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Title: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: RallyDawg on May 06, 2021, 12:46:16 PM
My boys (5 and 7) are finally old enough to tag along on a hunt so I have decided to cash in my WY antelope points.  I currently have 5 points and do not have a problem going into the special draw since we are already planning on being in the Grand Tetons the first half of the trip.  I have been looking into Unit 72 since I would have good odds in the regular draw but wanted to know if there are any other unit that one would recommend if they were taking out kids while still having a high potential for success.  I want this to been a great leaning experience for the boys so I am not planning on holding out and burning points waiting for monster. 

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Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: opdinkslayer on May 06, 2021, 12:56:43 PM
Look at the odds,tag numbers & amount of public ground in the unit. Killing an antelope in Wyoming is pretty much a guarantee if you can shoot straight & not looking for an 80er
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Karl Blanchard on May 06, 2021, 01:02:53 PM
If you try and draw 72 regular with 5pts you won't draw. Id look elsewhere or go special. Even special may creep on you though. Between high demand and big tag cuts, id be looking at 3pt units :twocents:
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: RallyDawg on May 06, 2021, 01:15:28 PM
If you try and draw 72 regular with 5pts you won't draw. Id look elsewhere or go special. Even special may creep on you though. Between high demand and big tag cuts, id be looking at 3pt units :twocents:
Thanks for the advise.  I was wondering about points creep this year in combo of the cuts and how similar the 2020 odds stated in their Hunt Planner compared to this year would be.  According to the 2020 odds you drew with 5 points for 72. 
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Ridgerunner on May 06, 2021, 01:40:39 PM
Look at special, will open up lots of options.  You shouldn't have a problem finding and killing a good antelope in units you can draw with 5 points at all, even with your kids. 
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: ShaneTyTrey on May 06, 2021, 01:41:16 PM
If you try and draw 72 regular with 5pts you won't draw. Id look elsewhere or go special. Even special may creep on you though. Between high demand and big tag cuts, id be looking at 3pt units :twocents:

100% agree, point creep has been lately on many units and the tags cuts this year are going to really mix things up.  Good luck.
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Bob33 on May 06, 2021, 02:09:55 PM
Here are 2020 draw odds:

https://wgfd.wyo.gov/Hunting/Drawing-Odds/2020-Drawing-Odds

In the 2020 preference points draw five points would have almost certain worked, and in the Special draw it took four points. Add another point for points creep and possibly more, although the proposal for 72 is to increase type 1 licenses from 600 to 700 this year so that helps.

I've hunted that unit before several times and enjoyed it. There is a fair amount of public land interspersed throughout. An ownership chip like onX is essential.  Good luck.
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: RallyDawg on May 06, 2021, 03:04:22 PM
I tried looking for the project 2021 tag allocations for each unit but couldn't find anything on their website.  Where did you see that 72 is getting a tag increase?   
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Bob33 on May 06, 2021, 03:20:33 PM
I tried looking for the project 2021 tag allocations for each unit but couldn't find anything on their website.  Where did you see that 72 is getting a tag increase?
https://wgfd.wyo.gov/WGFD/media/content/April_CH-5_Draft-3-22-2021-4.pdf
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: RallyDawg on May 06, 2021, 03:33:34 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Farmer72 on May 06, 2021, 06:22:29 PM
If you look the regs. are up for 2021 with the current numbers. The commission adopted the proposals but the governor has to do the final sign-off yet.
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Pathfinder101 on May 07, 2021, 08:31:03 AM
Just lurking here. :peep:  I'll have 5 points after I buy this summer.  Might cash mine in next year... :dunno:
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: actionshooter on May 07, 2021, 10:16:51 PM
I'm cashing in my 7 points this year and from everything I have read, I'll probably be putting in for a 4 point unit just so we can avoid the point creep.
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Karl Blanchard on May 07, 2021, 10:51:01 PM
I'm cashing in my 7 points this year and from everything I have read, I'll probably be putting in for a 4 point unit just so we can avoid the point creep.
im in with 7 as well. Can't believe I'm antelope hunting instead of mule deer hunting in WY this year 🤦‍♂️  :chuckle:
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on May 08, 2021, 09:26:43 AM
I'm cashing in my 7 points this year and from everything I have read, I'll probably be putting in for a 4 point unit just so we can avoid the point creep.
im in with 7 as well. Can't believe I'm antelope hunting instead of mule deer hunting in WY this year 🤦‍♂️  :chuckle:
Antelope hunting is better than hunting those big stinky elk at least


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Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: jamesfromseattle on May 08, 2021, 09:50:34 AM
I'm in with 6 this year.  Eyeing a unit where most drew with less than 5 last year, but the tag cuts are making me nervous.  Might go even more conservative because I'd really like to go hunting this year.

I did not intend to acquire 6 points but I've gotten burned by point creep the couple previous times I've put in.  And gotten statistically unlucky in addition to the point creep.  My wife, on the other hand, has put in for moonshot random tags and drawn twice.  Go figure.
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: go4steelhd on May 08, 2021, 12:58:22 PM
If you draw 72 you will see lots of bucks every day maybe even a big buck. Your kids will enjoy it. Antelope is one of my favorites to take my son on.( Hes 6 now and I have taken him on three antelope hunts)
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: RallyDawg on May 09, 2021, 12:33:40 PM
Thanks for all the info.  I have decided to go in the special draw for 72.  I have OnX but would like to get map that shows public roads since it is a bit checkerboarded.  What is the best place to get a map with public/county roads? 
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Bob33 on May 09, 2021, 01:07:18 PM
http://www.natrona.net/67/Road-Bridge

You can view a county map there.

There are several public sections off Poison Spider Road.

Good luck.
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: actionshooter on May 09, 2021, 02:45:21 PM
I'm cashing in my 7 points this year and from everything I have read, I'll probably be putting in for a 4 point unit just so we can avoid the point creep.
im in with 7 as well. Can't believe I'm antelope hunting instead of mule deer hunting in WY this year 🤦‍♂️  :chuckle:

Don't feel right does it?? LOL
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: RallyDawg on May 18, 2021, 09:48:34 AM
I am also considering 73 as a first choice since it has a little better access.  Looking at all that numbers, 72 and 73 seem like very similar units.  73 has a little better access given there is more county roads in the unit but there is 1200 tags compared to the 700 tags for 72 which has fewer public roads for access.  With those who have been in these units would you consider it a coin toss between the two? 
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Karl Blanchard on May 18, 2021, 10:46:27 AM
Personally if I was ok with going special with 5pts I'd be looking at some better units. 77, 78, 79, or 80. Less hunters, more dirt, better trophy potential  :twocents:
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Bob33 on May 18, 2021, 11:52:57 AM
I am also considering 73 as a first choice since it has a little better access.  Looking at all that numbers, 72 and 73 seem like very similar units.  73 has a little better access given there is more county roads in the unit but there is 1200 tags compared to the 700 tags for 72 which has fewer public roads for access.  With those who have been in these units would you consider it a coin toss between the two?
Between the two I would choose 73 over 72. There is more public and walk-in access.
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: RallyDawg on May 18, 2021, 01:17:17 PM
Thanks.  I was looking at 77-80 as well early on but our trip has use in the Casper area from the Sept. 14th-20th.  `Since I am introducing the boys to big game I would be happy with an average size buck.
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Bob33 on May 18, 2021, 01:23:14 PM
Thanks.  I was looking at 77-80 as well early on but our trip has use in the Casper area from the Sept. 14th-20th.  `Since I am introducing the boys to big game I would be happy with an average size buck.
I think you will have a lot of fun if you hunt 73. I've killed some nice bucks in it. Good luck.
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: actionshooter on May 19, 2021, 09:21:45 PM
 After way too many hours on Gohunt, I have decided to do 73 also. I'm locked into the last week of September and this is the best looking option in that range.   The questions is should we do the special or roll the dice? I have 7 points and my partner has 6.
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Karl Blanchard on May 19, 2021, 09:38:06 PM
Id probably be considering special after the world reads about 73 on this forum  :chuckle: first rule of fight club is never talk about fight club  :chuckle:
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: actionshooter on May 19, 2021, 09:52:37 PM
Id probably be considering special after the world reads about 73 on this forum  :chuckle: first rule of fight club is never talk about fight club  :chuckle:

Ya, kinda was thinking that as I was writing, but all the "secret" has been worn off this one..    :chuckle:
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Karl Blanchard on May 20, 2021, 08:09:01 AM
Well now it is haha. But seriously, 73 got tags cut plus increased participation in all draws across the west.  Id be building in some serious cushion i.e. special or undershoot on points by 2 if my vacation is already on the calendar  :twocents:
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Bob33 on May 20, 2021, 08:26:19 AM
Unit 73 got quite popular about six or seven years ago when Eastman wrote about it. Before that it was possible to draw just about every year with a Special application and every other year with a standard application. Leftover doe/fawn licenses were also available every year. Times have changed.
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Limhangerslayer on May 20, 2021, 06:38:26 PM
There are better units that take less points imho.
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: vandeman17 on May 21, 2021, 01:26:45 PM
I have been looking at 78 and 79 since we struck out on elk. Both seem like they could be a fun hunt and not too terrible of a drive.
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Pathfinder101 on May 21, 2021, 03:28:53 PM
There are better units that take less points imho.

Hmmm.... That's what I say whenever someone brings up a unit that I want to put in for...  :chuckle:
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Limhangerslayer on May 21, 2021, 04:35:29 PM
There are better units that take less points imho.

Hmmm.... That's what I say whenever someone brings up a unit that I want to put in for...  :chuckle:
:chuckle: 
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: WAcoueshunter on May 21, 2021, 07:07:02 PM
There are better units that take less points imho.

Hmmm.... That's what I say whenever someone brings up a unit that I want to put in for...  :chuckle:
:chuckle:

I hear the Eastmans guys try to downplay all the 80 goats in the 70s units to keep them for themselves and their app clients. Ever notice how much they say they like the red desert units?  Who knows, could just be rumors on the street  :dunno: 
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: RallyDawg on June 18, 2021, 11:06:56 AM
I drew for 73.  Put in for doe tags in some surrounding areas too but were unsuccessful.  Should be a great experience for the boys. 

I have compact Outdoorsman tripod that I use for backpack trips but was thinking of getting a taller tripod for my spotter since its wide open and a lot of scouting will be close to the truck.  I think a taller tripod would be better since its largely flat/rolling county compared to a compact one.  Curious how many of you guys run a tall tripod?   
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Stein on June 18, 2021, 11:36:55 AM
I usually sit and glass or glass on a side window tripod, not to hard to get above the sagebrush.  I never bought a stand up tripod because I just don't think I would get much use out of it.  I also don't really care to split hairs on 1/2" of horn on an antelope, if you are looking to maximize the buck it may make some sense.
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: WAcoueshunter on June 18, 2021, 03:56:47 PM
I like the tall tripod for antelope since youre glassing from the truck so much.  I took my medium Outdoorsman last time I hunted speed goats in WY, but quickly switched back to my tall Alta tripod so I could stand.
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 18, 2021, 04:21:54 PM
If I am running around roads glassing trying to locate goats then I run a full size.

I also carry a smaller tri pod that I toss in my pack when I go on foot .
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Bob33 on June 18, 2021, 04:36:35 PM
If I'm on a road most of my scoping is done from a window mount. One thing to consider in Wyoming is wind. Even in a vehicle the wind can move you around; on a tall tripod you might have difficulty getting a steady image in high winds. While walking I take a Bogpod to steady my optics and to shoot from if necessary.
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Widgeondeke on June 18, 2021, 04:59:17 PM
Congrats on drawing the tag.  Look forward to the story this fall.
Title: Re: WY Antelope Cash In
Post by: Wingin it on June 18, 2021, 05:55:13 PM
Congrats on the tag! It should be a great hunt and experience for your boys. Im looking forward to hearing the story and hearing about the boys big adventure. Dont forget to fill us in on the details this fall. Good luck 👍
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