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Title: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: predatorG on July 21, 2021, 03:24:16 PM
I killed one a couple years ago during early archery elk. It had an unseasonably large amount of fat on him. I probably wonít be in state enough to hunt them this year, but the question of rendering fat has always been in my mind. I see lots of people talk about it on here. Is it really worth it? I think Iíve mixed some bear in with deer sausages, but have never rendered the fat just for the sake of having it. Pros? Cons? Iíd love to know.
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: Special T on July 21, 2021, 03:27:41 PM
I killed one a couple years ago during early archery elk. It had an unseasonably large amount of fat on him. I probably wonít be in state enough to hunt them this year, but the question of rendering fat has always been in my mind. I see lots of people talk about it on here. Is it really worth it? I think Iíve mixed some bear in with deer sausages, but have never rendered the fat just for the sake of having it. Pros? Cons? Iíd love to know.

My wife has made soaps out of it. Lots of folks use it in baking. If you going to use it as a leader conditioner then yes as well.
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: Katmai Guy on July 21, 2021, 03:28:30 PM
Grandma thought so, made the best chocolate chip cookies I've ever had!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: jrebel on July 21, 2021, 03:37:27 PM
Yes 100%!!   

It is great for cooking, baking and leather conditioning.   I havenít used it for anything else but it is a huge hit in my house.   
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 21, 2021, 04:05:05 PM
Crime not to!
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: MtnMuley on July 21, 2021, 04:17:00 PM
I'd rather have 5 lbs of rendered bear fat than 5 lbs of bear tenderloin/backstraps. Best pie/pastry crusts bar none. Leftovers can be rubbed into boot leather.
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: Farmer72 on July 21, 2021, 04:24:18 PM
We used it to waterproof leather boot. And it worked good on my bicycle chain.
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: huntnnw on July 21, 2021, 04:42:27 PM
100% up to you. If you have a use for it then yes. If you have no use then no
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: Okanagan on July 21, 2021, 07:07:12 PM
A French chef told my mother that bear fat is the finest pastry shortening in the world.  We use it in every pie crust.  People always ask how we get such light flaky pie crust.  Rendered pure bear lard is a major factor, though I add in some butter for its flavor.

Bear meat runs the widest gamut of excellent to bad flavor of any animal Iíve eaten enough times to base my opinion on a sample of many animals.  I will pass on bear meat rather than play Russian roulette flavors.  Most bear is good.   
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: predatorG on July 22, 2021, 05:20:53 AM
A French chef told my mother that bear fat is the finest pastry shortening in the world.  We use it in every pie crust.  People always ask how we get such light flaky pie crust.  Rendered pure bear lard is a major factor, though I add in some butter for its flavor.

Bear meat runs the widest gamut of excellent to bad flavor of any animal Iíve eaten enough times to base my opinion on a sample of many animals.  I will pass on bear meat rather than play Russian roulette flavors.  Most bear is good.

Luckily none of our bears feed on salmon. Sweet meat like huckleberries  :drool:
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: hunter399 on July 22, 2021, 05:41:31 AM
A French chef told my mother that bear fat is the finest pastry shortening in the world.  We use it in every pie crust.  People always ask how we get such light flaky pie crust.  Rendered pure bear lard is a major factor, though I add in some butter for its flavor.

Bear meat runs the widest gamut of excellent to bad flavor of any animal Iíve eaten enough times to base my opinion on a sample of many animals.  I will pass on bear meat rather than play Russian roulette flavors.  Most bear is good.

Luckily none of our bears feed on salmon. Sweet meat like huckleberries  :drool:
I was once told that some of the natives will park at the trash dump at night and shot bears.(on the reservation).
I bet those are some tasty ones.
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 22, 2021, 06:17:27 AM
While the flavor of meat does vary quite a bit, I've found the flavor to not be a gamble. It's extremely predictable based one where they are :dunno:
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: hunter399 on July 22, 2021, 06:25:26 AM
MMMMMMMM.........
Trash bear fat extra greasy ,just perfect.
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 22, 2021, 06:34:24 AM
Exactly, shooting a trash bear is extremely predictable to taste like trash.
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: hunter399 on July 22, 2021, 06:36:30 AM
Exactly, shooting a trash bear is extremely predictable to taste like trash.
That's what a native friend told me years ago. He was offering for me to come try it out. I respectfully declined.
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: trophyhunt on July 22, 2021, 06:44:40 AM
My spring bears have always been good, fall bears with berries all over, excellent.  Never did the fat thing though, guess I'll look into it.  But no way was I packing any extra weight out of the back country last year, think I had a slight heart attack packing that guy out alone.
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: predatorG on July 22, 2021, 07:19:25 AM
My spring bears have always been good, fall bears with berries all over, excellent.  Never did the fat thing though, guess I'll look into it.  But no way was I packing any extra weight out of the back country last year, think I had a slight heart attack packing that guy out alone.

That definitely played a factor into my bear, nothing like shooting an animal deep down in a wet side hole to remind you why weights important. My brother and my dad each got one over the last couple years after I moved out... right behind our house. Unfair!
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: trophyhunt on July 22, 2021, 08:50:31 AM
Well, looks easy to render, just put in a crock pot on low and then strain out the fat chunks.  You guys eat the fat chunks? Wonder if theyíd be good deep fried?
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: bustedoldman on July 22, 2021, 09:32:50 AM
Well, looks easy to render, just put in a crock pot on low and then strain out the fat chunks.  You guys eat the fat chunks? Wonder if theyíd be good deep fried?

Bear cracklins are good....

https://hunttoeat.com/wild-food/recipes/rendered-bear-fat-cracklings/
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: 7t9cobra on July 22, 2021, 01:41:59 PM
I saved as much fat from my spring bear as possible (obviously I didn't get a whole lot) I rendered it down using a pot on the stove and I was surprised how easy it was and how nice it turned out. We've been cooking with it and my wife uses it on everything now. It's definitely worth doing. I will be rendering every piece of bear fat I can get from now on.
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: Twispriver on July 22, 2021, 03:03:44 PM
It's not worth it to me because we wouldn't use it but I've given a bunch of it away to people that do. 
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: C-Money on July 23, 2021, 11:31:41 AM
A friend got a bear years ago. I rubbed some raw bear fat into my everyday boots and they stayed soft and comfy for quite a long time.
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: jrebel on July 23, 2021, 11:57:48 AM
If anyone on the fence wants to try some bear fatÖ.I will give you some.  I have some half pints frozen from last years bear that I will give away to people that want to try it.   We will be making more this year with our bears so I will have plenty. 

Clearly I will not ship and it has to be a face to face pick up.  Let me know.
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: trophyhunt on July 23, 2021, 12:07:31 PM
If anyone on the fence wants to try some bear fatÖ.I will give you some.  I have some half pints frozen from last years bear that I will give away to people that want to try it.   We will be making more this year with our bears so I will have plenty. 

Clearly I will not ship and it has to be a face to face pick up.  Let me know.
so do you rub the rendered fat on leather or the raw fat?
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: jrebel on July 23, 2021, 12:14:39 PM
If anyone on the fence wants to try some bear fatÖ.I will give you some.  I have some half pints frozen from last years bear that I will give away to people that want to try it.   We will be making more this year with our bears so I will have plenty. 

Clearly I will not ship and it has to be a face to face pick up.  Let me know.
so do you rub the rendered fat on leather or the raw fat?

Rendered so it does not stink like raw bear fat.  Also we cook with it a lot.   Come pick some up when your buying that rifle. 
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: trophyhunt on July 23, 2021, 12:15:58 PM
If anyone on the fence wants to try some bear fatÖ.I will give you some.  I have some half pints frozen from last years bear that I will give away to people that want to try it.   We will be making more this year with our bears so I will have plenty. 

Clearly I will not ship and it has to be a face to face pick up.  Let me know.
so do you rub the rendered fat on leather or the raw fat?

Rendered so it does not stink like raw bear fat.  Also we cook with it a lot.   Come pick some up when your buying that rifle.
That is still for sale???  Wow, I would have thought someone would have jumped on that by now!!  These guys on here are so damn picky.
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: jrebel on July 23, 2021, 12:18:57 PM
If anyone on the fence wants to try some bear fatÖ.I will give you some.  I have some half pints frozen from last years bear that I will give away to people that want to try it.   We will be making more this year with our bears so I will have plenty. 

Clearly I will not ship and it has to be a face to face pick up.  Let me know.
so do you rub the rendered fat on leather or the raw fat?

Rendered so it does not stink like raw bear fat.  Also we cook with it a lot.   Come pick some up when your buying that rifle.
That is still for sale???  Wow, I would have thought someone would have jumped on that by now!!  These guys on here are so damn picky.

Yeah not a lot of interest at this point.  Even offered up powder and bullets so someone could be loading ASAP. 
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: dilleytech on July 23, 2021, 01:43:20 PM
Yes itís absolutely worth rendering. I donít waste a ounce of fat in any of my bears. Itís a very high quality oil that is a good healthy high burning temp replacement for vegetable oil.
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: dilleytech on July 23, 2021, 01:49:28 PM
I have been sampling a lot of bear in recent years and the only thing I like about shooting big bears is the fat. Small bears  are much better eating but they donít have the same fat layer.
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: logola512c on July 23, 2021, 04:07:46 PM
A French chef told my mother that bear fat is the finest pastry shortening in the world.  We use it in every pie crust.  People always ask how we get such light flaky pie crust.  Rendered pure bear lard is a major factor, though I add in some butter for its flavor.

Bear meat runs the widest gamut of excellent to bad flavor of any animal Iíve eaten enough times to base my opinion on a sample of many animals.  I will pass on bear meat rather than play Russian roulette flavors.  Most bear is good.

I got about 1.5 gallons of rendered bear fat from a big bear I shot last fall and it was really good for baking and just all around cooking use.  I especially enjoyed the flavor it added to muffins of all sorts.  I should add that I only harvest the berry-eating bears in the mountains, and they have all tasted good.  I am also really diligent about getting the meat cooled quickly and making sure there isn't any hair in it.
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: Seabass on July 24, 2021, 03:20:33 PM
Just recently learned that, at one point in our history, bear fat was so valuable it was used as currency and even had its own measurement for trade.
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: WoodHacker on July 29, 2021, 05:44:20 PM
I would not let any of the fat go to waste. This one gave me 46 pints from about 50# of fat.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVtvQHUIhZOLQNv-JvhYIGWfTtB-eiP-6ej8GYGIr8ruPAgjWuryTR6Slu6qupkiFrxhJ3tXCLP4spBTpNckePhJ1ypiFsu5Jy45fD7RtvRhddOc1b3c1QZf_iv4pwo5V4B7IvdX3WGmfyBdJYVZuJgdQ=s810-no?authuser=0)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUq74MYl5VMdIcnRezB6yMTxKsxbpE3z6v6gpClEXOGJ_Cilw86pPFWgwYMegh323ga7PpmZy-L0-O_Gj9qECbhMaSCc1yJeavV8pvkS7G3Q6IMKguFnkiJ9t1ra3C2sC9FVTmORj6GYCUHU-TdJ0f-Ug=s810-no?authuser=0)
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: hunter399 on July 29, 2021, 06:09:13 PM
I would not let any of the fat go to waste. This one gave me 46 pints from about 50# of fat.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVtvQHUIhZOLQNv-JvhYIGWfTtB-eiP-6ej8GYGIr8ruPAgjWuryTR6Slu6qupkiFrxhJ3tXCLP4spBTpNckePhJ1ypiFsu5Jy45fD7RtvRhddOc1b3c1QZf_iv4pwo5V4B7IvdX3WGmfyBdJYVZuJgdQ=s810-no?authuser=0)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUq74MYl5VMdIcnRezB6yMTxKsxbpE3z6v6gpClEXOGJ_Cilw86pPFWgwYMegh323ga7PpmZy-L0-O_Gj9qECbhMaSCc1yJeavV8pvkS7G3Q6IMKguFnkiJ9t1ra3C2sC9FVTmORj6GYCUHU-TdJ0f-Ug=s810-no?authuser=0)
That is Alot of bear grease 😲
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: krolelov on July 30, 2021, 09:11:36 AM
I would not let any of the fat go to waste. This one gave me 46 pints from about 50# of fat.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVtvQHUIhZOLQNv-JvhYIGWfTtB-eiP-6ej8GYGIr8ruPAgjWuryTR6Slu6qupkiFrxhJ3tXCLP4spBTpNckePhJ1ypiFsu5Jy45fD7RtvRhddOc1b3c1QZf_iv4pwo5V4B7IvdX3WGmfyBdJYVZuJgdQ=s810-no?authuser=0)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUq74MYl5VMdIcnRezB6yMTxKsxbpE3z6v6gpClEXOGJ_Cilw86pPFWgwYMegh323ga7PpmZy-L0-O_Gj9qECbhMaSCc1yJeavV8pvkS7G3Q6IMKguFnkiJ9t1ra3C2sC9FVTmORj6GYCUHU-TdJ0f-Ug=s810-no?authuser=0)
This looks amazing!
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: logola512c on July 30, 2021, 09:54:04 AM
I would not let any of the fat go to waste. This one gave me 46 pints from about 50# of fat.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVtvQHUIhZOLQNv-JvhYIGWfTtB-eiP-6ej8GYGIr8ruPAgjWuryTR6Slu6qupkiFrxhJ3tXCLP4spBTpNckePhJ1ypiFsu5Jy45fD7RtvRhddOc1b3c1QZf_iv4pwo5V4B7IvdX3WGmfyBdJYVZuJgdQ=s810-no?authuser=0)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUq74MYl5VMdIcnRezB6yMTxKsxbpE3z6v6gpClEXOGJ_Cilw86pPFWgwYMegh323ga7PpmZy-L0-O_Gj9qECbhMaSCc1yJeavV8pvkS7G3Q6IMKguFnkiJ9t1ra3C2sC9FVTmORj6GYCUHU-TdJ0f-Ug=s810-no?authuser=0)

Did you can it with a pressure cooker to keep it from going bad? 
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: jrebel on July 30, 2021, 10:21:46 AM
I would not let any of the fat go to waste. This one gave me 46 pints from about 50# of fat.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVtvQHUIhZOLQNv-JvhYIGWfTtB-eiP-6ej8GYGIr8ruPAgjWuryTR6Slu6qupkiFrxhJ3tXCLP4spBTpNckePhJ1ypiFsu5Jy45fD7RtvRhddOc1b3c1QZf_iv4pwo5V4B7IvdX3WGmfyBdJYVZuJgdQ=s810-no?authuser=0)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUq74MYl5VMdIcnRezB6yMTxKsxbpE3z6v6gpClEXOGJ_Cilw86pPFWgwYMegh323ga7PpmZy-L0-O_Gj9qECbhMaSCc1yJeavV8pvkS7G3Q6IMKguFnkiJ9t1ra3C2sC9FVTmORj6GYCUHU-TdJ0f-Ug=s810-no?authuser=0)

Did you can it with a pressure cooker to keep it from going bad?

We freeze ours to keep it good.  Curious if canning is an option. 
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: logola512c on July 30, 2021, 10:48:52 AM
Do you freeze it in jars or vacuum sealed bags?  I saw jars in the original post and immediately thought canning since I always think of jars breaking in the freezer.  But maybe that's not true with rendered fat? 
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: NRA4LIFE on July 30, 2021, 10:51:32 AM
If you use real canning jars (not mayo or others) they will not break in the freezer.  I've frozen just about every imaginable substance in canning jars, including bear lard.

Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: jrebel on July 30, 2021, 11:00:11 AM
Yeah we use canning jars (1/2 pint) for our lard and they have not broken in our freezer.  Works great als last a very long time. 
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: dilleytech on July 30, 2021, 12:33:55 PM
Do you freeze it in jars or vacuum sealed bags?  I saw jars in the original post and immediately thought canning since I always think of jars breaking in the freezer.  But maybe that's not true with rendered fat?

Jars break due to the expansion of water when it freezes. Oil doesnít expand at all. It will actually create a seal when the oil cools. I have frozen hundreds of jars with bear oil and haven't had any break. Every now and then I try freezing canned stock and get reminded why you donít do that without leaving the jar loose.

Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: logola512c on July 30, 2021, 12:45:49 PM
Do you freeze it in jars or vacuum sealed bags?  I saw jars in the original post and immediately thought canning since I always think of jars breaking in the freezer.  But maybe that's not true with rendered fat?

Jars break due to the expansion of water when it freezes. Oil doesnít expand at all. It will actually create a seal when the oil cools. I have frozen hundreds of jars with bear oil and haven't had any break. Every now and then I try freezing canned stock and get reminded why you donít do that without leaving the jar loose.

That's helpful.  I think I've tried it with bone broth in jars and ended up with broken jars.  Makes sense that rendered fat wouldn't expand the same.
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: krolelov on August 02, 2021, 10:53:00 AM
Clay Newcomb claims that bear grease may be stored at room temp for 1.5 years without spoiling. I keep mine in the freezer and I am happy with the results.
Title: Re: Is bear fat worth rendering?
Post by: logola512c on August 02, 2021, 04:39:11 PM
Clay Newcomb claims that bear grease may be stored at room temp for 1.5 years without spoiling. I keep mine in the freezer and I am happy with the results.

The last jar of mine started to go rancid in the refrigerator after about 6 months.  Maybe it was contaminated somehow -- started to turn black from the bottom of the jar in a part that hadn't been exposed to air?  But hard to believe that could be the case since it went straight from the slow simmer pot (through a cheesecloth screen) into a clean jar...
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