Post by: Jimmy33 on September 17, 2021, 08:42:29 AM
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Post by: Alex4200 on September 17, 2021, 10:00:35 AM
Some other thoughts. When hunting ducks I like a pump gun. They will work in any weather or other nasty condition. But I don’t like pumps while hunting uplands because they can tend to rattle when walking.
I like autos for chukar and quail. Not because of the extra shell. Because I have had many a late riser come up during reloading even if I only fired once.
When hunting wild pheasants (not released ones at WDFW sites) silence is probably the most important thing to keep in mind. From sloshing water bottles to rattling dog collars and guns that make unnecessary noise like racking a shell in. This is where I prefer o/u or sxs.
But whatever you chose, always remember #1. Gun fit is the most important.
Post by: salish on September 17, 2021, 10:10:48 AM
Post by: jrebel on September 17, 2021, 10:15:35 AM
I would end with saying, there is no wrong answer. Over time you will likely end up with both if you enjoy the sport. Happy Hunting.
Post by: BD1 on September 17, 2021, 10:17:14 AM
Have fun and shoot straight :tup:
Post by: rainshadow1 on September 17, 2021, 10:33:31 AM
That said, they make ugly O/U's too!
Go someplace with lots of options and handle a few. You have to decide.
My son has kinda claimed my pretty PRETTY beretta from me, but if he was going off into the canyons after chuckar, I'd overrule him and make him take his Youth 870... even though he's bigger than me now! Light, fast, and who cares if it clatters down a rockslide! It'll still shoot, it's an 870!
Post by: kselkhunter on September 17, 2021, 11:30:33 AM
Post by: RobinHoodlum on September 17, 2021, 12:25:45 PM
I mostly shoot autoloaders of which I shoot a Franchi and Benelli. But, I also have a few Ithaca Model 37 pumps that I love. All of these are fairly light and easy to carry all day.
As mentioned, you will slip, trip, and fall and bang up your gun chukar hunting, so consider this if your purchasing a new gun.
Post by: Smokepole on September 17, 2021, 01:10:43 PM
Not that I'm an expert but I use an 870 and I can't remember ever firing the third shot upland, and only a handful of times for ducks. If I were to buy a new shotgun I'd probably look over under.
Yup. I've hunted lots of upland birds with the 870. Too heavy and slow for Huns, chukars, and ruffed grouse. It's okay for blue grouse and pheasant imho. I used a Browning White Lightning Citori O/U 20, and the difference is huge. If you want to pile up birds, look for a good double that's light in weight. 20 is my favorite.
Post by: Duckslayer89 on September 17, 2021, 01:13:09 PM
Post by: sawyer on September 19, 2021, 08:29:46 AM
Pumps are great, but grouse are fast and my over and under can be shot faster than my pumps. I'd recommend a over and under. I got the stevens 555
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Post by: NW-GSP on September 19, 2021, 11:04:13 AM
Chukar and quail do not always flush all at once so I can quickly reload two shells compared to a pump or auto loader.
Post by: b23 on September 19, 2021, 04:16:45 PM
If beauty is what you're after, when it comes to firearms of any kind, to me, there is nothing sexier looking than a fine Over/Under. Just something about them does it for me. Kinda strange though because it's one of the few guns I've never personally owned. Shot lots of them just never owned one. :dunno:
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Post by: salish on September 20, 2021, 10:38:41 AM
Weight is important if you are covering ground, lighter, the better. I have a 20 gage o/u and is light as heck. I couldn't imagine carrying a pump. That being said, the third shot would be nice. If I were to do it again, I'd consider a 20 auto-loaDer, they make some slick, light set ups these days.
This summer I purchased a dedicated turkey gun. It's a 20ga Mossberg youth turkey gun, a pump. The barrel is 22" and the gun is 5-1/4 lbs. It has spacers on the stock to extend LOP to 13", and I added a slip-on recoil pad for a little more. The gun is a scaled down version of the Model 500 designed to fit youth of adults of smaller stature. Since I'm only 5'7" it fits me really well. I hadn't planned on using this for anything but gobblers, but it's so light and handy I may try it in the chukar hills this season. As for it's aesthetics, it can't hold a candle to my old classic upland guns, but the pragmatist in me is wanting to give it a go. Eventually, it's going to wear a red dot for turkey, but this year I think I'm going to see how it works for upland.
Post by: JDHasty on September 20, 2021, 12:53:34 PM
Easy choice. Ithaca 37 20 ga pump or BUL 20 ga semi auto 25 or 26 inch barrel. I had a Beretta 626 that was an absolute thing of beauty, but the novelty wore off fairly quickly. Light weight 20 ga repeaters are tops for covey birds. Don't get anything with the safety in the front of the trigger guard, make sure the safety is located in the back of the trigger guard close to your other three fingers to help keep your finger warm when it is cold out. Why anyone would put the safety out there where your trigger freezes is beyond me.
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Post by: Ronquillo08 on September 23, 2021, 10:35:00 AM
I have an 870 that was my very first gun. I haven’t carried it in about 10 years. I only shoot O/U’s and SxS’s, and contrary to some opinions, there is no draw back. Having two chokes for covey birds works. Unless you like destroying birds with your first shot, the 3rd shot is useless 95% of the time because you have to wait so you don’t destroy the birds, and when you wait, the 3rd shot is all but useless. With a choke that’s open, and one that’s tighter, you get a i high better pattern at various ranges, and you typically don’t have to wait on your first shot. Doubles will be shorter for the same length barrel, typically balance better, and also swing better. Don’t let anyone tell you balance and swing aren't important, they are. Don’t waste your time with a pump, or especially an auto that will eventually jam. Buy a good double that will go up in value, and have fun.:yeah: I agree
Post by: nutntoit on September 23, 2021, 01:50:20 PM
Post by: Datoneer on October 09, 2021, 09:16:14 AM
I’m going to start upland game bird hunting. I’m curious what most people are using. Over and unders or pumps for Upland gamebird. Mainly chucker quail and huns
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As others have said its personal preference. I use an O/U 20ga for Chukar and Quail myself. My reasoning is I dont like gun jams and most of the time, the third shot is wasted on Chukars :)
Post by: ian_padron on October 10, 2021, 08:22:56 PM
Post by: Forks on October 10, 2021, 08:30:40 PM
If I could only have 1, neither. A semi auto is best imo for covey birds, as there are typically stragglers that get up late. The 3rd shot is totally useful in upland hunting vs the hail mary it usually serves as in the duck blind.This for the win.....Buy a nice one that fits and be done. If you ever make it to Nevada, pull the plug and load 5.
Post by: mossback91 on October 10, 2021, 08:36:16 PM
All that said……I think my next shotgun purchase will be a browning sweet 16 8) lightweight semi auto
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