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Title: Dog 1st aide
Post by: T-Dozzer on March 21, 2021, 06:39:20 PM
Pretty familiar with 1st aide for people. What are some items I need specific to my dog? Both for my pack & back at rig?
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: Westside88 on March 21, 2021, 06:48:15 PM
We found out last summer our lab is allergic to bee stings. They can have Benadryl, so now I carry it with us just in case. They metabolize it differently and can have more than you’d think
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: pbg on March 21, 2021, 06:50:21 PM
Vet wrap, gauze, EMT jel, Eye wash, Q tips and a Multi tool
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: T-Dozzer on March 21, 2021, 06:54:51 PM
Good call on the Benadryl.
I had saline on my list for eyes & wound cleaning. Looking forba small bottle.
I usually pack a syringe for wounds.
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: T-Dozzer on March 21, 2021, 06:55:22 PM
What about stuff for feet?
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: BLH69 on March 21, 2021, 06:58:55 PM
 EMT gel or spray for feet.
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: BD1 on March 21, 2021, 07:21:36 PM
Quick stop
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: ghosthunter on March 21, 2021, 07:27:50 PM
 My favorite, goes where ever the dog goes. Find it at Coastal and such stores.
It comes in gel too.


https://www.chewy.com/vetericyn-plus-antimicrobial-wound/dp/43929?utm_id=272259755&msclkid=d24221fc0a011c6651c941abf5e707e5&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping-Product%20Targets-Hard%20Goods-NB&utm_term=4585238367914570&utm_content=Dog%20First%20Aid

Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: Mudman on March 21, 2021, 07:29:43 PM
Vet wrap, gauze, EMT jel, Eye wash, Q tips and a Multi tool
:yeah:  Tramadol?  treats for meds?  Pack to carry out dog?
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: metlhead on March 21, 2021, 08:10:20 PM
Pliers
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: ribka on March 21, 2021, 08:50:37 PM
if hunting out west cable cutters for snares, big zip ties for traps

https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/H-1343/Bolt-and-Cable-Cutters/Cable-Cutter-7-1-2?pricode=WA9160&gadtype=pla&id=H-1343&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3duCBhCAARIsAJeFyPWNAwFUKQHOhW8mOUsQiis-l7B8AvwRaFXyihN_TBKbSDrnySA8YwAaAjYsEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

staple gun, quick clot, saline, small pliers for quills, glucose Gel, isrealibandage, duck tape, dog sling to carry out

https://store.mountaindogware.com/Black-Rescue-Harness-p169974080

Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: BD1 on March 21, 2021, 08:54:24 PM
 Pack to carry out dog?
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On my list for next year...they can be a game/life changer. My sister runs an HRD dog in Oregon...I will have her send me her complete list and post. All the suggestions have been great...packing a kit for my dog is similar to what I pack for my human kids...my dog is like another child in my opinion... I don't mind the extra weight to make sure I am ready to save her life :tup:
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: BLDtraLR on March 21, 2021, 09:14:30 PM
Quick clot or new skin for cuts. I talked to a grouse hunter this year and he said his dog died from a rattlesnake bite because he was way up on top of the mountian and by the time he got down and then drove all the way into town the vet didn't have any anti-venom by then it was too late so i'm not sure if you can buy and carry anti-venom or not but always on my mind.
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: hughjorgan on March 21, 2021, 10:20:49 PM
Quick clot or new skin for cuts. I talked to a grouse hunter this year and he said his dog died from a rattlesnake bite because he was way up on top of the mountian and by the time he got down and then drove all the way into town the vet didn't have any anti-venom by then it was too late so i'm not sure if you can buy and carry anti-venom or not but always on my mind.

They have a shot you can get for your dogs for rattlesnakes. Supposed to help if they get bit.
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: Sneaky on March 22, 2021, 04:12:18 AM
Pliers

Last season my dog came limping back from a retrieve and had a russian olive type thorn literally in the bottom and out the top of his upper paw around where the joint is and above the pads in the foot. Without a good multi tool we would still be out there... luckily the thorn and the wilderness first aid thorn removal didn't damage anything.
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: T-Dozzer on March 24, 2021, 08:06:20 PM
Pliers

Last season my dog came limping back from a retrieve and had a russian olive type thorn literally in the bottom and out the top of his upper paw around where the joint is and above the pads in the foot. Without a good multi tool we would still be out there... luckily the thorn and the wilderness first aid thorn removal didn't damage anything.


Wow.. no long term damage? That had to hurt.
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: KFhunter on March 24, 2021, 09:59:31 PM
Benadryl for rattle snake bites too can save a dog

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Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: blackpowderhunter on May 28, 2021, 12:33:15 PM
for foot injuries carry a pair of dog booties to put on over any first aid.
keeps them clean/keeps them from licking it if they are still able to walk.

for carry out harness, i have one of these on order to keep in my pack.
https://fidoprotection.com/
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: huntnfmly on May 28, 2021, 01:26:33 PM
I just picked up my pup a few weeks ago and the vet said he n his last visit that before I take him to eastern Washington to bird hunt that the have a rattlesnake vaccine that they can give him anybody else heard of or done this?
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: Taco280AI on May 28, 2021, 02:17:42 PM
I just got my dog her first dose of the rattler vaccine a few days ago, two total about 3-4 weeks apart. Hope we never have to find out how effective it is.
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: BD1 on May 28, 2021, 02:28:40 PM
You guys realize they put tracking and mind control devices in those vaccines  :rolleyes: :chuckle:
In all seriousness I hope you all don't have to test how well they work. I think if I lived on the eastside I would give it to my dog. I had never heard of it before this thread. How did you dogs react to the vaccine? Have they been around long?  Cost?
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: huntnfmly on May 28, 2021, 02:30:25 PM
I just got my dog her first dose of the rattler vaccine a few days ago, two total about 3-4 weeks apart. Hope we never have to find out how effective it is.
I had never heard of a pre bite vaccine  before my vet said anything sounds like a good thing and yes hopefully never have to find out how effective it is
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: huntnfmly on May 28, 2021, 02:33:54 PM
You guys realize they put tracking and mind control devices in those vaccines  :rolleyes: :chuckle:
In all seriousness I hope you all don't have to test how well they work. I think if I lived on the eastside I would give it to my dog. I had never heard of it before this thread. How did you dogs react to the vaccine? Have they been around long?  Cost?
😂
It sounded like my vet just started using it and was reasonably priced but may have been around a lot longer?
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: Taco280AI on May 28, 2021, 02:39:50 PM
Only $39 a dose (x2) up front, then once a year after that. She seemed fine, no reactions to it.
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: huntnfmly on May 28, 2021, 02:45:51 PM
Only $39 a dose (x2) up front, then once a year after that. She seemed fine, no reactions to it.
👍
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: 509 on May 28, 2021, 06:11:35 PM
Pack to carry out dog?

On my list for next year...they can be a game/life changer. My sister runs an HRD dog in Oregon...I will have her send me her complete list and post. All the suggestions have been great...packing a kit for my dog is similar to what I pack for my human kids...my dog is like another child in my opinion... I don't mind the extra weight to make sure I am ready to save her life :tup:
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Did you get the list from her??  I would love to see it.  This would be a pretty good thread to pin.  I do carry a first aid kit, but wondered if I had the right items in it.

On the rattlesnake vaccine.  Over a decade now.  At first my Vet said he only saw TWO dogs that were vaccinated.  One looked like he NEVER met the snake.  The other looked like he NEVER met the vaccine.

These days, his opinion is do it. $30 for the initial shot, plus a follow up in six months.  Then $30 a year.

Cheap insurance.
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: BD1 on May 28, 2021, 11:12:45 PM
Sorry I totally forgot to get her list...I will post it soon. Keep in mind that she isn't carrying all the gear that most hunters do but I will post nonetheless. Thanks for the info on the snake stuff. Unfortunately I rarely get to hunt that side of the mountains but I would get my dog the shot if I did. :tup: 
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: Gettin Birdie on May 29, 2021, 09:14:57 AM
If you hunt in the SE corner of the state, east of the blues, I'd definitely recommend the rattler vaccine, did it for our dogs.  I've encountered tons of rattlers out there, and my dog has stepped over them, saw it coming, but couldn't do nothing in time, that was a hold my breath moment!  There are plenty around tri cities too, if in the right place, so overall recommend it for anyone on the eastside hunting, better safe than sorry.  Maybe some throw up juice (Hydrogen peroxide?) in case they get into something bad, my dog attempted to eat some mushrooms before, not sure if poisonous or not, but don't want to find out.  Like the packout bag, going to have to get me one, dad had his dog get dehydrated in a january hunt in SD, had to carry the dog back to the rig, so good to have that, lesson learned!   
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: ribka on May 29, 2021, 09:37:03 AM
dog sling. Wish had one last year carrying out dog.
Cable cutters, zip ties for traps, snares barbed wire


good pair of hemostats or pliers

liquid bandages, quick clot

number to emergency vet in area you are hunting.

got the snake vaccine
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: Forks on May 30, 2021, 06:11:23 AM
Stapler for tears/rips is always my vest. Clean it..fix it...back to hunting.
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: aorams on May 30, 2021, 06:56:52 AM
A few years back our dog got hypothermia on a very cold snowshoe hike. He got so sick he couldn’t walk and could barely hold himself up. We were a good 3 miles from the car. We had purchased on of these: https://fidoprotection.com/ years earlier on a whim and we had it with us so I was able to wrap him in my insulation layers and carry him out. Once we dropped a bunch of elevation and got into the timber he perked up a bit and was able to start slowly walking again which warmed him up enough to get to the car but it was a scary little hour or so. I’m more careful now about where and when we take him places now but also have the carrier in my backpack whenever he’s with me. Like anything though make sure you practice with it first
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: T-Dozzer on May 31, 2021, 10:25:36 AM
The final rise upland pack has a built in dog pack out deal.
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: Kola16 on June 01, 2021, 12:08:13 PM
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Pack to carry out dog?

On my list for next year...they can be a game/life changer. My sister runs an HRD dog in Oregon...I will have her send me her complete list and post. All the suggestions have been great...packing a kit for my dog is similar to what I pack for my human kids...my dog is like another child in my opinion... I don't mind the extra weight to make sure I am ready to save her life :tup:

Did you get the list from her??  I would love to see it.  This would be a pretty good thread to pin.  I do carry a first aid kit, but wondered if I had the right items in it.

On the rattlesnake vaccine.  Over a decade now.  At first my Vet said he only saw TWO dogs that were vaccinated.  One looked like he NEVER met the snake.  The other looked like he NEVER met the vaccine.

These days, his opinion is do it. $30 for the initial shot, plus a follow up in six months.  Then $30 a year.

Cheap insurance.
My girlfriend's vet recommended getting the rattlesnake vaccine for her dog while she lived in Texas for a few months. I will be getting it for my dog for sure for hunting the banks of the Columbia. $30 is cheap for something like that for how prevalent snakes are!
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: frazierw on June 01, 2021, 12:47:11 PM
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Pack to carry out dog?

On my list for next year...they can be a game/life changer. My sister runs an HRD dog in Oregon...I will have her send me her complete list and post. All the suggestions have been great...packing a kit for my dog is similar to what I pack for my human kids...my dog is like another child in my opinion... I don't mind the extra weight to make sure I am ready to save her life :tup:

Did you get the list from her??  I would love to see it.  This would be a pretty good thread to pin.  I do carry a first aid kit, but wondered if I had the right items in it.

On the rattlesnake vaccine.  Over a decade now.  At first my Vet said he only saw TWO dogs that were vaccinated.  One looked like he NEVER met the snake.  The other looked like he NEVER met the vaccine.

These days, his opinion is do it. $30 for the initial shot, plus a follow up in six months.  Then $30 a year.

Cheap insurance.
My girlfriend's vet recommended getting the rattlesnake vaccine for her dog while she lived in Texas for a few months. I will be getting it for my dog for sure for hunting the banks of the Columbia. $30 is cheap for something like that for how prevalent snakes are!

I asked my vet about the rattlesnake vaccine, we had 3 pups and the mama get bit last year.  He said the vaccine only buys you a few hours, you still have to get the antidote, even if they are vaccinated.
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: T-Dozzer on June 01, 2021, 02:13:01 PM
How old do the pups need to be before getting the snake bite shots?
Title: Re: Dog 1st aide
Post by: Kola16 on June 01, 2021, 02:21:55 PM
From a California vet...
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https://www.thedrakecenter.com/services/dogs/blog/rattlesnake-vaccine-right-your-dog (https://www.thedrakecenter.com/services/dogs/blog/rattlesnake-vaccine-right-your-dog)
On average, the doctors at The Drake Center treat one snake bite per week in peak rattlesnake season, between the months of May and September. Thankfully, a preventative vaccine is currently available for dogs—but is it a good fit for your family?

This vaccine—given in two doses one month apart the first year, followed by an annual booster— stimulates the immune system to generate protective antibodies against rattlesnake venom. These protective antibodies function by neutralizing the venom in the case of a bite. After vaccination, dogs are reported to experience less pain and have a reduced risk of permanent injury from rattlesnake bites. Testing has been performed to show that serum from vaccinated dogs and other animals neutralizes venom from a number of species of Crotalus found in the United States.

It is essential to note, however, that the vaccine does not eliminate the need to seek emergency veterinary care after the pet is bitten. Even a vaccinated dog may still go into shock and need lifesaving medical care, including an injection of antivenin to neutralize the toxicity of the venom. The vaccine also does not provide protection against venom from the Water Moccasin (Cottonmouth), Mojave Rattlesnake or Coral Snake.

Treatment for rattlesnake evenomation involves:

-Treating for shock with intravenous fluids, pain medications and steroids
-Treating the wound with topical therapy and antibiotics
-Testing and treating for coagulopathies (trouble clotting the blood)
-Administration of intravenous antivenin and monitoring for anaphylactic reactions
-All pets will need to be hospitalized and most pets will need 24-hour care at an emergency hospital even with the vaccination.
How old do the pups need to be before getting the snake bite shots?
Methow vet says 4 months. https://www.methowvalleyvethospital.com/rattlesnake-vaccine-faq.html
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