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Title: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: cmiller85 on November 20, 2021, 10:20:10 AM
I'm not sure how I missed this, but is it right that the late archery is now the 24-30?

It's not noted in red like it should be if so. The fact that I would have had to miss the proposal, miss the discussion that would have happened here, and that it's not highlighted in red makes me wonder (hope) that it's a WDFW typo...

Can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: Jingles on November 20, 2021, 10:26:10 AM
Going by what is in the regs would say yes late mulies in some GMU's ends the 30th while other GMU's ends 8 Dec
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: Sandberm on November 20, 2021, 11:01:22 AM
Depends what unit you hunt. I have this and last years regs in front of me. Some subtle changes to a few units.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: cmiller85 on November 20, 2021, 11:16:00 AM
Depends what unit you hunt. I have this and last years regs in front of me. Some subtle changes to a few units.  :dunno:

Typically the season is the 21-30, not the 24-30th.

Just seems odd this change (21-30th for as far back as I can remember), isn't noted in red. It snuck up on me, expecting tomorrow as the opening day. Just lucky I looked at the last second.
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: Sandberm on November 20, 2021, 11:22:10 AM
Depends what unit you hunt. I have this and last years regs in front of me. Some subtle changes to a few units.  :dunno:

Typically the season is the 21-30, not the 24-30th.

Just seems odd this change (21-30th for as far back as I can remember), isn't noted in red. It snuck up on me, expecting tomorrow as the opening day. Just lucky I looked at the last second.

I get what you are saying. Good reminder to always check the regs. 15 to 20 years ago Dad and I went trout fishing in late February at a lake that had been open year round FOR YEARS. I can't remember why I checked, but i did and found out it now had a season of which we were fishing out of season. Whoops! Lucky we didnt get caught.
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: jstone on November 21, 2021, 07:39:07 AM
How many people will be out at the normal dates and not have read the regulation date change
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: BAR C3 on November 21, 2021, 08:48:29 AM
These dates have been in place for years! The 21st-24th are usually the hottest days of the rut. I would almost be willing to say itís been 10 years. There are a few units that open a day earlier, but itís usually 24th/25th.
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: bobcat on November 21, 2021, 09:34:56 AM
I just looked at the seasons all the way back to 2009, and it's been November 21-30 every year until 2021. I think I'd call and find out if that might be an error in the pamphlet.
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: Mtnwalker on November 21, 2021, 09:54:55 AM
I just looked at the seasons all the way back to 2009, and it's been November 21-30 every year until 2021. I think I'd call and find out if that might be an error in the pamphlet.

Man if it is a misprint itíll be a great 3 days to be in the woods  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: bobcat on November 21, 2021, 09:55:52 AM
I found these, and don't see any explanation for the change in late archery mule deer dates:

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2021-02/cr-102-202102023_season_setting.pdf

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2021-03/14_deer_general_seasons_ss.pdf
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: BAR C3 on November 21, 2021, 10:02:26 AM
I just looked at the seasons all the way back to 2009, and it's been November 21-30 every year until 2021. I think I'd call and find out if that might be an error in the pamphlet.
I guess it comes down to units. The Northeast units for whitetail have been 24th/25th for some time.
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: boneaddict on November 21, 2021, 10:42:22 AM
Should someone tell the guy headed to the entiat in the morning to hunt, or should we just let him have a couple nice days in the woods almost alone?

(No idea if he is driving to or hunting, or if these dates are for this unit)
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: Mtnwalker on November 21, 2021, 10:51:49 AM
Should someone tell the guy headed to the entiat in the morning to hunt, or should we just let him have a couple nice days in the woods almost alone?

(No idea if he is driving to or hunting, or if these dates are for this unit)

Looks like his QT started today so he should be good...
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: Apples on November 21, 2021, 02:28:21 PM
I heard that many hunters were shooting grouse on September 1st this year even though it didnt open till the 15th, always need to double check the regs!
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: Mtnwalker on November 23, 2021, 10:11:03 AM
Did anybody get a solid answer on this? I haven't gotten a response to my email yet.
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: cmiller85 on November 24, 2021, 08:29:53 PM
Did anybody get a solid answer on this? I haven't gotten a response to my email yet.

I've not heard either. At this point I've concluded that it was changed and they messed up not noting it in red...just one step closer to being done with this state.
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: Birdguy on November 25, 2021, 09:48:14 AM
I would assume it is another change needed to support "other" groups and not hunters. Had it been in red the backlash would have started in May when the regs came out. Being most hunters read the seasons and saw the change there were likely few in the field.

Definitely a thing to watch for in the future. Shorter seasons has been the trend for many years, if they slipped this one by be it on purpose or accident it could well happen again.
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: spin05 on December 06, 2021, 12:14:15 AM
We asked the local warden this question while over hunting them units. He said its to bring the opening dates with whitetail in line to be same day as mulies.   
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: cmiller85 on December 06, 2021, 07:01:55 AM
We asked the local warden this question while over hunting them units. He said its to bring the opening dates with whitetail in line to be same day as mulies.

Hmm, I wonder why that matters? Why not move the whitetail dates back to the 20th? Or, more importantly, if they are matching to the whitetail season, then why didn't they bump the end date to December 15th like it is whitetail?

These aren't whitetail units so conforming the season to a species they don't even want in these units doesn't make sense to me.  And then only doing so as to shorten the muley season (not just change opening dates)? I don't buy it personally.

 They're just chiseling away at another season.
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: blindluck on December 06, 2021, 04:52:43 PM
Right on, if they were aligning the season start dates they would add the days to the end. They just took 30% of the season away.
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: Rainier10 on December 06, 2021, 05:38:15 PM
Since I had the entiat archery tag I completely missed this change at first. I just assumed my hunting camp would be hunting swakane while I was in entiat.

Iím not sure how this got passed but I will be lobbying hard to get it back to the 21st-30th for next year
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: Rainier10 on December 06, 2021, 05:44:21 PM
The season does appear to get one day longer each year for the next two 23-30 in 2022 and 22-30 in 2023
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: spin05 on December 07, 2021, 03:59:41 AM
We asked the local warden this question while over hunting them units. He said its to bring the opening dates with whitetail in line to be same day as mulies.

Hmm, I wonder why that matters? Why not move the whitetail dates back to the 20th? Or, more importantly, if they are matching to the whitetail season, then why didn't they bump the end date to December 15th like it is whitetail?

These aren't whitetail units so conforming the season to a species they don't even want in these units doesn't make sense to me.  And then only doing so as to shorten the muley season (not just change opening dates)? I don't buy it personally.

I agree. The Muley herd there is hurting a bit. But if it was really hurting they cut back on the long rifle season of 11 days vs our late hunt of 7 days.  They need to open up some more areas is what they need to do. Spread out the amount of guys. Theres more and more people doing Archery now especially with multi-season tags

 They're just chiseling away at another season.
Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: dreamingbig on December 07, 2021, 10:31:05 AM
Since I had the entiat archery tag I completely missed this change at first. I just assumed my hunting camp would be hunting swakane while I was in entiat.

Iím not sure how this got passed but I will be lobbying hard to get it back to the 21st-30th for next year
Animal preservation.  Any suggestion to shorten seasons is getting the green light right now.  We wonít get it back with this commission.


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Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: bobcat on February 02, 2022, 10:00:48 PM
Looks like they're fixing this issue. See number 3 below:

Title: Re: Late Archery General Season Date Change
Post by: Rainier10 on February 02, 2022, 10:07:14 PM
Thatís great news
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