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Title: Blacktail Rut Thread - Post updates here
Post by: HunterofWA on October 14, 2021, 11:01:29 AM
Hey, fellow blacktail hunters - figured I'd start up this thread again. Don't have any findings to report yet but I'll post when I do. Feel free to do the same, good luck out there!!
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Post by: grundy53 on October 14, 2021, 11:09:53 AM
Following along.

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Post by: 85yota on October 14, 2021, 11:47:06 AM
 Been waiting for this..it seems the early cold weather "may" have caused some early movement..this guy showed up last year a small 2 point early November and disappeared of course till now.. .. He was sure on this does ass but she wanted nothing to do with him.. Residential neighborhood of course with green belts around
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Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 14, 2021, 12:34:36 PM
Saw a med size 3 chasing a doe this morning.  A spike and small fork were cruising around the area yesterday. This in 624.
Saw a buck with a group of does in 602 a few days earlier, but not quite rut behavior other than out in daylight and with a small herd of does.
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Post by: fishnfur on October 14, 2021, 04:39:20 PM
All quiet down here.  I was reviewing old vids on my phone.  I caught a nice forkie in full chase of a doe on 19 Oct. a couple years ago.

Taking my son out to hunt reprod Saturday.  Low expectations, but as they say, you can't kill 'em on your couch.  Good luck all.  Hope we see some early action. 
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Post by: elkoholic1 on October 14, 2021, 04:40:39 PM
 :hello:     

  tagging  :tup:
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Post by: hawks33 on October 14, 2021, 04:58:45 PM
Starting to see some bucks out during the day on whidbey. It usually starts earlier here than most places, but it seems to be starting up, a little. Good luck all
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Post by: Axle on October 14, 2021, 05:37:30 PM
Got a stud 2x2 around my place. His neck is swollen now. He ripped up my young butternut tree several days ago. I think I can salvage it but he sure did a number on it. He will be a good breeder buck for sure.
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Post by: Buck Rub Jr on October 14, 2021, 05:45:21 PM
Seen some small bucks around with does. This guy was out basking in the sun by himself the other day.
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Post by: Bareback on October 14, 2021, 05:51:10 PM
In the last week we went from four local does and no bucks to 2 spikes, 4 fork horns, and 2 three points. The multi branch are cruising trying to establish their pad. The big ole boys will come out soon. Flat out stupid is a good week away.
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Post by: PupBrotherOutdoor on October 14, 2021, 06:54:51 PM
Seen some small bucks around with does. This guy was out basking in the sun by himself the other day.

Buck Rub JR,

This is a thread for blacktails not Mule deer! Drop the pin where that buck is! Sheesh!!
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Post by: fishnfur on October 14, 2021, 08:33:33 PM
Hmmm.... That's a super nice buck  but in my mind, that looks more like a killer Blacktail rather than a small version of a solid Muley.  He's not massively wide (just a bit outside the ears) but does have relatively long tines that might suggest Muley as well.  It looks a lot like those BT bucks that come from the Eugene, OR area . The location of this particular buck would complete the story.  Those eyeguards are awesome either way.
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Post by: Buck Rub Jr on October 14, 2021, 09:20:08 PM
Hmmm.... That's a super nice buck  but in my mind, that looks more like a killer Blacktail rather than a small version of a solid Muley.  He's not massively wide (just a bit outside the ears) but does have relatively long tines that might suggest Muley as well.  It looks a lot like those BT bucks that come from the Eugene, OR area . The location of this particular buck would complete the story.  Those eyeguards are awesome either way.
Heís a Puyallup buck!
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Post by: wooltie on October 15, 2021, 06:19:02 AM
I saw a buck walking by my house a week ago.  Then yesterday at 5 pm I saw a buck nose to the ground, walking behind a doe in the yard next to my driveway.

I've never seen bucks this early around my house.  I see deer year round - mostly does and kids.

Usually I see bucks just about every day during the first two weeks of November.
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Post by: grundy53 on October 15, 2021, 06:30:55 AM
Hmmm.... That's a super nice buck  but in my mind, that looks more like a killer Blacktail rather than a small version of a solid Muley.  He's not massively wide (just a bit outside the ears) but does have relatively long tines that might suggest Muley as well.  It looks a lot like those BT bucks that come from the Eugene, OR area . The location of this particular buck would complete the story.  Those eyeguards are awesome either way.
I think he was being facetious. Saying it was a large BT.

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Post by: fishngamereaper on October 15, 2021, 06:58:16 AM
Cold spell got some deer moving but buck's are just cruising a little right now... mostly young and dumb. The rut is controlled by the does and it doesn't change more than a couple days in general.  They'll go nocturnal again this weekend with the moon phase and opening season crowds.

I wouldn't expect full on stupid for another 10-12 days.  :twocents:
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Post by: trophyhunt on October 15, 2021, 07:08:44 AM
My co-worker went to ocean shores about 5 weeks ago, watched a doe give birth!!  That doe was bred around feb, crazy late breeding for her.
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Post by: JakeLand on October 16, 2021, 10:20:06 PM
Nope not rutting, this morning had 4 Does work down into a cut from the timber and a 3 point fed right by them without even glancing at them , then at around 1:00 pm I snuck up on a brute of a forky ( biggest Iíve ever seen) and was bedded a couple feet away from a decent 3x3 no swelling and no stank and very few rubs around
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Post by: fishnfur on October 16, 2021, 11:35:07 PM
Hmmm.... That's a super nice buck  but in my mind, that looks more like a killer Blacktail rather than a small version of a solid Muley.  He's not massively wide (just a bit outside the ears) but does have relatively long tines that might suggest Muley as well.  It looks a lot like those BT bucks that come from the Eugene, OR area . The location of this particular buck would complete the story.  Those eyeguards are awesome either way.
I think he was being facetious. Saying it was a large BT.

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Geeze, you're right.  The size of the buck had my mind spinning.
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Post by: fishnfur on October 16, 2021, 11:42:50 PM
My co-worker went to ocean shores about 5 weeks ago, watched a doe give birth!!  That doe was bred around feb, crazy late breeding for her.

So I'm thinking, that doe won't be hitting estrus anytime soon.   8)
Normally, a fawn born that late has a very low chance of surviving the winter.  Even in the relatively temperate coastal winter climate, cold rains and no food will kill the late-born fawns well before spring comes around.
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Post by: PolarBear on October 17, 2021, 07:47:46 AM
Cold spell got some deer moving but buck's are just cruising a little right now... mostly young and dumb. The rut is controlled by the does and it doesn't change more than a couple days in general.  They'll go nocturnal again this weekend with the moon phase and opening season crowds.

I wouldn't expect full on stupid for another 10-12 days.  :twocents:
:yeah:
We get ďearly rutĒ threads every year but in all reality the true rut happens about the same time every year and itís not the first 2 weeks of season.
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Post by: fishnfur on October 17, 2021, 01:50:40 PM
Rutting - no.  Chasing and searching - at least occasionally.

My only backyard cam currently out caught a small forkie chasing a doe in the early morning hours of the 12th.  It is pretty well accepted that young bucks will chase way before the doe are ready for action - their behavior is normal for that portion of the buck's maturation process as it ages.  On the other hand, there is often something happening that gives the bigger bucks a sudden urge to get out and start sniffing around, typically sometime around the 13th of the month.  I've seen it year after year - previously unseen bucks suddenly make an appearance for a night or two and then disappear again till the very end of the month or even later.  Many, many forum members have posted photos of massive bucks suddenly making daylight appearances at mid-day in areas of heavy human traffic such as school yards, worksites, football games, etc., the timing of which all seem to converge around the 13 - 15th of October.     

I've often postulated over the past several years that the onset of these more mature buck behaviors was likely their reaction to a nearby doe experiencing an early estrus, which would presumably leave the first scent of the oncoming rut both in the air and on the ground (and get those bigger bucks out for a first cruise of the season).  Discussions in scientific literature such as the following discuss the estrus cycles of BT deer:

Estrus in Black-Tailed Deer
Beatrice Wong; Katherine L. Parker
Journal of Mammalogy, Vol. 69, No. 1. (Feb., 1988), pp. 168-171.
Stable URL:
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0022-2372%28198802%2969%3A1%3C168%3AEIBD%3E2.0.CO%3B2-9
Journal of Mammalogy is currently published by American Society of Mammalogists

"The potential mating season of the four female black-tailed deer (day of first estrus to day of last estrus)
ranged from 107 to 124 days (X i SD = 118.3 i 7.8 days). Wild black-tailed deer in northern latitudes
mate between mid-October and early January, with most mating occurring in mid-November (Anderson,
1981:42). Our study and observations by Cowan (1956:527) document that female black-tailed deer, like
Rocky Mountain mule deer (Anderson, 1981:42), are capable of mating into March."

An early estrus in a single doe could (in my mind) easily get a few of the local bucks up and doing some searching around during a period where they would otherwise be laying low.  Clearly this is not "the rut" per se, but just the first trickle of the upcoming rut activity which typically peaks sometime around 10 -12 Nov. +/-

Further demonstrating this idea - that same early morning of Oct. 12th, shortly after the small forkie chased a doe across the cam's field of view, this better (and previously unknown buck) also makes an appearance.  Certainly it could be coincidence, but when these bigger buck appearances happen consistently year after year at similar times of the month, then the likelyhood is likely that some other process is at work.   


 
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Post by: trophyhunt on October 17, 2021, 06:28:00 PM
Good friend works for the city of Kent, he saw a 3 point chasing a doe in their water shed last week.
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Post by: Pacific Ghost on October 18, 2021, 09:40:48 AM
Haven't seen this guy before, and now he shows up on a property adjacent to ours. Hanging out with at least a half dozen other deer, and acting kind of like an idiot.  :dunno: Of course the residential area deer are quite a bit different than the typical timber land animals. At least in my experience.
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Post by: elkboy on October 18, 2021, 10:00:06 AM
Haven't seen this guy before, and now he shows up on a property adjacent to ours. Hanging out with at least a half dozen other deer, and acting kind of like an idiot.  :dunno: Of course the residential area deer are quite a bit different than the typical timber land animals. At least in my experience.

What a pig of a blacktail!  Look at that chunky body.  Lots of venison, right there...
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Post by: HunterofWA on October 18, 2021, 10:09:42 AM
Not much activity on the cams for me, but I have found two nice rubs from mature bucks.
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Post by: Wolfdog2314 on October 18, 2021, 02:34:37 PM
Rubs are definitely starting to pop up. Havenít seen a deer today tho. Could have shot a decent bull at 50 yards tho. Go figure.
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Post by: Parasite on October 18, 2021, 03:18:05 PM
Saw a Forky close to the Lacey Cabela's a few days ago around 9am. Swollen neck and trolling.
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Post by: Sundance on October 18, 2021, 04:04:12 PM
Good article on calling blacktails as we move closer to peak rut.

https://pnwbowhunting.com/blog/f/calling-blacktails-top-10-questions-answers-a7abb46e7044?blogcategory=Blacktail+deer&fbclid=IwAR3mTisv15DYTi-UAkmiQEcYmZ_gRcSHUNkbfeS9AqcA0dw9mFz3qwsRq5I
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Post by: fishnfur on October 19, 2021, 12:11:46 PM
Great article Sundance.  Lots of good information.  Estrus cycles in Blacktails average roughly 23 +/- days (rather than 28)according to all the literature I've read. Some doe studies found estrus cycles as short as 19 days. 



Haven't seen this guy before, and now he shows up on a property adjacent to ours. Hanging out with at least a half dozen other deer, and acting kind of like an idiot.  :dunno: Of course the residential area deer are quite a bit different than the typical timber land animals. At least in my experience.

I could be totally wrong, but I always assumed that residential deer would be on the exact same schedule as the deer in the deep woods (in that same area).  We are just better able to observe the behaviour when it happens in a our more open environment.    :dunno:
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Post by: Pacific Ghost on October 19, 2021, 03:05:17 PM
Great article Sundance.  Lots of good information.  Estrus cycles in Blacktails average roughly 23 +/- days (rather than 28)according to all the literature I've read. Some doe studies found estrus cycles as short as 19 days. 



Haven't seen this guy before, and now he shows up on a property adjacent to ours. Hanging out with at least a half dozen other deer, and acting kind of like an idiot.  :dunno: Of course the residential area deer are quite a bit different than the typical timber land animals. At least in my experience.



I could be totally wrong, but I always assumed that residential deer would be on the exact same schedule as the deer in the deep woods (in that same area).  We are just better able to observe the behaviour when it happens in a our more open environment.    :dunno:

Yes, I would assume so too, but I was mostly referring to how the neighborhood deer are less shy and more easily observed. However, for several years now we seem to be seeing big deer during daylight in the pre-rut phase, doing rutting deer things. Are they finding the "only" early breeder in the area? I have no idea.
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Post by: fishnfur on October 20, 2021, 10:08:28 PM
Great article Sundance.  Lots of good information.  Estrus cycles in Blacktails average roughly 23 +/- days (rather than 28)according to all the literature I've read. Some doe studies found estrus cycles as short as 19 days. 



Haven't seen this guy before, and now he shows up on a property adjacent to ours. Hanging out with at least a half dozen other deer, and acting kind of like an idiot.  :dunno: Of course the residential area deer are quite a bit different than the typical timber land animals. At least in my experience.



I could be totally wrong, but I always assumed that residential deer would be on the exact same schedule as the deer in the deep woods (in that same area).  We are just better able to observe the behaviour when it happens in a our more open environment.    :dunno:

Yes, I would assume so too, but I was mostly referring to how the neighborhood deer are less shy and more easily observed. However, for several years now we seem to be seeing big deer during daylight in the pre-rut phase, doing rutting deer things. Are they finding the "only" early breeder in the area? I have no idea.

Maybe not finding her, but perhaps just getting a scent of her.  I bet a single hot doe peeing her scent here and there could get an army of bucks out looking for her or any other thing that will stand still for a quicky.
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Post by: 85yota on October 20, 2021, 10:28:16 PM
My " theory" is that life is easier for residential deer with less predators, milder winters and plenty of food in peoples yards. This allows does to breed earlier as they will drop fawns earlier but because of there "easy" life this doesnt result in high mortality rate.. Woods deer have so much more to deal with and no houses to hide behind avoiding predators they breed and drop later which helps avoid snow as well.. In reality its more likely we see them more just based on there proximity to houses and roads and mainly because they have way less fear of humans. Doing tree work I find a lot of rubs in peoples yards earlier than i seem to see in the woods.. ( funny convo when there ornamentals die) ..
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Post by: fishnfur on October 21, 2021, 12:09:51 AM
I can't totally disagree with you on any of your points, though studies by the State of WA back in the 40's and 50's showed that domestic dogs take out a significant portion of the herd - something like 10 - 11 %.  As such, residential areas are not so predator free as we imagien, plus the constant flow of traffic kills another huge portion of the local deer population.  The road below my house that runs into town is like the Killing Fields come late October.  Brutal carnage.  Bucks take the larger portion of the strikes, but by late season, there's significant numbers of all deer hopping around on three legs, and many of the younger bucks just disappear. Also, as I found out last year, even though hunting is not allowed in the city limits, many of the bucks are taken by stick and string by homeowners that live adjacent to deer bedding areas.   That's here, not  Bellevue or Issaquah.  This is a blue collar town and almost eveyone hunts in some way or another.  Point being, there's plenty of predation of the residential herd too.

Mother nature likes to experiment with breeding patterns in order to take advantage of environmental conditions.  Salmon and Steelhead are well known to stray from their natal streams and return to other streams to spawn.   This pattern of behavior helps keep the genetic pool of a single stream from growing stagnant and assists in re-populating streams that have diminished native spawners returning.  It makes perfect sense.

In deer, the general theory is that massive numbers of deer mating in a narrow period of time in the fall produces a flood of offspring in the Spring that predators cannot hope to completely devour, thus ensuring good escapement of fawns despite heavy predation.  I believe that with warming weather patterns worldwide, deer will attempt (biologically speaking) to take advantage of Spring weather being slightly warmer that it was decades ago.  Some will develop earlier estrus cycles that allow them to both breed and birth earlier than in times past so that fawns can take advantage of the longer period of browse availability that comes with warmer Springs and Falls.  Even a lttle bit of extra time that a fawn has to grow and establish a protective layer of fat makes a huge difference in their ability to survive winters when conditions often kill fawns born later in Spring and early Summer.  If that pattern of earlier breeding/birthing is effective, then offspring of those animals will have a survival advantage compared to animals born later in Spring/early Summer . They (and their progeny) will likely survive winters better and continue that pattern of earlier than normal breeding in subsequent generations. Examination of the Whitetail rut timing variation shows a wide range of of "peak of the rut"  periods, the South East US being much later than the majority of other locations.  The likely reason for this variation - climate differences that over millenia, resulated in a southern deer rut much later than Northern populations.   Could there be another explanation?  Probably, but environmental climate differences seem to be the most likely cause for the delta. 

These ideas, of course, may be totally wrong, but I still adhear to the general ideas just 'cause the seem to make sense in my mind. .  .

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Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 21, 2021, 05:45:59 AM
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and it varies from area to area
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Post by: fishnfur on October 23, 2021, 09:03:02 PM
I have opinions about politics and religion  Unless someone knows a deer that can talk, all we can do is guess what they're doing.  It is likely that there is a huge range of behaviors all happening at the same time so basing an opinon on what one or two deer are doing is presumptuous at best.

Back to the OP's topic......  What's going on in the pre-rut.  Things are very slow in Mason where I'm hunting.  Doe are not feeding at mid-day and don't come out till the last 20 minutes or so before last light.  It might be the moon phase.  Looked just one day past full moon last night. No rush to get out and eat when there is some light all night long. 

Heard 7 or 8 shots today that were likely at deer.  Four prrior to noon, and four in the last three hours of the day.  Still very slow, but better than last year.
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Post by: Platensek-po on October 23, 2021, 09:25:03 PM
I have opinions about politics and religion  Unless someone knows a deer that can talk, all we can do is guess what they're doing.  It is likely that there is a huge range of behaviors all happening at the same time so basing an opinon on what one or two deer are doing is presumptuous at best.

Back to the OP's topic......  What's going on in the pre-rut.  Things are very slow in Mason where I'm hunting.  Doe are not feeding at mid-day and don't come out till the last 20 minutes or so before last light.  It might be the moon phase.  Looked just one day past full moon last night. No rush to get out and eat when there is some light all night long. 

Heard 7 or 8 shots today that were likely at deer.  Four prrior to noon, and four in the last three hours of the day.  Still very slow, but better than last year.

Also in Mason and I can confirm this. Saw 2 very young does feeding around noon today but I think the mature does have kicked them to the curb. Itís been fairly slow but should start picking up next week especially if the weather holds. Definitely better than last year! Next weekend should be good
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Post by: NewHunter24 on October 24, 2021, 12:00:20 PM
In mason also, first year hunting so I thought I was doing something wrong not seeing a single deer. Pretty excited to go out again closer to the end of the month
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Post by: Twispriver on October 24, 2021, 01:44:44 PM
He looks rutty to me
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Post by: MeatMissile on October 24, 2021, 03:20:53 PM
I have opinions about politics and religion  Unless someone knows a deer that can talk, all we can do is guess what they're doing.  It is likely that there is a huge range of behaviors all happening at the same time so basing an opinon on what one or two deer are doing is presumptuous at best.

Back to the OP's topic......  What's going on in the pre-rut.  Things are very slow in Mason where I'm hunting.  Doe are not feeding at mid-day and don't come out till the last 20 minutes or so before last light.  It might be the moon phase.  Looked just one day past full moon last night. No rush to get out and eat when there is some light all night long. 

Heard 7 or 8 shots today that were likely at deer.  Four prrior to noon, and four in the last three hours of the day.  Still very slow, but better than last year.

Also in Mason and I can confirm this. Saw 2 very young does feeding around noon today but I think the mature does have kicked them to the curb. Itís been fairly slow but should start picking up next week especially if the weather holds. Definitely better than last year! Next weekend should be good

Saw a lot of young does in groups today.  Big does were all solitary.  Seen a lot of deer today.
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Post by: brokentrail on October 24, 2021, 04:05:10 PM
I filled a doe tag this morning on a lone doe in 654.  She was by herself and feeding about 8:15.  I have yet to see my first rub this year.
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Post by: spoonman on October 24, 2021, 04:22:48 PM
The rut is starting to happen. I have a doe tag for 666 but have yet to see one in the day light. Last night my two trail cams were going off non stop with two different bucks chasing a doe. Necks are swollen, noses up, chasing the ladies.
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Post by: fishnfur on October 24, 2021, 04:43:55 PM
I have opinions about politics and religion  Unless someone knows a deer that can talk, all we can do is guess what they're doing.  It is likely that there is a huge range of behaviors all happening at the same time so basing an opinon on what one or two deer are doing is presumptuous at best.

Back to the OP's topic......  What's going on in the pre-rut.  Things are very slow in Mason where I'm hunting.  Doe are not feeding at mid-day and don't come out till the last 20 minutes or so before last light.  It might be the moon phase.  Looked just one day past full moon last night. No rush to get out and eat when there is some light all night long. 

Heard 7 or 8 shots today that were likely at deer.  Four prrior to noon, and four in the last three hours of the day.  Still very slow, but better than last year.

Also in Mason and I can confirm this. Saw 2 very young does feeding around noon today but I think the mature does have kicked them to the curb. Itís been fairly slow but should start picking up next week especially if the weather holds. Definitely better than last year! Next weekend should be good

Saw a lot of young does in groups today.  Big does were all solitary.  Seen a lot of deer today.

More Mason Co. - Snuck in on a fawn or yearling yesterday - no mamma around.  I pushed a little to hard and it blasted from cover and took off in a direction that I couldn't even see what is was.  Saw a couple mature doe last night - one single, one with fawn.

Sat in the cut in the pouring rain this morning, reveling in the splendor and misery of hunting Blacktails.  Third day in this spot where there's ususally a parade of doe groups - no sightings in the the three mornings, hough Friday I got winded at close range in the darkish first few minutes of first light.  Scared the crap out of that deer.  I never saw it at all and I had just finished glassing everything in range. 

Bailed out of my dead zone spot today after an hour of glassing and started slowly working my way across property.  I either got winded, got seen, or just by coincidence, I caught sight of a big bodied deer running (not stotting) it's last steps into a one acre island of forest in the middle of the cut.  Only saw it for maybe a half second, no idea what the sex was. Hurrried my butt down to the far side of that grove of trees to intercept it but it seemed to be gone.  I realized I was upwind of where I was hoping it would come out, so I backed out and assumed I'd missed it.  Frustrated, I decided to work on an ongoing forestry project that I've been trying to get finished up.  Head back to the truck, grab a bunch of gear and head back to where I first saw that animal. Walking down the forest road that bisects the property, hands full of gear, rifle on my shoulder, I suddenly see a big fatty of a buck, appearing very dark and haunting, standing dead in the middle of the road, 130ish yards down the road where I had just been ten minutes earlier (and where I hunted the last three evenings with no sightings).  He's looking directly at me, I drop everything in my hands, making a ridiculous amount of noise, but he is gone before I get anywhere close to getting the rifle off my shoulder. Hustled back down the road (again) hoping for a chance at him, but he was gone  for good this time.  I feel pretty certain this buck has spent a lot of time on the property.  I hope to see him again next weekend if he's still alive.

Found a mature doe an 90 minutes later up and browsing around.  No kids to be seen but she did not appear to be hot at all, just very relaxed, tail down, just feeding.  I followed her for about 15 minutes but eventually decided to bail at 10:00 am and go home and see the wife and kids.  All in all, by the shots I was hearing between 7:00 and 9:00 am, there were a lot of deer moving in the rain this morning.  Seven, maybe 8 different rifle shots from areas on all sides of me as I hunted - equal the number of shots I'd heard in the previous two and a half days.   
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Post by: Molon5labe on October 24, 2021, 06:01:53 PM
Hunted Friday evening in arlington. Sun up to sun down in granite falls Saturday, and sun up to 4pm in Arlington today. Not a single deer spotted. I think I'm cursed.
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Post by: fishnfur on October 24, 2021, 06:28:39 PM
Don't give up.  It's hard sometimes but staying positive and focused will keep you in the game.  Rut activities at elevation often seem to run a bit behind the lowlands.  It will happen.
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Post by: fishnfur on October 25, 2021, 07:34:33 PM
Kids at school.  Wife at work.  Radar shows it's pissing rain and windy just west of town and looking like it's going to get worse.....  I had to talk myself into heading out for a few hours before I had to pick up kids from school, but the weather conditions couldn't be ignored.  Sucked it up, put on my rain gear and headed out for my second shower of the day.  Just for fun and because I was hoping for some up close action, I grabbed my Marlin 336 30-30 as I headed out the door.

Did a short mid-day hunt in South Ryderwood, pouring rain plus some pretty strong winds at times.  Could have been awesome, but it lived up to my normal experiences of hunting GMU 630 in nasty weather - no bucks responding to the foul conditions that I could tell.  Almost no rubs either - found one set of small rubs across the road from each other in DNR six or seven-year-old Red Alder reprod that buts up to big timber and mixed forest. There used to be a lot of fresh sign in this unit back when it was a three year old cut.  Now - pretty scarce. Himalayan Blackberry showed the most sign of browsing, and most of that was out near the county road access. 

Had a single mature doe walk out in front of me around 11:00 am, no kids in tow, no bucks following her, at least that I saw during the 10 minutes I waited in place.  She was not looking hot at all - only very relaxed.  Other than that, it was just cold and wet. 
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Post by: BlackRiverTaxidermy on October 25, 2021, 08:00:52 PM
Greatest thing about this job is hearing the stories and of course seeing some tremendous animals. Last few days the stories are telling the bucks are staying close to the does. Physical differences are being seen in their necks to for those being brought in for shoulder mounts. A typical mature buck will be 20Ē-21Ē (taxidermy measurement behind the ears at the narrowest part) pre rut. However hormonal changes caused by the rut get them bigger. Last 2 days Iím starting to see 22Ē-23Ē necks with swelling mid way downÖ.good sign! Some masher bucks getting taken too, another good sign.
Get out there!! Seems to be a little earlier this year!
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Post by: SpicyTacos on October 25, 2021, 08:21:16 PM
I'm wondering what the hell is going on where I live. I am not a seeing deer as much as I usually do. San Juan island disease has got some deer down dead.
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Post by: TheStovePipeKid on October 25, 2021, 08:25:08 PM
I spent the day getting soaked and watching for falling limbs. Worked a few logging roads along some reprod and sat in a few sections of reprod. I finally got does on cameras again this past week. None appear to be hot. I'll be back out in the morning.
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Post by: fowl smacker on October 25, 2021, 09:18:02 PM
Daughter's buck tonight was a little swollen and he was getting stinky.  Same with other Daughter's buck Wed.   Buck tonight was with 2 does.
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Post by: johnr060 on October 25, 2021, 11:49:19 PM
Shot a buck yesterday chasing 3 does at 11am. Also, saw a 2 point cruising tonight near the same area.
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Post by: wooltie on October 26, 2021, 06:52:06 AM
I was in 418 lowlands all day in the timber and edges of cuts.  Didn't see any deer, just nooksack elk tracks and poop.  Very very faint random pairs of deer tracks.  Been exploring this area several days.

Time to cross off this spot and find a new area. 

Wish there was a reliable estimate of deer #s in lowland 418. 

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Post by: PolarBear on October 26, 2021, 07:04:17 AM
I watched a monster 3x4 push a doe where the Delezene meets South Bank Rd out of Elma.
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Post by: kball4 on October 26, 2021, 07:23:15 AM
2 huge bucks on a military installation this morning watching the same doe, right next to the road.  Not fighting just standing there watching her, it is coming soon.
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Post by: HunterofWA on October 26, 2021, 08:28:39 AM
Caught a nice buck on camera over the weekend. Haven't seen him before. Didn't get a great look at his neck, but he tore up a tree nearby.

Yesterday I hunted the morning anticipating that the wind + rain would be the ticket. Well, the rain didn't come till 12:00 and the wind wasn't as constant as I'd like. I ended up sneaking close to a doe and her fawn and watched them for a good 45 minutes, but then the wind switched and she walked away. Would have been a perfect setup if the bucks were chasing.
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Post by: Green Tree on October 26, 2021, 09:21:44 AM
Went out yesterday evening saw a really nice buck with his nose to the ground following 2 does. The spot was about 700ft elevation. Missed the shot, I go down to verify the miss and he's standing there looks at me and continues raking a maple then back into the thicket he goes.
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Post by: Spuddieselwwu on October 27, 2021, 08:46:35 AM
Any thoughts on starting to rattle/grunt a bit?  Not seeing a ton of action from bucks in my spots - plenty of does.
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Post by: TLEVIN40 on October 27, 2021, 09:05:42 AM
I was in a blind all day Saturday on Whidbey Island (10 Acres Private Land) and didn't see any rutting activities.

The game camera has recently caught bucks locking horns multiple times however.  Going to try again mid Nov.
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Post by: kramman on October 27, 2021, 12:55:35 PM
Just watched the weather report. I would say you'll need to be in the woods Friday afternoon and Saturday a.m.. heavy rains starting this afternoon end Friday. Most blacktail deer movement I've ever seen was right when a major rain storm ended.The woods all of a sudden became alive with deer, and my brother harvested a mature 2x2 buck with a heavy body. Almost the size of mules we've shot in eastern wa.Goodluck to all.
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Post by: fishnfur on October 27, 2021, 10:19:36 PM
Any thoughts on starting to rattle/grunt a bit?  Not seeing a ton of action from bucks in my spots - plenty of does.

If you're seeing doe, don't go anywhere.  Keep going back, day after day.  Stay well away but withing shooting distance.  When a doe gets hot, smaller bucks will often start chasing her around. She will only run from them but once the doe are really close to being fertile or are currently hot, the bigger bucks will come and find her, typically from the downwind side.  The scent must be hypnotizing. 
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Post by: Pete112288 on October 28, 2021, 04:14:48 AM
Around 1am Wednesday at work in the western edge of the Washougal unit I saw 2 bucks and 3 does. Both bucks necks were getting pretty thick. One was hanging off to the side and the other was chasing one or two of the does around. all within 30 yards of me at the time. Pretty cool to watch as they didnt seem to care I was there. Both bucks were on the young side for this area. Couldnt quite be completely sure of antler size as I didnt have that great of light. But both were in the class I call "pretty good size forky or smaller 3pt"
The whole time I could hear one of the deer continuously making a faint short grunt type noise. Never actually heard first hand a blacktail vocalizing. Knew they did, just never heard it first hand. Really was a pretty cool thing to watch. Also torturous at the time as the area I have been hunting is only 1/2 mile or so down the road and was FULL of does several days ago.
Getting out this morning through Sunday morning. So hope the rut action keeps going.
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Post by: fishngamereaper on October 28, 2021, 01:54:10 PM
Unfortunately I'm all in on this guy...or bust... he's guna be pissing off the local Forester though... he's hammering healthy 8-10" cedar trees... :chuckle: there's well over 20 tree's like this in a qrtr mile sq area... fortunately he's wise so the pursuit has been fun. I think he's locked down with a doe right now ..so will see.
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Post by: headshot5 on October 28, 2021, 02:02:27 PM
Unfortunately I'm all in on this guy...or bust... he's guna be pissing off the local Forester though... he's hammering healthy 8-10" cedar trees... :chuckle: there's well over 20 tree's like this in a qrtr mile sq area... fortunately he's wise so the pursuit has been fun. I think he's locked down with a doe right now ..so will see.

Have any game cam pics of him?  Not asking you to show them, just a yes or no.  More interested if you are choosing to go all in on him based off of his rubs or off a pic/seeing him.   
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Post by: fishngamereaper on October 28, 2021, 02:05:06 PM
Unfortunately I'm all in on this guy...or bust... he's guna be pissing off the local Forester though... he's hammering healthy 8-10" cedar trees... :chuckle: there's well over 20 tree's like this in a qrtr mile sq area... fortunately he's wise so the pursuit has been fun. I think he's locked down with a doe right now ..so will see.

Have any game cam pics of him?  Not asking you to show them, just a yes or no.  More interested if you are choosing to go all in on him based off of his rubs or off a pic/seeing him.   

Yes and yes...

Passion started over last year's rub scar's.. renewed with this year's rubs ....and....pics eventually exposed him.
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Post by: Fatherof5 on October 28, 2021, 02:07:59 PM
Unfortunately I'm all in on this guy...or bust... he's guna be pissing off the local Forester though... he's hammering healthy 8-10" cedar trees... :chuckle: there's well over 20 tree's like this in a qrtr mile sq area... fortunately he's wise so the pursuit has been fun. I think he's locked down with a doe right now ..so will see.

Have any game cam pics of him?  Not asking you to show them, just a yes or no.  More interested if you are choosing to go all in on him based off of his rubs or off a pic/seeing him.   

Yes and yes...

Passion started over last year's rub scar's.. renewed with this year's rubs ....and....pics eventually exposed him.

Show us the pics!!!!!!!  :chuckle:
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Post by: Duckslayer89 on October 28, 2021, 02:08:33 PM
Unfortunately I'm all in on this guy...or bust... he's guna be pissing off the local Forester though... he's hammering healthy 8-10" cedar trees... :chuckle: there's well over 20 tree's like this in a qrtr mile sq area... fortunately he's wise so the pursuit has been fun. I think he's locked down with a doe right now ..so will see.

Have any game cam pics of him?  Not asking you to show them, just a yes or no.  More interested if you are choosing to go all in on him based off of his rubs or off a pic/seeing him.   

Yes and yes...

Passion started over last year's rub scar's.. renewed with this year's rubs ....and....pics eventually exposed him.

Letís see him lol!
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Post by: fishngamereaper on October 28, 2021, 02:11:13 PM
In time  :chuckle:
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Post by: Duckslayer89 on October 28, 2021, 02:33:57 PM
In time  :chuckle:

 :chuckle: Sounds good!
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Post by: headshot5 on October 28, 2021, 02:43:48 PM
Unfortunately I'm all in on this guy...or bust... he's guna be pissing off the local Forester though... he's hammering healthy 8-10" cedar trees... :chuckle: there's well over 20 tree's like this in a qrtr mile sq area... fortunately he's wise so the pursuit has been fun. I think he's locked down with a doe right now ..so will see.

Have any game cam pics of him?  Not asking you to show them, just a yes or no.  More interested if you are choosing to go all in on him based off of his rubs or off a pic/seeing him.   

Yes and yes...

Passion started over last year's rub scar's.. renewed with this year's rubs ....and....pics eventually exposed him.

Nice, luck to you keep after him.
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Post by: Platensek-po on October 28, 2021, 04:07:11 PM
Unfortunately I'm all in on this guy...or bust... he's guna be pissing off the local Forester though... he's hammering healthy 8-10" cedar trees... :chuckle: there's well over 20 tree's like this in a qrtr mile sq area... fortunately he's wise so the pursuit has been fun. I think he's locked down with a doe right now ..so will see.

Have any game cam pics of him?  Not asking you to show them, just a yes or no.  More interested if you are choosing to go all in on him based off of his rubs or off a pic/seeing him.   

Yes and yes...

Passion started over last year's rub scar's.. renewed with this year's rubs ....and....pics eventually exposed him.

Well go get him so we can see this bad boy!!!!
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Post by: brew on October 28, 2021, 04:58:46 PM
Nothing to see yet around here :chuckle:
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Post by: trophyhunt on October 28, 2021, 05:20:53 PM
Iím not a deer meat fan, so the older I get the more I trophy hunt for deer. Saw a good, tall 4x3 today, not sure what he was up to but he stood like a statue for at least 1/2 hour.  I grunted at him and he just turned his head, Iím guessing he was in the rut but surprised he wasnít moving more.
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Post by: HunterofWA on October 28, 2021, 06:20:45 PM
Bucks are starting to move on my camera. Morning and evening activity seems to be the trend.
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Post by: WapitiTalk1 on October 28, 2021, 06:42:03 PM
Nothing to see yet around here :chuckle:

Ha, great cam capture Brew. I think you should invite him for dinner.
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Post by: HunterofWA on October 29, 2021, 01:10:20 PM
I'm going to predict I will shoot my buck tonight. Check back later  ;)
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Post by: 7mmfan on October 29, 2021, 04:01:17 PM
Saw a nice 3 pt briefly chasing a doe down the side of I5 by Stanwood about 1:00 today! They were moving!
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Post by: fishnfur on October 29, 2021, 07:07:15 PM
Wierd day in Mason,  Suddenly all the doe are out and moving around pretty much all day.  Lots of browsing around and just hanging out in the sun.  Lots of fawns near moms and  a lot of yearlings all moving in groups of two or three. I saw somewhere between 9 and 14 breeding age doe,  THey were moving aruund enough that it was hard to keep track of them.  None apperaed hot.  Much movement at 0815 - 1000, then again at 1:00 pm. 

I didn't see any bucks that I can confirm.  Saw a big bodied animal crossing the street onto the property at 5:00 PM, but no idea what the sex was.  I had to move 100 yard to try to find it in the brush but no luck. A few minutes later, I'd switched sides of the property to try to cutt off that aminal I'd seen  - again no luck.  Moved deeper in to the property and found a deep brown doe hangin' solo, doing nothing al all other than just standing out in the open.  Crept in to 75 yards or so and killed 20 minutes watching.  I was thinking I might have a golden ticket, then two more doe jumped out of the timber and join her.The all go into the cut and bed down there until last light came and went. 

Drove back to vacation house where I"m staying and fournd a doe and fawn in my drive when I turned in.  That kiind of day.
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Post by: HunterofWA on October 29, 2021, 07:13:02 PM
I'm going to predict I will shoot my buck tonight. Check back later  ;)

Don't hire me to predict your hunting success...
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Post by: Duckslayer89 on October 29, 2021, 07:14:25 PM
I'm going to predict I will shoot my buck tonight. Check back later  ;)

Don't hire me to predict your hunting success...

 :chuckle:  :chuckle:
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Post by: Buck Rub Jr on October 30, 2021, 06:51:26 AM
There was a city buck rut fest yesterday. 3x3 and 3x4 sized each other up quite a few times but never saw them get after it. 2x3 was on a hot doe and wouldnít let the other bucks near here. All in all there were 7 bucks here within 50-75 yards. 3 spikes, 2pt, 3pt, 3x4 and the big 2x3.
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Post by: Buck Rub Jr on October 30, 2021, 06:52:30 AM
3x4 sizing up the 3pt
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Post by: HunterofWA on October 30, 2021, 12:33:57 PM
Those are some awesome bucks! Crazy how many of them showed up like that!
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Post by: TheStovePipeKid on October 30, 2021, 07:44:47 PM
I had the same problem Buck Rub Jr had. All the bucks seem to hit the yards and none of them in the woods.
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Post by: fishnfur on October 30, 2021, 09:37:27 PM
Slow in Mason this AM.  Two shots heard, saw two doe at 10:00.  Windy from every direction.  Hit the Elevated blind in Kitsap this afternoon.  Couple of shots heard in the last 30 minutes of light,othewise nothimg moved.  Frustrating day.
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Post by: bornhunter on October 30, 2021, 10:34:47 PM
I took a dandy one this afternoon. I was watching a doe and the guy came in behind her and started ripping on some apple trees. He was just plain pissed off and neck was swollen pretty good. Two other bucks on my camera from yesterday were pretty fired up too.
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Post by: PolarBear on October 31, 2021, 01:13:25 PM
I killed a heavy 3 point this morning that came running to a grunt. Shot him at 20 feet.
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Post by: Axle on October 31, 2021, 01:54:27 PM
Walked my granddaughter across the road to her friend's house yesterday evening (10/30/21) for a Halloween party.
I stayed for a cold one and manned the campfire in the pit on their deck. Shortly after dusk, a buck chased a doe across their yard.
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Post by: JasonG on October 31, 2021, 02:15:38 PM
Has anybody been hunting 454? It has been slow?!
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Post by: highside74 on October 31, 2021, 02:59:06 PM
Buddy shot a 2x at 30ft today. They deer were running each other ragged in the thick stuff this morning.
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Post by: 7mmfan on October 31, 2021, 03:54:53 PM
Took a buddy out this morning, got his first BT. Big old old old 2 pt. Teeth worn almost to gums. Beastly body. Full blast rut, rubbing trees and peeing all over himself. 448.
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Post by: Viking360 on October 31, 2021, 05:41:46 PM
Kitsap area
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Post by: WapitiTalk1 on October 31, 2021, 07:23:37 PM
Geezus Viking. Quite the beast.
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Post by: Sundance on October 31, 2021, 07:56:40 PM
Thatís one of the most impressive 3pt WA blacktail Iíve ever seen. Love to know what heís score. I donít think heíd hit B&C, but I have to think he could be close.
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Post by: Viking360 on October 31, 2021, 08:10:58 PM
Toad for sure. Here's another.
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Post by: ljsommer on October 31, 2021, 08:13:36 PM
Took a buddy out this morning, got his first BT. Big old old old 2 pt. Teeth worn almost to gums. Beastly body. Full blast rut, rubbing trees and peeing all over himself. 448.

Nice! All quiet in my neck of the woods
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Post by: WoolyRunner on October 31, 2021, 08:13:48 PM
More rubs showing up. But no bucks chasing yet that ive seen. South Grays Harbor Co.
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Post by: redi on October 31, 2021, 08:54:24 PM
 Friday I spotted a loan doe and watched her pee several times in less than 10 minutes pretty soon a nice nice buck was with her. They were  580 yards away so we moved to their side  of the canyon. As we peaked over the edge the fog moved in. When it lifted up after about 10 minutes they were both about 60 yards below us my wife made a perfect neck shot dropping it in his Tracksz  The doe did not want to leave and squatted to P one more time before she slowly wandered off.
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Post by: WapitiTalk1 on October 31, 2021, 09:17:42 PM
Ya, theyíre starting to tweak pretty well during this pre rut phase.
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Post by: CJ1962 on October 31, 2021, 09:32:33 PM
I have a Mason unit tag that run from the 1st - 17th.  I have some chores that will probably keep me home tomorrow, but hope to get out everyday the rest of the week.
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Post by: highside74 on October 31, 2021, 10:01:44 PM
I have a Mason unit tag that run from the 1st - 17th.  I have some chores that will probably keep me home tomorrow, but hope to get out everyday the rest of the week.

Spent a few days in the north end of that unit this last week. Rubs just starting to get going over the last week. Didn't see any big bucks moving yet. Only 2 points.  Your tag should be a good one.
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Post by: dilleytech on November 01, 2021, 09:12:53 AM
Wife and I killed two decent 3x3 blacktails, on the 28th hereís was nose down cruising at 10 am. Mine was on the 30th with a doe and chasing smaller bucks away at 9 am. Some fantastic blacktail weather we had this year. Only hunted two days but made the most of it.
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Post by: HunterofWA on November 01, 2021, 09:30:53 AM
Okay, so no buck for me during the general season. I will post later this morning my thoughts and updates on rut action though!
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Post by: Spuddieselwwu on November 01, 2021, 11:10:12 AM
Was in the toutle yesterday way up high glassing down.  Saw a doe with 2 fawns cross a road 1100yds below us.  Grey GMC goes around the corner at the exact time they cross.  Stops.  2x2 comes up from the ravine where the doe came up from and crests the road quartering towards the truck.  Guys get out of truck panicking (forgot to put their orange on) and blasts the buck.  Buck takes off back down the ravine, looked hit - couldn't tell where.   Buck stops 70-80 yds down the ravine and hides (still standing) behind a stump.  Guys get to the edge of the road (still no orange on), one stands at where it was hit on the road...  One guy gets maybe 10yds off the road and stands on stump to look.  They wait for maybe 5 min, get back in their rig and drive away.  Had they walked 20 feet further down or spent any amount of time to glass - would have easily seen him.  Buck was clearly hit/acting strange (mouth hanging open, head low) but didn't go down.  We jet down and spent an hour + in that ravine hiking through the nasty stuff looking for any sign of him, didn't end up finding him, so hopefully he was just grazed and will make it through.   
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Post by: HunterofWA on November 01, 2021, 11:17:07 AM
Here's where the rut seems to be at where I'm hunting - bucks are seeming to be very interested in the does, but the does aren't ready yet. Lots of scent checking, and cruising but not a lot of daylight activity. Occasionally, a nice buck will show up randomly in daylight cruising, but the does don't always have a buck in tow.

For instance, last Friday a buck I call "Royal" followed a doe in on camera in the midnight hours. He walked circles around her and then bedded 10 yards from her for 2 hours watching. After that, he chased a little and then left. Doe looked uninterested and she and the fawn stuck around for a while longer. A few hours later, a young fork buck came in and did the same thing, nose in the air sniffing circles around the doe. He chased harder and separated the doe and fawn for the rest of the day. The fawn came back by herself during midday and the doe rejoined her late Saturday night. Not sure what to make of it all, but it seems the bucks are just scent checking and waiting it out for a while before checking other does. I'm betting daylight activity will pick up more soon.

Here are two hitlist bucks: the first is "Royal" and the other "Rogue." (Yes, named after a dog brand...) Would be super happy with either. I've got a multi-season tag so there's a chance at least!



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Post by: HunterofWA on November 01, 2021, 11:20:51 AM
Was in the toutle yesterday way up high glassing down.  Saw a doe with 2 fawns cross a road 1100yds below us.  Grey GMC goes around the corner at the exact time they cross.  Stops.  2x2 comes up from the ravine where the doe came up from and crests the road quartering towards the truck.  Guys get out of truck panicking (forgot to put their orange on) and blasts the buck.  Buck takes off back down the ravine, looked hit - couldn't tell where.   Buck stops 70-80 yds down the ravine and hides (still standing) behind a stump.  Guys get to the edge of the road (still no orange on), one stands at where it was hit on the road...  One guy gets maybe 10yds off the road and stands on stump to look.  They wait for maybe 5 min, get back in their rig and drive away.  Had they walked 20 feet further down or spent any amount of time to glass - would have easily seen him.  Buck was clearly hit/acting strange (mouth hanging open, head low) but didn't go down.  We jet down and spent an hour + in that ravine hiking through the nasty stuff looking for any sign of him, didn't end up finding him, so hopefully he was just grazed and will make it through.

5 minutes!? Wow. Hope that buck makes it. Had a similar ish experience helping a guy find his buck. We looked for an hour and a half and almost gave up but it was under a little christmas tree.
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Post by: Learo2000GT on November 01, 2021, 02:58:17 PM
Good article on calling blacktails as we move closer to peak rut.

https://pnwbowhunting.com/blog/f/calling-blacktails-top-10-questions-answers-a7abb46e7044?blogcategory=Blacktail+deer&fbclid=IwAR3mTisv15DYTi-UAkmiQEcYmZ_gRcSHUNkbfeS9AqcA0dw9mFz3qwsRq5I
I have watched his videos and listened to his podcast. Heís great.


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Post by: fishnfur on November 01, 2021, 08:30:39 PM
Here's where the rut seems to be at where I'm hunting - bucks are seeming to be very interested in the does, but the does aren't ready yet. Lots of scent checking, and cruising but not a lot of daylight activity. Occasionally, a nice buck will show up randomly in daylight cruising, but the does don't always have a buck in tow.

For instance, last Friday a buck I call "Royal" followed a doe in on camera in the midnight hours. He walked circles around her and then bedded 10 yards from her for 2 hours watching. After that, he chased a little and then left. Doe looked uninterested and she and the fawn stuck around for a while longer. A few hours later, a young fork buck came in and did the same thing, nose in the air sniffing circles around the doe. He chased harder and separated the doe and fawn for the rest of the day. The fawn came back by herself during midday and the doe rejoined her late Saturday night. Not sure what to make of it all, but it seems the bucks are just scent checking and waiting it out for a while before checking other does. I'm betting daylight activity will pick up more soon.

Here are two hitlist bucks: the first is "Royal" and the other "Rogue." (Yes, named after a dog brand...) Would be super happy with either. I've got a multi-season tag so there's a chance at least!

I was reviewing some BT estrus info the other day and remember reading that this type of behavior from bucks acutally hastens the doe's onset of estrus.   Not really surprising.  Nature's way of making hay while the sun shines.
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Post by: fishnfur on November 01, 2021, 08:56:21 PM
I struck out as well for the final day of the General Season in Mason.  I did not see any sign of an outright hot doe.  Saw three doe and two fawns by 1000, one of the doe had a spike buck on her tail went right by me,he following dilligently but not harassing her. 

Earlier, around 0830 or so, I'd gotten cold sitting out on the edge of a cut.  No action so I jumped in my rig (mobile blind) and switched sides of the property.  Hung out in the truck just glassing.  Big bodied deer runs across the forest road, nose to the ground and moving light speed, and passes behind a slash pile.  Saw it for maybe a half-second.  Slid out of the "blind" gun in hand and glassing frantically with the other hand.... 5 seconds, 10 seconds..nothing.  Stood on a stump trying to locate the (presumed) buck in the wide expanse of deep Bracken Fern, all dead, brown, and plenty deep to hide an animal.  Nothing!  Some dude drives by me, brakes, then backs up and rolls down his window.  He holds up four fingers and whispers "four point in there"! That didn't help the situation at all.  Rushed to the slash pile and glassed from there - vanished.  Completely vanished.  Spent an hour in vain searching the periphery of the cut for the buck - absolutely nothing.  Just cruising through I guess.  I keep hoping for more than a half-second look at these big bucks this year.  A hot doe would go a long way towards slowing these bucks down.

Not a bad day for watching deer.  Not a good day for killing one.  Here's a pic of the spike (screen shot off a vid) as he followed the doe past my position.  That's all I've got.



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Post by: HunterofWA on November 02, 2021, 09:03:19 AM
Thanks for sharing fishnfur - and bummer that buck got away!
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Post by: TheStovePipeKid on November 02, 2021, 10:43:57 AM
I had some bucks moving into my area last week, also in Mason county. There were doe moving early morning pre light most of the week. No indication any were hot. Never got sight of anything the whole season. Hoping they are moving more when late rifle hits.
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Post by: fishngamereaper on November 02, 2021, 11:35:37 AM
Pretty active the last couple of days...go figure right.
West Kitsap/ N Mason.
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Post by: Jrtishchuk on November 02, 2021, 04:57:18 PM
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Was with a mature doe an fawn.
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Post by: fishnfur on November 02, 2021, 08:14:26 PM
 :yike:  Big ol' bases on that buck!
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Post by: 85yota on November 04, 2021, 05:28:20 PM
Today was a wild day in 460.. was driving between jobs delivery  parts and saw 3 separate bucks cruising including this big old guy..
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Post by: brokentrail on November 04, 2021, 05:43:32 PM
I saw a buck cruising at 1pm Wednesday in 654, right down the edge of a thick bedding area and then crossed the road and kept going.
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Post by: HunterofWA on November 05, 2021, 09:13:27 AM
Got some broad daylight activity on the cams! Started right on Nov 1st - go figure  :P
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Post by: Sundance on November 05, 2021, 09:26:31 AM
Yesterday I saw (2) different two points locked in on does. The does were feeding with the bucks patiently waiting within 10 yards. I'd imagine pretty soon the big ones will move in to push out the smaller bucks.
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Post by: JakeLand on November 05, 2021, 12:09:46 PM
Decent guy
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Post by: fishnfur on November 06, 2021, 07:42:10 PM
Yup.  Decent alright.  Split main beam on the left?
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Post by: fishnfur on November 06, 2021, 08:19:14 PM
Here's my rut report - Third weekend in a row, ditched the wife and kids and went hunting Friday for a three day weekend.  I drew a Quality Tag for Mason, wehre I'd spent the last two weekends. Itseemed really slow early yesterday morning.  Absolutely dead.  No animals making noise or moving.    I tried both sides of the cut already. I had some firewood work that needed attending to and I was considering leaving for awhile.  I decided I'd sit and wait a while where a nice buck had run through last weekend and see what happens.   I was hidden in a large pile of bark left by the loggers where they de-barked the cut timber. I'd dug a nice little seat into the pile and threw some slash limbs and ferns  on each side of me to break up my body from deer looking my way. 

It was 10:15 or so -I'd just finished glassing the entire area, paused for a minute or two then glassed again.    Suddenly, there's two deer in the cut up moving, 125 yards out where moments before there was nothing.  I guessed that one following was a buck, and indeed, he was a small forkie.  l Watched him for 15 minutes and I kept telling myself to let hiim walk, but the thought of going home and spending time with the family seemed a better idea.  I killed him there on the side of the hill with my 20 ga. rifled slug gun.  He looked to be thrashing around a bit after the first shot, so I put a second round into him.  10 seconds pass after that second shot and an almost identical forkie walks out from behind a fallen tree's root wad just 30 yards out.  He's heading away as though he's leaving the cut. I think the noise of the shots at close range got him up and moving.  I wrestled out my phone out of my pocket to record him (or at least his butt) as he walked.  Five seconds later, a decent three point, a three-year-old or better, walks out from behind the same root wad and follows the first buck out.  Lousy quality vid made for poor quality screen capture - below is a pic of the three point.


Somehow that seemed a perfect end to the season.  I just can't figure out why the three-point was content letting the smaller forkie hang out with the doe on the side of the hill.  Perhaps she wasn't hot and the forkie was just a bit too eager. Part of my reasoning for killing that buck was that since the doe was obviously letting him court her, all the larger bucks in the area must be locked down with other receptive doe.  I decided on the bird in the hand...   Now that I think back, I'm not sure that I even saw any doe that appeared hot this season.  It certainly seems like the rut clock is a bit behind schedule... :dunno:
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Post by: JakeLand on November 06, 2021, 08:42:22 PM
Yup.  Decent alright.  Split main beam on the left?
yes split Drivers side , cmon muzzy season as heís on our property daily
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Post by: TheStovePipeKid on November 06, 2021, 09:30:45 PM
Now that I think back, I'm not sure that I even saw any doe that appeared hot this season.  It certainly seems like the rut clock is a bit behind schedule... :dunno:

I also hunted Mason the full two weeks of Modern with cams up still for Late season and have yet to see a hot doe. Got my fingers crossed I can tag one of the two bucks I have on camera cruising through.
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Post by: fishnfur on November 07, 2021, 11:46:35 PM
Checked my apple tree cams today.  Doe still wandering around with kids.  Five different bucks through the back yard in the middle of suburbia, all seem to be just scent checking and eating an apple or two.  No daylight activity at all.  I think it's going to explode in the next four or five days and bucks will be running to and fro.
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Post by: Sundance on November 08, 2021, 06:26:12 AM
We have a spot 1/4 mile from my house that always holds deer in an old orchard. The kids and I drive there frequently to watch deer, I use this spot as my bellwether. We have seen several does accompanied by younger bucks the last week. Normally weíd see a mature buck at this time, things should be popping off soon. In 2013 I had a quality blacktail tag, we didnít get into heavy rutting activity until the 10th of November that year.
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Post by: fishnfur on November 09, 2021, 01:33:25 AM
We have a spot 1/4 mile from my house that always holds deer in an old orchard. The kids and I drive there frequently to watch deer, I use this spot as my bellwether. We have seen several does accompanied by younger bucks the last week. Normally weíd see a mature buck at this time, things should be popping off soon. In 2013 I had a quality blacktail tag, we didnít get into heavy rutting activity until the 10th of November that year.

Agreed.  Down here, there's typically only one day per year when the big bucks are out walking around in broad daylight - somewhere close to 12 November.  How the doe all (or nearly all) end up being fertile at the same time each year has year always amazed me.. Estrus is said to be driven by photoperiod.  When I Google sunrise/sunset times for each day in Nov.,the days are shortening by 2 minutes per day, one minute later sunrise in the am. and one minute later in the evening.  Moon phases change in relation to date each year yet the overall population of doe estrus eriods converge in the next few days.   
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Post by: Twispriver on November 09, 2021, 06:51:43 PM
I got to watch it all play out from the window by my desk today. Out in one of the orchards there were two bucks, two does and two fawns in constant motion. Posturing, chasing and fighting. In the end both bucks left with a doe. In the last three days I've had six different bucks on the orchard camera but all the action has been after dark, today it was in broad daylight. The trail camera caught some of the action.
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Post by: Twispriver on November 09, 2021, 06:53:47 PM
more
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Post by: JakeLand on November 09, 2021, 07:59:31 PM
Great pics twisp!
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Post by: Trigger05-11 on November 09, 2021, 08:38:58 PM
Woodland, Washington
Last Friday, Nov. 5th.
Rutting hard
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Post by: Twispriver on November 09, 2021, 08:50:48 PM
After dark action
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Post by: elkoholic1 on November 09, 2021, 10:01:56 PM
 Found this guy hanging out with a doe in a pocket out of the wind 11/5/2021 think she was just starting to give the scent as she wasnt to interested with him, but he was keeping her in site.....
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Post by: fishnfur on November 09, 2021, 10:32:58 PM
Great buck Elkoholic1!  I love the color of his rack.  He's a great buck to end a season on.  Congratulations!
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Post by: elkoholic1 on November 09, 2021, 11:11:46 PM
Great buck Elkoholic1!  I love the color of his rack.  He's a great buck to end a season on.  Congratulations!

  THANKS...  I'm definitely happy with him...
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Post by: HunterofWA on November 10, 2021, 08:52:50 AM
Sweet looking blacktail, Elkholic1!
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Post by: blackveltbowhunter on November 10, 2021, 09:11:05 AM
What a looker elkoholic! Congratz!!
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Post by: 7mmfan on November 10, 2021, 09:12:54 AM
What a looker elkoholic! Congratz!!

I agree, very pretty buck.
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Post by: fishnfur on November 11, 2021, 02:53:48 PM
Still no real evidence of any real action on my backyard trailcams.  Doe still with fawns, smaller bucks coming and going in the last couple nights  Been about 5 days since I captured a big buck - perhaps their in lockdown.

My cam caught an unusual Blacktailed Deer vocalization by a fawn a night or two ago.  I didn't have the date/time set on this cam.  A quiet croaking noise is the best I can describe the sound. I've certainly never heard this noise before that I know of.  It is pretty quiet though.  You can hear it three times in this 20 second vid:

 
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Post by: b0bbyg on November 11, 2021, 03:29:43 PM
saw a bunch of does and yearlings scatter out of the neighbors yard an hour ago, watched for a while and in comes a spike.  :chuckle:

most just bailed out and ran off a few were going slower trying to get him to go away and watched him follow the others of across another neighbors yard.  That little guy was trying but nobody wanted to tolerate him much.  his spike antlers were shined up quite a bit since the last time I saw him a week ago.
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Post by: fishngamereaper on November 11, 2021, 03:38:43 PM
Imo it's come and gone mostly.

All my haunt's had activity 23rd ish till the 29th ish ....car v deer collisions also increased which is a for sure sign..

Might be some late activity but I think the full on stupid is done.
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Post by: fishnfur on November 11, 2021, 05:01:12 PM
Imo it's come and gone mostly.

All my haunt's had activity 23rd ish till the 29th ish ....car v deer collisions also increased which is a for sure sign..

Might be some late activity but I think the full on stupid is done.

The next day or three should prove you right or wrong.  I have no idea if it is done but I find it hard to imagine that it is.  These deer, while not well studied when compared to WTs and MD, have been studied enought for scientists to narrow down the peak of the rut to a period "in the second week of November", and it happens like that every single year. Fawn birthing studies bear out the same dates for peak of the rut. 

While I understand your belief that since you're seeing way less activity now than in late Oct, the rut must be over in your area.  I've been advocating the idea that many BT doe have a first estrus cycle that starts sometime in mid to late Oct. That first cycle seems to be much less successful in fertilizing doe eggs than the cycle that follow, but is responsible for that first massive rush of buck activity we hunters often observe.  My idea could easily be a load of crap as well.  It seems to be a little more complicated that this simple explanation suggests, but the general idea seems in line with observations.

In a typical year, the period when cams pick up the most bucks at night and an occasional one during the daylight (a rarity in my 'hood) is 8 - 11 Nov. Occasionally the 12th as well.  From what I remember, Bobcat's cams seem to suggest the same timeframe that I've observed (which corresponds nicely to "the peak of the rut').  The last two years were way outside the norm.  I caught big bucks still cruising hard all the way out to the 20th of Nov. - a full week later than had been the case for many years prior to that.  It would not surprise me if that was the case this year as well - though if it doesn't happen soon then  :dunno: :dunno:.  I will, (of course) keep updating as the days pass. 
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Post by: Buzzsaw461 on November 11, 2021, 05:25:17 PM
Imo it's come and gone mostly.

All my haunt's had activity 23rd ish till the 29th ish ....car v deer collisions also increased which is a for sure sign..

Might be some late activity but I think the full on stupid is done.

The next day or three should prove you right or wrong.  I have no idea if it is done but I find it hard to imagine that it is.  These deer, while not well studied when compared to WTs and MD, have been studied enought for scientists to narrow down the peak of the rut to a period "in the second week of November", and it happens like that every single year. Fawn birthing studies bear out the same dates for peak of the rut. 

While I understand your belief that since you're seeing way less activity now than in late Oct, the rut must be over in your area.  I've been advocating the idea that many BT doe have a first estrus cycle that starts sometime in mid to late Oct. That first cycle seems to be much less successful in fertilizing doe eggs than the cycle that follow, but is responsible for that first massive rush of buck activity we hunters often observe.  My idea could easily be a load of crap as well.  It seems to be a little more complicated that this simple explanation suggests, but the general idea seems in line with observations.

In a typical year, the period when cams pick up the most bucks at night and an occasional one during the daylight (a rarity in my 'hood) is 8 - 11 Nov. Occasionally the 12th as well.  From what I remember, Bobcat's cams seem to suggest the same timeframe that I've observed (which corresponds nicely to "the peak of the rut').  The last two years were way outside the norm.  I caught big bucks still cruising hard all the way out to the 20th of Nov. - a full week later than had been the case for many years prior to that.  It would not surprise me if that was the case this year as well - though if it doesn't happen soon then  :dunno: :dunno:.  I will, (of course) keep updating as the days pass.
Been driving logging roads around Granite Falls and yesterday was the first day Iíve seen Bucks out during the day. The one 2 point had his nose to the ground and could care less that I was driving right by him.
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Post by: p_m_clean on November 11, 2021, 07:14:18 PM
It's been really interesting as a new hunter with 3 seasons under my belt. Never really knew anything about the rut until recently.

Last week I saw a beautiful BT cruising through my neighborhood around 9:00 AM. I also found a nice buck Halloween weekend at like 2 am as I was walking back from my neighbors house after too many adult sodas. Got within like 10 yards of him before he ran off. I guess he could tell I wasn't going to be making any quick or graceful moves with the state I was in.

In the past week I have seen probably 5 or 6 pictures or videos from friends social media showing nice bucks chasing does or walking through peoples yards. Kind of funny most people have no idea what's going on, they just think they caught a random buck coming through their yard during the daylight...

Seeing all this action really makes me more interested in hunting the rut and going for some of the permit draw tags.
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Post by: WapitiTalk1 on November 11, 2021, 07:43:26 PM
Itís still rolling, just a bit different now . The pre rut for BT, as with most deer, kicks hard the last few weeks of OCT, into early NOV Ölots of sniffing, moving in odd times of the day (the bucks are pretty dizzy as their testosterone level rises). Most of the receptive mounting is happening now thru the third/fourth week of NOV.  Stay on the does, even just one or a few of them, youíll see a buck. I double dog guarantee it. The late modern season for deer here is a great time to drop a buck. Stay with it.  ;)
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Post by: Buzzsaw461 on November 11, 2021, 08:17:14 PM
 :yeah:
Itís still rolling, just a bit different now . The pre rut for BT, as with most deer, kicks hard the last few weeks of OCT, into early NOV Ölots of sniffing, moving in odd times of the day (the bucks are pretty dizzy as their testosterone level rises). Most of the receptive mounting is happening now thru the third/fourth week of NOV.  Stay on the does, even just one or a few of them, youíll see a buck. I double dog guarantee it. The late modern season for deer here is a great time to drop a buck. Stay with it.  ;)
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Post by: Sundance on November 12, 2021, 08:01:24 AM
Had to brake hard for a stout 2pt this morning, he was walking through town on a mission. Might be time to hang a stand off a telephone pole in downtown Kingston.
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Post by: gutsnthegrass on November 12, 2021, 09:04:10 AM
I had a nice 3 point go between me and the car in front of me this morning on Petrovistky right by the park. His nose was to the ground and didnít even slow down.
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Post by: fishngamereaper on November 12, 2021, 10:11:32 AM
Decent buck got hit last night local..my buddy grabbed it..kind of rutty...and skinny so he's been running for a while...seen some deer moving today but seems weather driven.
Check all my cams this morning. All showed major activity 24th thru the 2nd...one cam had 7 different bucks. Zero rut looking activity in 6 days. Could just be my area's...but they are pretty consistent from year to year...
And my big bucks survived general... :chuckle: :tup:
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Post by: fishnfur on November 12, 2021, 10:40:52 PM
Had to brake hard for a stout 2pt this morning, he was walking through town on a mission. Might be time to hang a stand off a telephone pole in downtown Kingston.

Ahhh, I get it.  I though you meant you had to break hard for a stout - like a Guinness.  It made perfect sense since a good beer will bring me to a pause pretty quick.

The rut is hard to gauge.  All we can do is best guess what is going on in their world based on what we see and hear from others.  Understanding the general timing of when each of the four stages of the rut occur (Seeking, chasing, tending, post rut/second (third?) estrus) gives a hunter an advantage in the woods.   Non-hunters are never really aware that anything is happening at all.  Rut activity always seems to wax and wane in the way tides rhythmically change over time.  Crazy hot for a few days then a period of very slow/minimal activity, then increasing again.  Once December rolls around, scientific studies say that roughly 99% of the breeding is done.

Around here, I'd like to scream to the city manager that all they have to do is put up temporary road signs on roads that are perennially problematic indicating that deer crossings are likely after sunset.  Three weeks of temporary signage would reduce deer strikes and expensive insurance claims substantially.
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Post by: Trigger05-11 on November 13, 2021, 01:40:24 AM
Woodland Thursday Morning. Seen this guy three times in the last week. Always hot on the tail of a doe.
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Post by: HunterofWA on November 13, 2021, 02:06:51 PM
Nice buck, looks almost like one I've seen.
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Post by: blackveltbowhunter on November 13, 2021, 04:28:01 PM
Look at those tarsals.....ole boy has been at it awhile!
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Post by: bigdub257 on November 17, 2021, 04:08:39 PM
Heading out for late buck tomorrow in Kitsap/Mason.  Anybody have any updates on the rut activity?
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Post by: Sundance on November 17, 2021, 04:46:23 PM
I live and drive through Kitsap each day for work, my commute route is strategically planned to pass areas where deer hang out. The last 7 days I havenít seen a doe or buck in areas where I always see deer. Iím guessing they are in lockdown mode at the tail-end of rut. Thick brush, alder thickets, and creek bottoms would be my go-to right now.
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Post by: fishngamereaper on November 17, 2021, 05:03:39 PM
No real activity in my spots the last week..

Look for the bucks to be going into feed and fatten up mode.
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Post by: BLH69 on November 17, 2021, 05:18:08 PM
 They are not done yet. The bucks are in lockdown with the does.
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Post by: BLH69 on November 17, 2021, 05:43:39 PM
My biggest problem is the so called hunters road hunting behind the gates. Most are from Belfair that I have talked to.
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Post by: fishngamereaper on November 17, 2021, 05:55:55 PM
Guess its spot specific..

All the neighborhood deer are back to normal. Does have yearlings and buck's are browsing solo.

All my cams between Jeff co, Mason and Kitsap show the same. Probably a few does here and there that are hot but I wouldn't call it prime rut. Definitely tail end. But it's no different than the last 40 year's I've chase blacktail.. :chuckle:
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Post by: HntnFsh on November 17, 2021, 06:11:55 PM
This guy was full on rut this afternoon. Only had 1 thing on his mind. And it wasn't me watching him. Wish I didn't have the sun causing a glare. He had the lip curl going on for quite awhile. Came back a half hour later and he was still at it!

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Post by: HntnFsh on November 17, 2021, 06:13:13 PM
His buddy was just a spectator.
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Post by: TheStovePipeKid on November 17, 2021, 06:15:47 PM
I'll be hunting Mason the next three days. What are the experienced hunting tactics for late buck? I've got a few spots, including a swale that I can hunt. What would be the best place to focus, brush and swale, or try and hit some cuts? I told my step dad if I could be in just two places at once for deer season I would have tagged out already.
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Post by: BLH69 on November 17, 2021, 06:17:09 PM
Same as it has been for the last 45 years i have been hunting them. Yes it can be very spot specific.
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Post by: bigdub257 on November 17, 2021, 06:52:26 PM
Thanks for the observations and recommendations!  Will implement the advice and hopefully report back with a success photo. 
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Post by: Watimberghost on November 17, 2021, 06:53:30 PM
Bucks were hounding does in a King Co this week by my place. Going to give it a shot sat/sun down south a bit, not King Co... Good luck all!
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Post by: fishnfur on November 19, 2021, 09:33:04 AM
I'll be hunting Mason the next three days. What are the experienced hunting tactics for late buck? I've got a few spots, including a swale that I can hunt. What would be the best place to focus, brush and swale, or try and hit some cuts? I told my step dad if I could be in just two places at once for deer season I would have tagged out already.

I've had pretty good luck hunting those swale areas.  Often, it seems doe appear in or near these spots (which then attracts the doe), or it may be that I have better success along swales 'cause that's where I spend much of my hunting time.  As always  (during the rut), finding doe is a top priority if you're scouting as you hunt. 

Personally, I'd say Lakebay had a better population deer than Mason.  No place to hunt there?
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Post by: fishngamereaper on November 19, 2021, 09:53:50 AM
Went out yesterday morning just for fun.. already tagged out..
Didn't see anyone hunting the spots I checked.
Saw a doe chasing a spike ... guessing it was momma opening up a can for bad behavior :chuckle:
And saw a three generation group of doe's feeding without a care in the world...not much for active buck tracks on the normal roads.
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Post by: fishnfur on November 19, 2021, 10:36:35 AM
Went out yesterday morning just for fun.. already tagged out..
Didn't see anyone hunting the spots I checked.
Saw a doe chasing a spike ... guessing it was momma opening up a can for bad behavior :chuckle:
And saw a three generation group of doe's feeding without a care in the world...not much for active buck tracks on the normal roads.

I went out Monday to my property in Willipa Hills to see if I could find any action.  Zip!  A few rubs but nothing moving.

In the backyard, the bucks recorded on 05 and 08 Nov. were the last ones moving that I caught.  Strangely, one of the bucks decided to rip up my Orcas Pear tree.  Damn near girdled/killed it.  The second week of November seems really late for rubbing.  Sadly, the cam covering than angle had dead batteries for four days.  I didn't catch that action. 
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Post by: fishnfur on November 19, 2021, 10:41:21 AM
Rub on the pear tree - can't capture all the damage 'cause it wraps around 270 degrees around the five-inch diameter stem. 


Just in time for Late Buck - last night, the four point returned a full 14 days after his last visit.  He checked out a doe and a fawn for a minute or two and apparently unsatisfied, moved on to greener pastures. 



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Post by: HunterofWA on November 19, 2021, 11:11:48 PM
Seen several doe alone the past few days. No bucks except for the one that I shot. But he wasn't chasing a doe.
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Post by: kball4 on November 22, 2021, 08:54:13 AM
Buck I shot on Friday was grunting pushing a doe and fawn through the reprod, not smelly or swollen but it was the first time I've heard a blacktail grunting.
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