog wood stove
Post by: spin05 on January 05, 2021, 01:12:12 AM
Would a 4 dog wood stove heat a 12x20 Alakanak sufficiently in really cold temps?  I have heard great things about them, but it says they are rated for a 14x16.

Thereís a guy in Oregon named Joe. I have a 12x20 Alak with one of his stoves. He sells them off Craigslist. It was -11 in Idaho this year and my tent was toasty. I put a heat shield behind the stove or the tent gets scary hot. Itís a bad ass stove.

Yes i bought one of his first models. There a good stove. He has come along way now the new ones are way nicer then mine.

https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/for/d/canvas-wall-tent-stove/7246468755.html
Title: Re: Four Dog wood stove
Post by: gutsnthegrass on January 05, 2021, 07:43:33 AM
Why not just buy a Yukon cylinder stove and never have to worry about heat again.  I heat my 15x18 wall tent to the point you have to sleep on the outside of your sleeping bag.

This is the other stove I was looking at.
Title: Re: Four Dog wood stove
Post by: jrebel on January 05, 2021, 10:34:07 AM
Why not just buy a Yukon cylinder stove and never have to worry about heat again.  I heat my 15x18 wall tent to the point you have to sleep on the outside of your sleeping bag.

This is the other stove I was looking at.

You will never regret a cylinder stove as long as you buy the biggest....the Yukon. 
Title: Re: Four Dog wood stove
Post by: ghosthunter on January 17, 2021, 10:12:07 PM
I have my second Yukon cylinder stove that came with a tent I bought in December. I had one before and sold it to get a used Three Dog.
I know lots of guys like the cylinder but I donít. The top plate is hoaky to me. I like the square box much more. I donít like the screw in legs on a cylinder either.
Lots more surface area on the square box stoves and handles.
Soon as I can get a square replacement I will sell the cylinder.

Box stoves pack easier too. :twocents:
Title: Re: Four Dog wood stove
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 18, 2021, 05:51:35 AM
Are 4 dogs really better than 3?
Title: Re: Four Dog wood stove
Post by: ghosthunter on January 22, 2021, 11:42:12 AM
Are 4 dogs really better than 3?

Guess it depends on what you are doing :dunno: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Four Dog wood stove
Post by: lastmk8 on January 22, 2021, 12:28:46 PM
Almost the same SQ footage, I would say yes.  I have a 2 dog that heats our 10 x 12 and 12 x 14 just fine.  Been in the teens, just smaller box so takes work to keep it going all night. :tup:

I have two Three Dogs and a Four Dog in our cook shack which is 10 x20 and not as tight as a wall tent. The four dog heats it fine.

Wish I could find another Dog Stove for sale.

I used a Camp Chef Alpine wood stove this year and it got down to -5 at night.  The stove had to be stoked every hour with the dampers wide open to keep it almost bearable (the tent was still frozen inside).  I am looking for something that will heat the tent when it gets bitter cold. Do you think it will work in those conditions?

WOW, still frozen on the inside?  What kind of tent are you sleeping in?  In the past I've used a standard Cabela's wood stove in both a wall tent and my kitchen tent (shelter Logic portable garage type.  We've been into single digits but never had an issue keeping the tent warm.  Does your tent have a fly over it?  I know on either of mine, that fly was good for at least 20% heat savings.  Over the years we've also adjusted a number of things to make it more efficient.  The best is making sure we have an ample supply of madrona wood for the camp stove, burns long and hot, keeping coals until the morning.