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Other Hunting => Coyote, Small Game, Varmints => Topic started by: JRRJ2021 on September 22, 2021, 11:05:01 AM

Title: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: JRRJ2021 on September 22, 2021, 11:05:01 AM: Hello all,

I am not a Coyote hunter but was wondering about etiquette. I was out scouting for deer MF season and came across 2 coyote corpses probably 200 yards apart. both had clearly been shot and then left there. Based on decomp and weather my guess would be they were shot sometime mid summer. They were also more than a mile into the backwoods (off trail/road). Is this normal for hunters to shoot them and leave them? it seems a waste of a pelt and even if they are considered a pest and are a predator it looks disrespectful to the animal. Just curious if that is common or not.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: Platensek-po on September 22, 2021, 11:12:34 AM: Quote from: JRRJ2021 on September 22, 2021, 11:05:01 AM
Hello all,

I am not a Coyote hunter but was wondering about etiquette. I was out scouting for deer MF season and came across 2 coyote corpses probably 200 yards apart. both had clearly been shot and then left there. Based on decomp and weather my guess would be they were shot sometime mid summer. They were also more than a mile into the backwoods (off trail/road). Is this normal for hunters to shoot them and leave them? it seems a waste of a pelt and even if they are considered a pest and are a predator it looks disrespectful to the animal. Just curious if that is common or not.

Thank you.

Just gets composted. Think of all the bugs and birds and etc getting a nice free meal. Could be the fur in summer was not worth the effort.
Title: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: Learo2000GT on September 22, 2021, 11:13:04 AM: Yeah I have struggled with that as well. Hard shooting something you don’t eat. But in summer I will dispatch them to help control the population. . If you get one in the winter a prepared pelt was close to 100 bucks last time I checked at auction. That is if it’s got a nice winter coat. I would imagine most people see them as pests. Fur market is making a come back. I am thinking of running a trap line this year. I use to love trapping as a kid. That said I have not read Washington hunting regulations so not sure what restrictions are like.

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Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: duckmen1 on September 22, 2021, 11:14:34 AM: I think it is fairly common but as you pointed out no respect to the animal. I have always been one that takes the pelt and sometimes the skull. Unless mange is really bad. I have known a few that just shoot and want to leave all of them. But I will never do that. Don't agree with it. It is fun to target them and enjoy time spent afield but always do what you can to give respect to the animal harvested. Everyones views are different. And some manage for other reasons such as farming practices and I understand management due to lively hood as well.
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: buckfvr on September 22, 2021, 11:20:12 AM: Common here. Birds make short work of the carcasses, vultures and eagles on them til theres nothing much left for the magpies.
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: ctwiggs1 on September 22, 2021, 12:01:32 PM: A standing rule on one ranch that I have hunted is you're required to shoot all coyotes and if you miss, you owe $100 to the rancher.

They're a nasty creature to have around during the spring birthing season from what I hear.
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: Stein on September 22, 2021, 12:38:47 PM: I don't save pelts from coyotes. I kill gophers and moles too, pretty much the same category in my mind. I'd shoot the seal that stole my fish and broke my lucky flasher this morning as well if I could do so legally.

Nothing really goes to waste in the world, something else benefits.
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: Mtnwalker on September 22, 2021, 12:54:33 PM: How is having his skin hanging on your wall or skull on your desk any more respectful than letting nature take it's course on the body? Dead is dead, as long as it was legally and humanely killed the rest is irrelevant
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: b23 on September 22, 2021, 05:31:38 PM: Holy moly I sure hope I'm not a sinner for shooting sage rats and leaving them because I've killed literally thousands of those things over the course of my time. Sure hope that doesn't mean I'm taking the elevator to the lower level when my time comes. :yike:
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: fowl smacker on September 22, 2021, 05:38:41 PM: Shoot em and leave em. Unless you want the pelt or tail for a bounty somewhere.
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: MADMAX on September 22, 2021, 05:38:56 PM: I see em
And it’s legal
Boom
Have a nice day🤪
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: LDennis24 on September 22, 2021, 06:03:39 PM: Coyote etiquette: If one gives you a clear shot you shoot it. That's the law of the land! :dunno:
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: hunter399 on September 22, 2021, 06:14:19 PM: Old farmers would string them up on the bob wire or fence post .
As a deterrent to keep other coyote away.
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: PolarBear on September 22, 2021, 06:38:34 PM: I shoot em and leave them. It’s more bait for the other coyotes (yes they will eat each other) and keeps them away temporarily from my calves and chickens. A few years ago my neighbor placed a dead cow where I could see it from the house. I killed 26 coyotes off of it snd never picked one up. They were eaten as fast as the cow. I had a fresh carcass delivered last week. Killed only 2 so far but that will pick up.
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: Learo2000GT on September 22, 2021, 07:06:03 PM: Quote from: PolarBear on September 22, 2021, 06:38:34 PM
I shoot em and leave them. It’s more bait for the other coyotes (yes they will eat each other) and keeps them away temporarily from my calves and chickens. A few years ago my neighbor placed a dead cow where I could see it from the house. I killed 26 coyotes off of it snd never picked one up. They were eaten as fast as the cow. I had a fresh carcass delivered last week. Killed only 2 so far but that will pick up.
Man now having a bait pipe like that would be amazing. If you ever need help let me know. I could use a lesson or 2 my self.

In Montana I always hunted Wolfs and coyotes over the got piles and was amazed how quickly they would get in it once the felt the course was clear.

My boss lease the hunting rights at a ranch in Thompson falls Montana and it was simply amazing how quickly the Wolfe’s populated with no management by hunters. Looked like a bone yard and all the deer moved into town. Standing in front yards ane half starved.

So I had zero issues with taking a few out. In wa state it seams like more rules are passed to keep predators protected and the deer and elk population suffers. So I see it as a way of doing my part to balance the eco system. The Wolfe’s I get made them into wall hanging but coyotes I just leave them where there at unless winter and I get a nice clean shot on one that doesn’t blow it a part then I will sometimes skin, stretch and tan the hide.

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Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: JRRJ2021 on September 22, 2021, 07:23:55 PM: Thank you for the input and perspective everyone. I guess seeing the carcasses uneaten had me thinking. I completely understand for those protecting crops and livestock it makes sense. You have given me much to think about.
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: konradcountry on September 24, 2021, 09:23:37 PM: Buzzards gotta eat

Same as worms
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: Seabass on September 24, 2021, 11:49:49 PM: A summer coyote pelt isn’t worth the casing of the round that killed it.
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: JJB11B on September 25, 2021, 08:55:35 AM: Quote from: Seabass on September 24, 2021, 11:49:49 PM
A summer coyote pelt isn’t worth the casing of the round that killed it.
exactly, as already mentioned, we have a predator problem thanks to the anti hunting controlled WDFW and every predator that gets killed is like an act of community service. Bears, big cats, wolves population are growing exponentially while ungulate populations are plummeting or migrating to “safer” areas to get away from the wolves…. I kill every coyote I can.
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: CastleRocker on September 25, 2021, 12:16:11 PM: As others have said...if the pelt is prime, then skin, flesh, stretch, and tan it. Otherwise, they lay where they land. As far as trapping goes, I used to trap the heck out of them in the early '80's, and for some reason, there were a lot of deer around then too. Now, with the whole "live trap" bs...well, I don't know how to convince a coyote walk into a cage. Was hard enough just trying to make them put a front paw on the center of a pan, or run their head through a snare. I know of nobody who puts up much coyote fur with a live trap. Also, for some reason, the deer population isn't as high now as it once was. I'm sure that's just a coincidence.
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: follow maggie on October 03, 2021, 06:04:56 PM: I have no issue shooting them where I see them & letting them lie where they land. If they’re nasty, the creepy crawlers living on them can transfer to you if you handle it, so keep that in mind.
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: Windwalker on October 03, 2021, 09:57:16 PM: Just shot one right before dark in the back pasture.
Have a pack that is getting too bold and figure its just a matter of time before they get into the chickens.

Heard 4 or 5 sound off as we headed out to hang trail cams. Ran in and grabbed the 204. Contemplated waiting until their fur gets better but when this one came out of the woods it looked mangy.
Both sides and tail was missing most of its hair. Sides of its face also. One of the nastiest smelling ones Ive seen…or smelled anyway.

I prefer waiting until winter and the ability to utilize the hides.
If they appear to be a source of mange its going to die as fast as I can get the crosshairs on em.
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: idaho guy on October 04, 2021, 02:59:50 PM: Quote from: LDennis24 on September 22, 2021, 06:03:39 PM
Coyote etiquette: If one gives you a clear shot you shoot it. That's the law of the land! :dunno:

:yeah: I dont like wasting the hide but summer time coyote fur is worthless. I also trap and will definitely save all good hides and they will start getting good later this month. Prices have been better recently. I don't like to waste them but and old rancher told me a long time ago if I shot every coyote I had a chance at the population might stay even. I think he was right. You don't want an over population of coyotes so taking them at any opportunity is a good idea. Its like community service for the deer community :chuckle:
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: phildobaggins on October 04, 2021, 03:45:36 PM: Quote from: LDennis24 on September 22, 2021, 06:03:39 PM
Coyote etiquette: If one gives you a clear shot you shoot it. That's the law of the land! :dunno:

:yeah:
Title: Re: Coyote Etiquette
Post by: PolarBear on October 04, 2021, 04:14:08 PM: I’ve only shot 6 off of the cow carcass in a couple of weeks. Not a one of the dead yotes are still where I killed them. Lots of critters feasting on beef and dog. 🤣