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Title: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: slowhand on June 10, 2021, 03:15:53 PM
So My Rookie hunting partner got lucky and drew the 2nd deer tag for this area. (Doe tag)
If anyone could point me in the direction of roads or a good starting point, It would be much appreciated.
I have never been there before. We mostly hunt for blacktail Near the town of Morton and also Mule deer up around Cle Elum. I have never hunted whitetails before. seen a few while hunting turkey near colville.
He's a new hunter and has yet to harvest a deer. needless to say he's pretty excited.
Feel free to look at my other posts to verify that I am a contributer to the forum.
I plan to use this thread to build the story of how this all turns out.
Thanks in advance to all that help.
If you would like to PM instead I totally understand.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: slowhand on June 11, 2021, 07:11:39 AM
Anyone?  :hello:
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: bhawley76 on June 11, 2021, 07:22:09 AM
That should be a quick tag to fill. :tup:
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: bustedoldman on June 11, 2021, 08:10:52 AM
That should be a quick tag to fill. :tup:

This exactly....Just find some state land on ONX/Basemaps and go knock one down. Whitetails are extremely sketchy and cracked out so they ran far and fast......
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: The bow hunting photog on June 11, 2021, 09:37:26 AM
Great unit it’s my home unit there’s deer everywhere just about every road on state land has deer on it if you just want to drive roads
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: lastmk8 on June 11, 2021, 09:53:03 AM
So how many points did your rookie hunting partner have to draw this tag?  My buddy had nine points for it and still didn't draw the tag.  Regarding where to go?  Plenty of whitetail does around, but in the hills you will find them and Muley's in the same areas, not together so much, but crossing the same areas.  Tell your buddy that Muley will stand and stare for long periods of time, that whitetail will head for the hills in a split second.  Make darn sure you have a whitetail in the cross hairs not the muley.  Also plenty of National forest land in that GMU.  If looking for that whitetail tag I would look for huntable land that isn't to far off from some of the farming fields, they sure like to head down for chow at night then back to the woods for the day.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: jason stevens on June 11, 2021, 10:33:11 AM
Look up the state land by lightning creek. Lots of luck in that area. Also around lake Bonaparte.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: Mossyoak on June 11, 2021, 10:39:29 AM
Shouldn’t have an issue filling the tag around Bonaparte
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: The bow hunting photog on June 11, 2021, 06:27:51 PM
I would also suggest Aeneas valley area lots of deer but also can be a sea of orange in October
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: jason stevens on June 11, 2021, 07:40:16 PM
So how many points did your rookie hunting partner have to draw this tag?  My buddy had nine points for it and still didn't draw the tag.  Regarding where to go?  Plenty of whitetail does around, but in the hills you will find them and Muley's in the same areas, not together so much, but crossing the same areas.  Tell your buddy that Muley will stand and stare for long periods of time, that whitetail will head for the hills in a split second.  Make darn sure you have a whitetail in the cross hairs not the muley.  Also plenty of National forest land in that GMU.  If looking for that whitetail tag I would look for huntable land that isn't to far off from some of the farming fields, they sure like to head down for chow at night then back to the woods for the day.


We have all whitetail s at 4700 feet on camera this year.its wierd.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: Bogie85 on June 11, 2021, 08:49:19 PM
So how many points did your rookie hunting partner have to draw this tag?  My buddy had nine points for it and still didn't draw the tag.  Regarding where to go?  Plenty of whitetail does around, but in the hills you will find them and Muley's in the same areas, not together so much, but crossing the same areas.  Tell your buddy that Muley will stand and stare for long periods of time, that whitetail will head for the hills in a split second.  Make darn sure you have a whitetail in the cross hairs not the muley.  Also plenty of National forest land in that GMU.  If looking for that whitetail tag I would look for huntable land that isn't to far off from some of the farming fields, they sure like to head down for chow at night then back to the woods for the day.

I am sorry your buddy didn’t get it, I wish I knew how this system works. It doesn’t make a lot of sense sometimes. I am the rookie hunter that got lucky, and to answer your questions had 3 points.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: ctwiggs1 on June 11, 2021, 11:16:28 PM
Luck of the draw!! Congrats to you on drawing the tag and good luck!
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: Bogie85 on June 12, 2021, 11:16:47 AM
Luck of the draw!! Congrats to you on drawing the tag and good luck!

Thanks! Hopefully I can finally put some deer meat in the freezer.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: Dan-o on June 12, 2021, 11:39:14 AM
It should be a good hunt.

You got good advice.

Gongrats to your friend on the draw.     :tup:
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: greenhead_killer on June 12, 2021, 01:24:43 PM
Just find public land in the areas mentioned and you’ll be fine.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: Bogie85 on June 12, 2021, 01:55:35 PM
It should be a good hunt.

You got good advice.

Gongrats to your friend on the draw.     :tup:

Thank you! I am stoked I didn’t expect to draw anything for a long time.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: greenhead_killer on June 12, 2021, 02:40:47 PM
The beauty and the curse of this state. Could draw with one point or go to the grave with 30. Good luck
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: westside bull on June 12, 2021, 02:58:50 PM
Good luck on your hunt it should be fun. At this point with Washington's draw system it doesn't matter how many pts you have if it's your time to draw it's your time. I know someone who has drawn back to back quality buck tags so you never know what you will draw.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: Bogie85 on June 12, 2021, 08:19:12 PM
The beauty and the curse of this state. Could draw with one point or go to the grave with 30. Good luck

I will take my wins where I can get them lol.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: Bogie85 on June 12, 2021, 08:20:21 PM
Good luck on your hunt it should be fun. At this point with Washington's draw system it doesn't matter how many pts you have if it's your time to draw it's your time. I know someone who has drawn back to back quality buck tags so you never know what you will draw.

That’s really interesting I guess random is random.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: slowhand on June 14, 2021, 09:13:35 AM
Thanks for the positive responses and The PM helpers too.
As I stated earlier We will definitely keep the updates coming, as We scout, hunt and hopefully find success.
I know it's only a doe tag but the first Deer is always memorable and special.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: Birdguy on June 14, 2021, 08:14:35 PM
I have drawn this tag twice (have not put in for it in 7 or 8 years) my son drew it twice as  a youth and daughter drew it once also. Public ground is plentiful and it holds plenty of deer. You are in for a great hunt that should result in meat! It is a hunt and there are always variables. We have property in 204 and one year my son drew the second rifle tag (sept 8 to Oct 9) and youth whitetail doe (regular season) and we gave it heck! We had cougars in the area that year, we drove over there every weekend in Sept and Oct and he shot a doe the very last weekend (only doe we saw long enough for him to get on). I tease him still that 90 pound doe cost me $10 a pound!!! But so worth it! Congrats on the draw and have a  hunt  :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: Bogie85 on June 16, 2021, 01:19:27 AM
I have drawn this tag twice (have not put in for it in 7 or 8 years) my son drew it twice as  a youth and daughter drew it once also. Public ground is plentiful and it holds plenty of deer. You are in for a great hunt that should result in meat! It is a hunt and there are always variables. We have property in 204 and one year my son drew the second rifle tag (sept 8 to Oct 9) and youth whitetail doe (regular season) and we gave it heck! We had cougars in the area that year, we drove over there every weekend in Sept and Oct and he shot a doe the very last weekend (only doe we saw long enough for him to get on). I tease him still that 90 pound doe cost me $10 a pound!!! But so worth it! Congrats on the draw and have a  hunt  :IBCOOL:

I feel that all too well lol, this being my 5th year of hunting. I finally got Turkey, my wife gave me hell and goes “those are the most expensive damn turkeys we have ever bought”. But I would do it all over again, that feeling when I didn’t want to get up that last day to hunt. And then I doubled up, made everything worth it. Hoping this is my year to finally get a deer. And in case we see a cougar or a bear I have my tags for those too :). I look forward to being able to share my knowledge and failures with my son one day. He’s only 7 but keeps begging me to go hunting, but he’s just a wee bit too loud lol.

Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: Birdguy on June 16, 2021, 08:46:34 AM
I have drawn this tag twice (have not put in for it in 7 or 8 years) my son drew it twice as  a youth and daughter drew it once also. Public ground is plentiful and it holds plenty of deer. You are in for a great hunt that should result in meat! It is a hunt and there are always variables. We have property in 204 and one year my son drew the second rifle tag (sept 8 to Oct 9) and youth whitetail doe (regular season) and we gave it heck! We had cougars in the area that year, we drove over there every weekend in Sept and Oct and he shot a doe the very last weekend (only doe we saw long enough for him to get on). I tease him still that 90 pound doe cost me $10 a pound!!! But so worth it! Congrats on the draw and have a  hunt  :IBCOOL:

NOBODY hunts for the $$ savings!! Lol!
Yes, get your boy out there as soon as you think you have the patients to deal with HIM! As soon as you take a kid it is all about them, try to remember that and you will both be happier. My son took hunters ed at 7 and we started him on youth permits. He had three tags before he filled one but he set the dynamics for the hunts. He had opportunities but I always told both kids to never rush the shot, if it was the right shot the trigger would just go off. It was tough the first two deer that he saw but could not get set up on but he understood. That first deer each of the kids got will always be way more important to me than any of mine. I only carry a gun now because you never know when you're going to have a shot. Otherwise the kids can take all the deer as far as I am concerned. Just pay attention to your son and when you think he is ready start the process! It is AWESOME!

I feel that all too well lol, this being my 5th year of hunting. I finally got Turkey, my wife gave me hell and goes “those are the most expensive damn turkeys we have ever bought”. But I would do it all over again, that feeling when I didn’t want to get up that last day to hunt. And then I doubled up, made everything worth it. Hoping this is my year to finally get a deer. And in case we see a cougar or a bear I have my tags for those too :). I look forward to being able to share my knowledge and failures with my son one day. He’s only 7 but keeps begging me to go hunting, but he’s just a wee bit too loud lol.


Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: Tonasket2021 on July 14, 2021, 08:27:46 PM
If you get the OnX app check out Walker Creek just east of Bonaparte or Spur Mt Rd by lost Lake. these are all National Forest Land.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: slowhand on July 15, 2021, 07:36:01 PM
If you get the OnX app check out Walker Creek just east of Bonaparte or Spur Mt Rd by lost Lake. these are all National Forest Land.
Thank you… we are getting close to our first scouting trip/ bear hunt.
My hunting partner and I plan on spending the first weekend in august getting a look at the land while keeping an eye out for the potential bear 🤞🏻
We will add this to our location list
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: ldjbuff on August 17, 2021, 01:17:53 PM
A lot of the areas you were told to go are on fire. I would check some maps and see what is still open. The big fire in that area will not be contained until mid September. All the miles and miles of logging roads people hunted for years will have no trees/bushes on them.

It is horrible. We were notified this morning that many cabins were destroyed in the area near our personal cabin.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: slowhand on August 17, 2021, 01:40:09 PM
A lot of the areas you were told to go are on fire. I would check some maps and see what is still open. The big fire in that area will not be contained until mid September. All the miles and miles of logging roads people hunted for years will have no trees/bushes on them.

It is horrible. We were notified this morning that many cabins were destroyed in the area near our personal cabin.
Thank You for the information. This fire has changed the plan dramaticly. We have had zero scout time other than onX. Been spending all our free time looking for bears on the west side. Hopefully we can still find a Doe in there (204) somewhere. Its a big GMU, We sure plan to give it our best. Maybe the whitetail deer will be concentrated in the areas outside of the fire zone?
I hope You cabin makes it
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: 81husky on August 17, 2021, 04:44:43 PM
Another closure. https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/fseprd944970.pdf

I doubt this will last into hunting season, but we could sure use a rain storm or two.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: papaonthemountain on August 17, 2021, 06:00:07 PM
Slowhand, if your heart is set on hunting the reaches of Bonaparte, then you will have to modify your plans a bit.  As already reported, the picture is grim for the most part.  The east side of the mountain from Lost Lake to Bonaparte Lake to Wauconda is pretty much toast.  On the west side, where I live, the fire has come over the top and burned down roughly 1/2 of the way to the head of Siwash Creek and Fourth of July pass. 

Now for some good news... the local logging crew boys are busy putting in fire breaks along the Lost Lake Road to Havillah and Mill Creek Road, which, knock on wood, should stop it from getting down to private property.  There has been lots of air support the last two days and the weather has taken a turn for the better.

Couple of ifs... if the fire gets stopped and if the FS opens their roads, there will still be a fair amount of FS ground to tromp around on that holds whitetails.

Finally if all goes south for you and your buddy, give me a call.  I can help with direction or access to my ranch.

Dale
(509) 485-1910
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: Jingles on August 17, 2021, 06:17:02 PM
If you look you will see a lot of these fires do not have an end date until the end of Oct gonna be either tough to find a public land hunting area or it is gonna be so crowded with hunters no deer will stand a chance and might be a few non game animals (2 legged) shot, sure glad I went archery this year. If you do go out general season PLEASE be damn careful.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: dutchmanaz on August 17, 2021, 06:28:02 PM
This won't be popular at all, but if the herds are stressed so badly from lack of browse and cover, I would choose not to hunt in those areas.  They will struggle to survive without the added pressure from hunters. 
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: greenhead_killer on August 17, 2021, 07:03:22 PM
its a big unit, even with part of it on fire. youll be fine when season rolls around. honestly you probably wont have to get out of your truck if you put enough miles on the roads.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: 81husky on August 17, 2021, 07:14:38 PM
If the National forest is closed, what roads are you suggesting they hunt from? I don't take kindly to people shooting deer in my field.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: greenhead_killer on August 17, 2021, 07:34:13 PM
im not suggesting shooting out of peoples private property. theres roughly 230k acres of nf in that unit, if they close the nf, might be sol this year, hopefully not the case but never know what these fires will do.  if they dont, he will have lots of options if he gets out and puts some miles on
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: 81husky on August 17, 2021, 08:04:16 PM
I shouldn't have inferred that you were suggesting that. It does get old having people drive by at 2 MPH looking for deer. Gotta wonder if they see one, what are they going to do?
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: greenhead_killer on August 17, 2021, 08:28:45 PM
Totally understand. Our place is about 10 miles from you.  I caught the neighbor poaching, I mean recovering a deer on our place last year. Always a nice way to meet new people
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: greenhead_killer on August 18, 2021, 05:59:31 AM
I think if the op stays in the south end of the unit, he should be just fine.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: slowhand on August 18, 2021, 09:43:19 AM
Slowhand, if your heart is set on hunting the reaches of Bonaparte, then you will have to modify your plans a bit.  As already reported, the picture is grim for the most part.  The east side of the mountain from Lost Lake to Bonaparte Lake to Wauconda is pretty much toast.  On the west side, where I live, the fire has come over the top and burned down roughly 1/2 of the way to the head of Siwash Creek and Fourth of July pass. 

Now for some good news... the local logging crew boys are busy putting in fire breaks along the Lost Lake Road to Havillah and Mill Creek Road, which, knock on wood, should stop it from getting down to private property.  There has been lots of air support the last two days and the weather has taken a turn for the better.

Couple of ifs... if the fire gets stopped and if the FS opens their roads, there will still be a fair amount of FS ground to tromp around on that holds whitetails.

Finally if all goes south for you and your buddy, give me a call.  I can help with direction or access to my ranch.

Dale
(509) 485-1910
Saving your number as our backup plan, thank you so much. This forum is full of so many kind people.
Please stay safe up there and god bless you.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: Bogie85 on August 18, 2021, 10:30:43 AM
If the National forest is closed, what roads are you suggesting they hunt from? I don't take kindly to people shooting deer in my field.

I would never take an animal on private property unless I had permission prior. I might look at them just to admire but I have on x for a reason.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: slowhand on August 18, 2021, 11:38:58 AM
If the National forest is closed, what roads are you suggesting they hunt from? I don't take kindly to people shooting deer in my field.

I would never take an animal on private property unless I had permission prior. I might look at them just to admire but I have on x for a reason.
I wouldn't believe him... This guy looks shady to me. See that Turkey.. I wasn't there when He got it. Could have been on private land?  :chuckle:
Just kidding around.. We will fill that doe tag Zack don't You worry. "best season ever" got to stay possative no matter what.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: huntnfmly on August 18, 2021, 11:47:00 AM
I shouldn't have inferred that you were suggesting that. It does get old having people drive by at 2 MPH looking for deer. Gotta wonder if they see one, what are they going to do?
Or maybe they are just looking at deer
Nothing wrong with driving around looking at deer
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: 81husky on August 18, 2021, 02:27:34 PM

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Nope, nothing wrong at all. I do it all the time. I don't do it during hunting season with 3 other guys all dressed in orange though.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: bhawley76 on August 18, 2021, 03:00:14 PM
If the National forest is closed, what roads are you suggesting they hunt from? I don't take kindly to people shooting deer in my field.
You own the rest of 204 that's not National forest?
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: greenhead_killer on August 18, 2021, 03:50:50 PM
That unit is either private or nf, so he’s not wrong in asking that. Few tiny chunks of state with even smaller sections of blm. He doesn’t own the rest of 204, but lots of others do. I know where he’s at and shooting out of peoples yard is not uncommon. It gets old dealing with that sort of people.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: jason stevens on August 18, 2021, 04:59:11 PM
Plenty of ground to hunt thats not private. Fires will be out by modern season enjoy your hunt.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: sagerat on August 18, 2021, 09:13:01 PM
 :yeah:  This thread makes me want to slow cruise 81huskys field just for the fun of it.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: slowhand on August 18, 2021, 11:03:40 PM
:yeah:  This thread makes me want to slow cruise 81huskys field just for the fun of it.
Haha, that’s messed up. But funny 😆
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: slowhand on August 18, 2021, 11:05:07 PM
Plenty of ground to hunt thats not private. Fires will be out by modern season enjoy your hunt.
Thank you
Definitely intend to show/ tell you all how it goes.
Thanks again to all the help and positive info
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: hal on August 23, 2021, 10:43:00 AM
204 shrinking by the hour. Won't be much left of Bonepart after the Walker Creek fire. You will need to find some un-burnt national forest. we are on PRR but all is private. We hunt our own property. You have to be careful in some of the 204. That is where the grouse hunter was killed about 6 years ago. The father and son involved are doing 33 for 1st degree murder. Plenty of people hiding out in the area.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: SkookumHntr on August 23, 2021, 10:53:29 AM
204 shrinking by the hour. Won't be much left of Bonepart after the Walker Creek fire. You will need to find some un-burnt national forest. we are on PRR but all is private. We hunt our own property. You have to be careful in some of the 204. That is where the grouse hunter was killed about 6 years ago. The father and son involved are doing 33 for 1st degree murder. Plenty of people hiding out in the area.
that was 2012 on Pontiac ridge. My buddy told me to stay away from that area when I was hunting up there that year. Glad I listened, some crazy people out there..
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: bearhunter99 on August 23, 2021, 12:13:15 PM
Any update on the fires from the weekend?  Are the temps helping slow it down?  Any of the rain last weekend hit up there?  My wife drew the late buck tag up there this year after about 20 years of applying....  Haven't had time to get up there at all this summer, just hoping for the best!
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: papaonthemountain on August 23, 2021, 01:55:15 PM
We did get a couple doses of rain with cooler weather to go along with it which severally knocked it back.  We can see the west side of Bonaparte from our house and as of right now there is only two small smoke columns.  A huge difference from two days ago.  Before it rained there were 5 Fire Boss planes dumping water on it.

Our nephew, who is logging out fire breaks, said they had the fire boxed in as of yesterday.  Optimistically speaking.... I think the worst is behind.

There is still plenty of unburned acres along the west reaches along with all of Phebe and Burge mountains to round up one of those wily whitetails.

Good hunting to all,
Dale
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: ldjbuff on August 23, 2021, 02:29:53 PM
The fire seems to be moving away from the resort. Out near Wauconda the fire is still burning cabins, cars and out buildings. Our cabin was saved luckily but the other 4 cabins near us were a total loss. The area looks so bad from the pictures.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: hal on August 30, 2021, 10:05:26 AM
The area has changed a little since we bought in '08. Still a few slugs hiding out. The family that had the hunter killed still has their camp at PRR and Prior Loop rd. Nice people. The two who killed the hunter were squatters at PRR and Cow Camp rd. The south end of PRR has a sign that states that all road frontage is private but we still get road hunters whom seem to be proud of how they hunt. Chased a couple of Beaver Lake campers out several years ago. Plenty of Chesaw road access to National forest but steep entry.
Title: Re: 204 Okanogan East, Help request
Post by: Skyvalhunter on August 30, 2021, 10:29:34 AM
There was a time when I would have dumped a load of points in there to get the special permit. There was some really nice WT taken there. But it really has fallen off.
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