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Title: Limping puppy
Post by: Duckslayer89 on September 18, 2021, 12:00:23 PM
I have a 9 month old black lab. Heís really good looking and well tempered. Medium sized and muscular. We walk him regularly. Monday he started limping and holding his paw up when sitting. I checked his paw for thorns and didnít see anything. I started to rub his paw and the webbing for thorns and there was nothing. He yelped a tiny almost whine when I was rubbing his paw but it could have been just because he didnít like it. So Iíve been waiting for him to get better and now Iím freakin out thinking it could be elbow dysplasia because it doesnít seem to be improving. Could it be a pulled muscle or shoulder? Iíve extended his elbow out when heís relaxing and bent it straight then up bent multiple times. Flexed his joints and he acts like nothing is wrong at all. Then goes back to limping around the house when he walks around. Thanks for the help
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: KFhunter on September 18, 2021, 12:10:24 PM
How long has the limp went on?
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: Duckslayer89 on September 18, 2021, 12:10:49 PM
How long has the limp went on?

Started on Monday my gf says
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: Duckslayer89 on September 18, 2021, 12:11:32 PM
He will still paw with his left hand and also run around on it. Just limps
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: KFhunter on September 18, 2021, 12:11:48 PM
Limp on hard floors?

Shag carpet?

Lush lawn?

Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: ShaneTyTrey on September 18, 2021, 12:13:35 PM
Is it possible he could have gotten glass shards in his paw? 
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: KFhunter on September 18, 2021, 12:18:19 PM
Iíve extended his elbow out when heís relaxing and bent it straight then up bent multiple times. Flexed his joints and he acts like nothing is wrong at all

This leads me to believe it's most likely not elbow dysplasia, most likely a sprain from rough play.  It could be a tweaked toenail too or tweaked finger.

Take him swimming and see if he's using full range of motion in the water, otherwise I'd try to just keep things low key for another week or so and see if it resolves.   :twocents:
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: Duckslayer89 on September 18, 2021, 12:21:31 PM
Iíve extended his elbow out when heís relaxing and bent it straight then up bent multiple times. Flexed his joints and he acts like nothing is wrong at all

This leads me to believe it's most likely not elbow dysplasia, most likely a sprain from rough play.  It could be a tweaked toenail too or tweaked finger.

Take him swimming and see if he's using full range of motion in the water, otherwise I'd try to just keep things low key for another week or so and see if it resolves.   :twocents:

Unfortunately he was chasing toys on the patio in the back. He doesnít know how to take it easy. Everything is 100% as fast and as hard as he can. So definitely no more concrete playing. Thatís good news about you not thinking itís his elbow. Iíve pinched and pushed on every part of his elbow and he never even lifts his head up. So no signs of pain when touched. Idk if elbow dysplasia is sensitive to the touch?
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: Duckslayer89 on September 18, 2021, 12:22:00 PM
Is it possible he could have gotten glass shards in his paw?

Thatís a possibility as we go for walks around the neighborhood
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: KFhunter on September 18, 2021, 12:23:47 PM
Ah  ha!

Dogs get their nails stuck in between the deck boards and tweak them all the time

I'd bet a beer this is the case

Edit: nevermind, I see its a patio not a deck, and concrete not wood
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: callturner on September 18, 2021, 12:28:50 PM
Does he flinch when you massage his paw? Could be a sliver of some sort .
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: KFhunter on September 18, 2021, 12:30:53 PM
He'd be chewing on his paw, that wasn't mentioned so I assumed that's not happening
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: KFhunter on September 18, 2021, 12:36:30 PM
I'd give it a few more days, try the swimming and see if soft surfaces still limp then time for vet by next friday unless marked improvement.
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: Duckslayer89 on September 18, 2021, 12:37:12 PM
He'd be chewing on his paw, that wasn't mentioned so I assumed that's not happening

Ya no licking or chewing at all...any other ways to check for elbow dysplasia kfhunter?
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: KFhunter on September 18, 2021, 12:42:47 PM
Not at home
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: Duckslayer89 on September 18, 2021, 12:44:37 PM
I'd give it a few more days, try the swimming and see if soft surfaces still limp then time for vet by next friday unless marked improvement.

Ok sounds good Iíll try that man. I didnít see this before my last post
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: buckfvr on September 18, 2021, 12:58:33 PM
Could be a bruised pad, youd not see it but it happens and makes them limp.......Ive had labs steady since 1978 and seen it more than once.
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: Ridgeratt on September 18, 2021, 02:25:37 PM
I know that if he picks up a cheet grass seed in his pad he will have a sore paw and will limp as well. They will tuck right up into the folds of the paw.
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: 10thmountainarcher on September 18, 2021, 03:05:13 PM
Iíve extended his elbow out when heís relaxing and bent it straight then up bent multiple times. Flexed his joints and he acts like nothing is wrong at all

This leads me to believe it's most likely not elbow dysplasia, most likely a sprain from rough play.  It could be a tweaked toenail too or tweaked finger.

Take him swimming and see if he's using full range of motion in the water, otherwise I'd try to just keep things low key for another week or so and see if it resolves.   :twocents:

Unfortunately he was chasing toys on the patio in the back. He doesnít know how to take it easy. Everything is 100% as fast and as hard as he can. So definitely no more concrete playing. Thatís good news about you not thinking itís his elbow. Iíve pinched and pushed on every part of his elbow and he never even lifts his head up. So no signs of pain when touched. Idk if elbow dysplasia is sensitive to the touch?

I went through something similar recently with my female lab. Got X-rays done and everything, ended up being a soft tissue injury to her paw. When I would press on it she showed signs of pain.
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: Duckslayer89 on September 18, 2021, 03:27:34 PM
Iíve extended his elbow out when heís relaxing and bent it straight then up bent multiple times. Flexed his joints and he acts like nothing is wrong at all

This leads me to believe it's most likely not elbow dysplasia, most likely a sprain from rough play.  It could be a tweaked toenail too or tweaked finger.

Take him swimming and see if he's using full range of motion in the water, otherwise I'd try to just keep things low key for another week or so and see if it resolves.   :twocents:

Unfortunately he was chasing toys on the patio in the back. He doesnít know how to take it easy. Everything is 100% as fast and as hard as he can. So definitely no more concrete playing. Thatís good news about you not thinking itís his elbow. Iíve pinched and pushed on every part of his elbow and he never even lifts his head up. So no signs of pain when touched. Idk if elbow dysplasia is sensitive to the touch?

I went through something similar recently with my female lab. Got X-rays done and everything, ended up being a soft tissue injury to her paw. When I would press on it she showed signs of pain.

I pressed on all his pads and didnít get a reaction. Is elbow dysplasia usually tender to the touch?
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: 10thmountainarcher on September 18, 2021, 03:47:10 PM
My girls pads were fine, it was when I pressed on top that she showed a reaction. Could be his shoulder as well.
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: Shoofly09 on September 18, 2021, 06:01:39 PM
I know that if he picks up a cheet grass seed in his pad he will have a sore paw and will limp as well. They will tuck right up into the folds of the paw.


This happened to my springer.   Cheat grass seed worked itself in between pads, and was two centimeters inside her foot.    They had to knock her out and have surgery to open it up and dig it out.
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: Moccasin_Mountain on September 18, 2021, 06:12:24 PM
I know that if he picks up a cheet grass seed in his pad he will have a sore paw and will limp as well. They will tuck right up into the folds of the paw.


This happened to my springer.   Cheat grass seed worked itself in between pads, and was two centimeters inside her foot.    They had to knock her out and have surgery to open it up and dig it out.

That staff's nasty, it'll get in their ears too sometimes
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: Colin on September 20, 2021, 08:41:04 AM
Typically a good plan of action when a dog comes up with a limp and an obvious injury or injury event is not apparent then crate rest for 2-3 days and reevaluate. If it is just a sprain or strain then it needs to rest. If you don't see improvement in a few days then jump down the rabbit hole and see where it leads.

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Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: h2ofowlr on September 20, 2021, 08:58:09 AM
My female black lab is limping around the back yard this morning.  We were throwing the ball for her and my male, she may have gotten ran over by the male trying to catch the ball not sure.  We will keep an eye on her this week and see if it improves.
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: Duckslayer89 on September 20, 2021, 09:13:15 AM
My female black lab is limping around the back yard this morning.  We were throwing the ball for her and my male, she may have gotten ran over by the male trying to catch the ball not sure.  We will keep an eye on her this week and see if it improves.

Sounds like the exact thing that happened to him except we were just by ourselves one dog. But today I woke up and thought he was walking a little better finally. My gf thought the same thing so crossing my fingers. Heís been resting in the living room and no toys allowed inside so heís being lazy getting rest for sure
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: Duckslayer89 on November 09, 2021, 10:13:05 PM
Well my dog started limping bad again about a week ago. I donít know what happened but he was fine before we left for a hospital visit. Then came home and he was limping holding his paw up. Heís slowly getting better I feel like but tonight I noticed him curling his paw. I straightened it out flat just wondering maybe coincidence but then he curled it three times after i straightened it. Heís never once indicated pain anywhere I touch or stretch. He jumps up on the wood pile and wants to play. Would a hurt elbow make the paw want to curl?
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: LDennis24 on November 09, 2021, 11:59:48 PM
Does he seem ok neurologically? Do anything goofy on a regular basis or more so lately than before? Look up knuckling and see if you think it could be something like that. Hopefully not but a Vet would be able to tell you if it's something that's serious like that. Good luck!
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: Duckslayer89 on November 10, 2021, 12:17:46 AM
Does he seem ok neurologically? Do anything goofy on a regular basis or more so lately than before? Look up knuckling and see if you think it could be something like that. Hopefully not but a Vet would be able to tell you if it's something that's serious like that. Good luck!

He acts normal but did get sick day before yesterday. Just puked a few times and was lethargic for the day. But then bounced right back only sick one day. Itís definitely not neurological.
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: BD1 on November 10, 2021, 07:48:48 AM
Looks like you on month 2 of not knowing...if it were me I would have already visited my vet :dunno: Best of luck for your pup...nice looking dog.
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: Duckslayer89 on November 10, 2021, 09:09:30 AM
Looks like you on month 2 of not knowing...if it were me I would have already visited my vet :dunno: Best of luck for your pup...nice looking dog.

He got better though all the way back to normal and started again. Or I would have. And thanks yes he is.
Title: Re: Limping puppy
Post by: BD1 on November 10, 2021, 10:08:08 AM
Gotcha...makes sense  :tup:
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