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Title: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Blacktail135 on January 19, 2022, 06:03:22 PM
 In the market for an older Toyota Tacoma. Preferably 4 door (crew), automatic, 4wd. What engine choice is best? Iím leaning towards V6. Would very rarely tow a 16í Hewescraft Searunner and thatís it.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: fishngamereaper on January 19, 2022, 06:13:26 PM
Bought my kid an 02 Taco with the 3.4 in it .. honestly the thing is a beast. He's lifted it and added 33s. Still good power. He's constantly pulling his buddies out of mud pits and ditches...would tow your hewes just fine ..I used it to tow my 22' Hewes when my GMC was in the shop once..no issues.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: BigGoonTuna on January 19, 2022, 06:17:27 PM
I wouldnít want a 4 cylinder Tacoma with an automatic.  The 3.4 V6 is a good engine.

I had a 1998 and a 2000, both 4 cylinder 5 speed 4x4s. Good trucks but not the best for towing. Anything much over a small boat will push you around.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Blacktail135 on January 19, 2022, 06:18:16 PM
Thanks for the reply. Thatís what I was thinking. Itíd be a daily driver and save the miles on my F350 when I can.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: MADMAX on January 19, 2022, 06:25:15 PM
I had a crew cab short box 2013 Tacoma with the 4.0 V6
Towed an 18 ft Duckworth and a 20 ft Jayco travel trailer
Great little truck
If it had a bigger fuel tank it would still be in the driveway
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: fishngamereaper on January 19, 2022, 06:27:40 PM
I just wouldn't buy one right now ..guys think they are made of gold. :chuckle:

Give it a couple months if you can.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: jrebel on January 19, 2022, 06:32:18 PM
Only bad thing about the 6 cylinders that toyota uses in their tacomas and 4runners is they are gas guzzlers.  I get better fuel economy with my dodge diesel.  My wife's 4runner averages 15-17 mpg. 
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: MADMAX on January 19, 2022, 06:37:31 PM
Yea but their fricken bullet proof
Still got the wifeís 4runner
Love it
My Tundra
love it especially the 38 gallon tank
Except filling it nowadays
Letís go Brandon


Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: jakeweb on January 19, 2022, 06:48:35 PM
Iíve got an 02 with the 3.4 and itís an awesome truck. Unfortunately I was tboned a couple months ago and the passenger side is pretty messed up. Still drives like a champ though
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Blacktail135 on January 19, 2022, 06:49:05 PM
 Thanks for the replies. Iím learning. Iíve got time. Looking to spend ~25k. One owner and minimal mods. Year doesnít matter. What is the ďhigh endĒ of low miles on these things?
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Blacktail135 on January 19, 2022, 06:50:44 PM
 Never owned a ToyotaÖalways been Ford (except for one Chev).
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: MADMAX on January 19, 2022, 06:59:09 PM
Same here

But sure have changed my tune
I sure liked the Tacoma it went anywhere and turned around easily on any dead end road
Dang tank was too small
I love the Tundra
Bought it brand new as a 2020 Sr5 crewmax
Out the door $44 k
400+ mile range

Double that $ or more for a new diesel
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: MADMAX on January 19, 2022, 07:07:34 PM
Here is one decent miles decent price

https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/d/beaverton-2007-toyota-tacoma-x-v6-40/7435088109.html
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Blacktail135 on January 19, 2022, 07:11:04 PM
 Wife wanted to buy me a truck for a retirement gift (retired end of September 2021). She doesnít like my 2003 F350. I do. Looked at Tundras but I decided that I like my truck and I need to upgrade my little tractor instead. Gonna get rid of commuter car and upgrade to a Tacoma for my daily driver.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: MADMAX on January 19, 2022, 07:16:29 PM
Youíll like it
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Blacktail135 on January 19, 2022, 07:19:36 PM
 Prefer the crew cab but thatís along the line of what Iím looking for. My trouble is that I never look past Skagit, Bellingham or Snohomish Craigslistís! Thank you!
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: MtnMuley on January 19, 2022, 07:23:32 PM
In your price range, I'd strictly look for the best 4.0 you can find. You won't find the newer 3.5 in a crew in that price range. At least you shouldn't, and I think the 4.0 tows better. I've owned both. Pulling a 16' Hewes, it will do just fine as long as your not running big tires. :twocents:
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: fishngamereaper on January 19, 2022, 07:28:50 PM
Prefer the crew cab but thatís along the line of what Iím looking for. My trouble is that I never look past Skagit, Bellingham or Snohomish Craigslistís! Thank you!

Keep an eye on Overland trucks in gorst. That guy loves his taco's.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 19, 2022, 07:39:03 PM
Last March we traveled and got a 2022 Tacoma as a rental, 6 cylinder, stick, and I was impressed with it. Didnít have any hills as we were in Texas, but drove the freeways, and city traffic with plenty of power.

As for cab room Iím 6í4 and I was not uncomfortable.👍

Wish I had the coin for one, Iíd definitely have one as a commuter/hunting rig.

Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: snake on January 19, 2022, 09:05:38 PM
I currently own a 2.7 4cyl. and a 4.0 6 cyl.   The 4 cylinders are gutless and the 4.0 6 cyl is a major gas guzzler as said earlier. I get around 13 MPG with mine. I got big tires on it but  :o.  I love the dang things so much though.  the 4.0 has a crazy amount of power. IF you could find the 3.4 I think you would be better off IMO.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Mudman on January 19, 2022, 09:08:53 PM
2.7. :tup:
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: fishngamereaper on January 19, 2022, 09:44:24 PM
My kids 3.4 auto gets 17-19 with 33's. And that's a teenager driving :chuckle:
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: headshot5 on January 20, 2022, 05:38:33 AM
Just a heads up the 2005 and 2006 4.0L V6's had headgasket issues.  Toyota changed the headgasket design itself partway through 2006 but still used up all the old gaskets they had on hand.

   

 
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Timberstalker on January 20, 2022, 05:46:23 AM
@thinkingman


 :chuckle:

Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: opdinkslayer on January 20, 2022, 05:56:10 AM
There are no ďgood dealsĒ on Tacos right now as my youngest son has been looking for a while. Heís had to rethink what vintage & how much heís willing to spend with the gross prices being asked for trucks that are between 10 & 20 years old. The 3.4 is ok, 4.0 goes like a raped ape but drinks gas & the newest model gets better mileage with good power. The newer trucks are superior in every way imo. Good luck in your search & be prepared to pay a premium price.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: MR5x5 on January 20, 2022, 07:59:21 AM
This :tup:

Just a heads up the 2005 and 2006 4.0L V6's had headgasket issues.  Toyota changed the headgasket design itself partway through 2006 but still used up all the old gaskets they had on hand.
   

Definitely V6 for the Gen2.  The shift schedule sucks.  Plan to do a lot of shifting in and out of OD and 4th gear whether towing or not.  Local guys are starting to develop tunes/flashes for the Gen2s.  Have yet to get one but am expecting it to be a significant improvement on both pwr and shifting.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 20, 2022, 08:04:21 AM
Just check the towing capacity. My 2019 TRD 4WD OR has a 6500 lb towing capacity. It's a V-6, 3.4 I think. I towed a 17' trailer for hunting no problem. Don't tow with the stock tires. Get at least a 6-ply, 10 if possible. See my beautiful truck! This is what happens when your Tacoma gets in a brawl with a Tundra. It'll be in the shop at least two weeks.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: b23 on January 20, 2022, 11:34:26 AM
pianoman, not to be argumentative but I put a set of 10 ply tires on the 2013 4dr TRD OR I had and it was a bit of a harsh ride to begin with but putting those 10 plys on made a huge difference in ride quality and for the worse.  In fact I took them off before I even had 2K on them and still have them sitting in my shop and would make someone a hel1 of a deal on them if anyone is looking for a set.

I don't know what the power is like in the newer Tacoma's but mine had the 4.0 V6 and it was decent-ish on power but nothing great.  Put a TRD SuperCharger on it and that made a world of difference.  Even with the SC on as long as I drove it decent I could easily get 18-19 stop and go around town and 22-23 on the freeway if I kept it at only 5 over but if I was 8-10 over it would drop to 19.5-20 depending how fast I set the cruise.  Just to see what it would do I made one trip to Yakima where I set the cruise 5 under the speed limit and it got a little over 24mpg but OMG it felt like I was standing still and that was the only time I did that.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: OutHouse on January 20, 2022, 11:47:50 AM
I have a 15' TRD with all the four by options but it doesn't have a thermometer. I haven't experienced the gas guzzling issue yet. I drive 225 miles up to the Methow from my house and it takes a little over half a tank. I'm not really a led foot so maybe that affects it.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on January 20, 2022, 12:00:41 PM
For your spec go 4.0 not even a second thought. Manual trans might change the game on the vehicle itself, but 4.0 has decent power, reliability, and no timing belt. I would look for a crew with the longer bed. Mileage is the only downside. Oh well
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: thinkingman on January 20, 2022, 12:55:08 PM
@thinkingman


 :chuckle:
You didn't think I'd notice? :chuckle:

I had the 2006 TeRD Sport with a 4.0 6sp manual.
Reverse ratio is a joke for any sort of backing up....Toy engineers must've thought we all want to drive 40mph backward.  4lo for any sort of trailer backing.

The engine itself was decent, I'm not sure the VVT was operational because I tried to hypermile it by shifting below 2500, which works because that engine has tons of torque.

Mileage was horrible with stock size tires.
2400RPM at 75 meant 17MPG.

Might as well get a real truck unless parking is your huckleberry.

I would look very carefully at frame rust and other corrosion.
Those things were made out of the cheapest steel known to man.

Plan on upgrading the suspension.
PM me for details because the stock suspension is completely worthless.

If anyone says they're getting even close to 20mpg, just nod and smile and look at the other posts that say otherwise.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: MtnMuley on January 20, 2022, 01:02:22 PM
2400 RPM at 75 MPH is great. 17MPH at 75 miles an hour is fine as well for me. I certainly don't buy my Toyota's for driving 75 MPH very much of time anyways. :twocents:
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Jason on January 20, 2022, 01:03:58 PM
@thinkingman


 :chuckle:
You didn't think I'd notice? :chuckle:

I had the 2006 TeRD Sport with a 4.0 6sp manual.
Reverse ratio is a joke for any sort of backing up....Toy engineers must've thought we all want to drive 40mph backward.  4lo for any sort of trailer backing.

The engine itself was decent, I'm not sure the VVT was operational because I tried to hypermile it by shifting below 2500, which works because that engine has tons of torque.

Mileage was horrible with stock size tires.
2400RPM at 75 meant 17MPG.

Might as well get a real truck unless parking is your huckleberry.

I would look very carefully at frame rust and other corrosion.
Those things were made out of the cheapest steel known to man.

Plan on upgrading the suspension.
PM me for details because the stock suspension is completely worthless.

If anyone says they're getting even close to 20mpg, just nod and smile and look at the other posts that say otherwise.
Broken record that nobody listens to anymore.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Jason on January 20, 2022, 01:05:29 PM
The 2.7 was a great motor. Not the most powerful but reliable.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 20, 2022, 01:15:22 PM
pianoman, not to be argumentative but I put a set of 10 ply tires on the 2013 4dr TRD OR I had and it was a bit of a harsh ride to begin with but putting those 10 plys on made a huge difference in ride quality and for the worse.  In fact I took them off before I even had 2K on them and still have them sitting in my shop and would make someone a hel1 of a deal on them if anyone is looking for a set.

I don't know what the power is like in the newer Tacoma's but mine had the 4.0 V6 and it was decent-ish on power but nothing great.  Put a TRD SuperCharger on it and that made a world of difference.  Even with the SC on as long as I drove it decent I could easily get 18-19 stop and go around town and 22-23 on the freeway if I kept it at only 5 over but if I was 8-10 over it would drop to 19.5-20 depending how fast I set the cruise.  Just to see what it would do I made one trip to Yakima where I set the cruise 5 under the speed limit and it got a little over 24mpg but OMG it felt like I was standing still and that was the only time I did that.

I don't notice a difference with my 10-ply except losing a mile or two in mileage. It may depend on the tread style.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Taco280AI on January 20, 2022, 01:24:52 PM
The Taco 4.0 isn't bad. I hated the 3.5 and got rid of it after a few months. They should have put the 4Runner's 4.0 in the Taco. Best full tank in the 4R, 24.3mpg (backroad highway stuff in the 50-60 mph range). Worst full tank 17.8mpg in winter. Average 20.4mpg for the first 30k miles, stopped keeping track after that on an app.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: b23 on January 20, 2022, 02:14:24 PM
pianoman, not to be argumentative but I put a set of 10 ply tires on the 2013 4dr TRD OR I had and it was a bit of a harsh ride to begin with but putting those 10 plys on made a huge difference in ride quality and for the worse.  In fact I took them off before I even had 2K on them and still have them sitting in my shop and would make someone a hel1 of a deal on them if anyone is looking for a set.

I don't know what the power is like in the newer Tacoma's but mine had the 4.0 V6 and it was decent-ish on power but nothing great.  Put a TRD SuperCharger on it and that made a world of difference.  Even with the SC on as long as I drove it decent I could easily get 18-19 stop and go around town and 22-23 on the freeway if I kept it at only 5 over but if I was 8-10 over it would drop to 19.5-20 depending how fast I set the cruise.  Just to see what it would do I made one trip to Yakima where I set the cruise 5 under the speed limit and it got a little over 24mpg but OMG it felt like I was standing still and that was the only time I did that.

I don't notice a difference with my 10-ply except losing a mile or two in mileage. It may depend on the tread style.  :dunno:
Did you notice any difference in stopping when you went to the 10 plys?  Besides the ride quality being much more harsh I noticed a significant difference in its stopping ability and you had to push much harder on the brake pedal to get it to stop.  Those 10 plys weigh considerably more and have a lot more rotating weight.

As for the gas mileage comment made by another poster I can't speak on behalf of anyone else and if certain individuals wish to hate on Toyota or Tacoma's that's their problem but I was always pleased with the mileage my 13 SC 4.0 AT 4DR SB TRD Off Road pkg and I could easily get 20-20+ on the freeway if I only drove 5 over.  More than 5 over, the faster you went the further it dropped but I don't any vehicle that doesn't do the same.

Am I any particular Toyota fan, not really.  I bought mine new and owned it for about 7 years.  Had the SC put on at around 2000 miles and I think it had right around 65K when I traded it in on my new GMC AT4.  When I bought the Tacoma I also had a 04 Super Duty and didn't need another full size pickup which is why I bought the Taco.  For around town it was great.  Up in the hills driving around they're IMO the perfect size and liked it for that much better than my new GMC but the suspension on my 13 wasn't great and between the weight of the canopy that I had on it and three sand bags I ran during the winter months it nearly bottomed out the suspension.  Also, these things are pretty light and during winter months it couldn't hardly get out of its own way unless it was in 4wheel drive and even then it wasn't great.  Once I put Blizzaks on and three sand bags in the bed that made a huge traction difference and was good to go.  It did hold its value better than about any vehicle I've ever traded in except for maybe the Jeep Rubicon I traded in on the Taco so that was a welcomed surprise.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: thinkingman on January 20, 2022, 03:43:30 PM
@thinkingman


 :chuckle:
You didn't think I'd notice? :chuckle:

I had the 2006 TeRD Sport with a 4.0 6sp manual.
Reverse ratio is a joke for any sort of backing up....Toy engineers must've thought we all want to drive 40mph backward.  4lo for any sort of trailer backing.

The engine itself was decent, I'm not sure the VVT was operational because I tried to hypermile it by shifting below 2500, which works because that engine has tons of torque.

Mileage was horrible with stock size tires.
2400RPM at 75 meant 17MPG.

Might as well get a real truck unless parking is your huckleberry.

I would look very carefully at frame rust and other corrosion.
Those things were made out of the cheapest steel known to man.

Plan on upgrading the suspension.
PM me for details because the stock suspension is completely worthless.

If anyone says they're getting even close to 20mpg, just nod and smile and look at the other posts that say otherwise.
Broken record that nobody listens to anymore.
Yes, you do... :IBCOOL:
Per the post above, 3 sand bags is about max payload for a Tacoma, thus my comment about addressing the suspension immediately.
I was always afraid to put heavy tires on it for the exact reason mentioned...Too much rotating mass for the driveline and brakes.
I ran P-metric Michelin LTX AT2s and they handled the weight of the Toy just fine.
10 ply or E-rating for a more robust truck is a good idea.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 20, 2022, 03:52:47 PM
pianoman, not to be argumentative but I put a set of 10 ply tires on the 2013 4dr TRD OR I had and it was a bit of a harsh ride to begin with but putting those 10 plys on made a huge difference in ride quality and for the worse.  In fact I took them off before I even had 2K on them and still have them sitting in my shop and would make someone a hel1 of a deal on them if anyone is looking for a set.

I don't know what the power is like in the newer Tacoma's but mine had the 4.0 V6 and it was decent-ish on power but nothing great.  Put a TRD SuperCharger on it and that made a world of difference.  Even with the SC on as long as I drove it decent I could easily get 18-19 stop and go around town and 22-23 on the freeway if I kept it at only 5 over but if I was 8-10 over it would drop to 19.5-20 depending how fast I set the cruise.  Just to see what it would do I made one trip to Yakima where I set the cruise 5 under the speed limit and it got a little over 24mpg but OMG it felt like I was standing still and that was the only time I did that.

I don't notice a difference with my 10-ply except losing a mile or two in mileage. It may depend on the tread style.  :dunno:
Did you notice any difference in stopping when you went to the 10 plys?  Besides the ride quality being much more harsh I noticed a significant difference in its stopping ability and you had to push much harder on the brake pedal to get it to stop.  Those 10 plys weigh considerably more and have a lot more rotating weight.

As for the gas mileage comment made by another poster I can't speak on behalf of anyone else and if certain individuals wish to hate on Toyota or Tacoma's that's their problem but I was always pleased with the mileage my 13 SC 4.0 AT 4DR SB TRD Off Road pkg and I could easily get 20-20+ on the freeway if I only drove 5 over.  More than 5 over, the faster you went the further it dropped but I don't any vehicle that doesn't do the same.

Am I any particular Toyota fan, not really.  I bought mine new and owned it for about 7 years.  Had the SC put on at around 2000 miles and I think it had right around 65K when I traded it in on my new GMC AT4.  When I bought the Tacoma I also had a 04 Super Duty and didn't need another full size pickup which is why I bought the Taco.  For around town it was great.  Up in the hills driving around they're IMO the perfect size and liked it for that much better than my new GMC but the suspension on my 13 wasn't great and between the weight of the canopy that I had on it and three sand bags I ran during the winter months it nearly bottomed out the suspension.  Also, these things are pretty light and during winter months it couldn't hardly get out of its own way unless it was in 4wheel drive and even then it wasn't great.  Once I put Blizzaks on and three sand bags in the bed that made a huge traction difference and was good to go.  It did hold its value better than about any vehicle I've ever traded in except for maybe the Jeep Rubicon I traded in on the Taco so that was a welcomed surprise.
I haven't noticed a difference in stopping or handling.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Mudman on January 20, 2022, 05:27:07 PM
If ya want 16mpg get a diesel truck?!?  :chuckle:  Toyota isnt a tow rig.  2.7l is perfect for running around and actually will get over 20mpg unlike a v-6 Toy engine. :twocents:
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Blacktail135 on January 20, 2022, 06:54:52 PM
 Thanks for all the replies! Iím still learning and still looking. Itíd be mostly a putt around rig with occasional towing. Crew cab, auto and reliability is a major plus. Mileage is not.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on January 20, 2022, 10:20:54 PM
What mpg are guys getting with stock 2.7 at say 75 mph?  My 02 3.4 would get about 19.  My 08 Tundra with the 5.7 would get about 16.5. 
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Taco280AI on January 21, 2022, 06:30:15 AM
...My 08 Tundra with the 5.7 would get about 16.5.

Tundras are liars, mine got about 1mpg less than the display claimed (simple math/app usage). The Camry I had was pretty accurate along with my 4Runner.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on January 21, 2022, 07:22:16 AM
...My 08 Tundra with the 5.7 would get about 16.5.

Tundras are liars, mine got about 1mpg less than the display claimed (simple math/app usage). The Camry I had was pretty accurate along with my 4Runner.
Yeah,  all the electric crap is wrong.  You need to calculate it at the pump,  miles driven divided by gallons used.   The 16.5 is manually calculated average after 10 yrs of driving I90 to spokane from the wet side.  Same with the Taco.  Don't believe what the digital readout says.   Also,  if running bigger diameter tires,  without a speedometer adjusted, you need to adjust your miles traveled.   Mine were stock diameter.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Stein on January 21, 2022, 07:38:38 AM
Can you adjust the display?  In my Ford, you can calculate actual and put in a multiplier so it displays actual.  They differ from the factory, not to mention all the stuff that gets bolted to them, tires, payload, etc.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Mudman on January 21, 2022, 08:36:02 AM
Dads old tacoma 2wd 2.7 auto was 16 city and 22 at 65mph.  His 3.4 is around 15-18 always.  The old 2001 s 10 4.3 did better mpg then old tacoma.  2wd also and WAY more hp.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 21, 2022, 09:05:40 AM
I guess mine's a 3.5L
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: thinkingman on January 21, 2022, 09:10:43 AM
Thanks for all the replies! Iím still learning and still looking. Itíd be mostly a putt around rig with occasional towing. Crew cab, auto and reliability is a major plus. Mileage is not.
The 4.0 drivetrain has been pretty reliable.
The 3.4 and 3.0 are known to have head gasket problems....https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/3-4-head-gasket-recall-23329/ (https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/3-4-head-gasket-recall-23329/)
People that know vehicles wouldn't touch a 2005-2010 Tacoma, Tundra or Sequoia that didn't have the frame replaced already.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Duckslayer89 on January 21, 2022, 09:24:32 AM
Thanks for all the replies! Iím still learning and still looking. Itíd be mostly a putt around rig with occasional towing. Crew cab, auto and reliability is a major plus. Mileage is not.
The 4.0 drivetrain has been pretty reliable.
The 3.4 and 3.0 are known to have head gasket problems....https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/3-4-head-gasket-recall-23329/ (https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/3-4-head-gasket-recall-23329/)
People that know vehicles wouldn't touch a 2005-2010 Tacoma, Tundra or Sequoia that didn't have the frame replaced already.

If you had the frame inspected and it goes out on you they still replace it. Mine was fine
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: opdinkslayer on January 21, 2022, 09:31:51 AM
Iím under the impression that thinkingman is a Toyota hater :chuckle:
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: Duckslayer89 on January 21, 2022, 09:49:06 AM
Iím under the impression that thinkingman is a Toyota hater :chuckle:

We had a 3.4 in our Toyota Avalon. Tons of power. No gasket issues. Sold it with like 300k on it still going strong. Also multiple 3.4ís in family 4Runners. Great engines. 3.0 was bad Iíve heard. No experience though.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: thinkingman on January 21, 2022, 10:19:35 AM
Thanks for all the replies! Iím still learning and still looking. Itíd be mostly a putt around rig with occasional towing. Crew cab, auto and reliability is a major plus. Mileage is not.
The 4.0 drivetrain has been pretty reliable.
The 3.4 and 3.0 are known to have head gasket problems....https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/3-4-head-gasket-recall-23329/ (https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/3-4-head-gasket-recall-23329/)
People that know vehicles wouldn't touch a 2005-2010 Tacoma, Tundra or Sequoia that didn't have the frame replaced already.

If you had the frame inspected and it goes out on you they still replace it. Mine was fine
That may be true with other manufacturers but Toyota has an expiration 15 years from date of manufacture, even though it's a recall.
They screwed me out of $1100 when I reported my 3yr old Tacoma had flat leaf springs and was riding on the rails...Toyota told me to pound sand so I fixed it myself and then, later when they were forced to issue a recall, would not reimburse me even though I had a history with them for the issue and a full set of receipts.
Just a sucky company and overrated vehicles.
Title: Re: Toyota Tacoma engine choice?
Post by: jjhunter on January 21, 2022, 10:51:58 AM
3.0 was a turd.  3.4 was a good engine.  2.7 mated with red 5 speed manual was a great combo for fuel efficiency.  4.0 was my fav.  3.5 is ok, but prefer the 4.0.   3.4, 4.0 and 2.7 are all high mileage engines with routine maintenance.

Iíve owned them all.  Currently have a Ď22 TRD Off-road.  Wish they still had the 4.0Ö

Not perfect, but hard to deny the long term resale. 
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Post by: buckfvr on January 21, 2022, 12:00:34 PM
I agree with all the good things said about the Tacoma.  I drove one from 2013 to 2021, while I still kept the ol Ford F-350 4 door..  My only complaint after those years are its relative size.  Lack of head room and leg room wore on me over time.  If you are 6' + (me) and have big feet (me 14ee), then interior size is going to get you eventually.  2 guys going hunting for even a day trip?, better have a canopy or something going on in the back because your gear is going to overflow the back seat area, especially in the access cab like I had.

I had only ever owned full size pickups except for less than 3 years with a fancy new Ranger (93), I guess I should have thought of that but the Tacoma was bigger than the 93 Ranger.  Anyway, Ill never ever have another small pickup strictly from a comfort point of view.   :twocents:
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Post by: JakeLand on January 21, 2022, 12:07:07 PM
3.0 was a turd.  3.4 was a good engine.  2.7 mated with red 5 speed manual was a great combo for fuel efficiency.  4.0 was my fav.  3.5 is ok, but prefer the 4.0.   3.4, 4.0 and 2.7 are all high mileage engines with routine maintenance.

Iíve owned them all.  Currently have a Ď22 TRD Off-road.  Wish they still had the 4.0Ö

Not perfect, but hard to deny the long term resale.
exactly ! My 2011 is up there in miles and the 4.0 is still strong , the new 3.5 will be exactly like the 4.0 if you put a pedal commander on it relatively cheap and makes it night and day to stock
And itís a killer trapping and hunting rig
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Post by: MtnMuley on January 21, 2022, 01:44:22 PM
I run a Pedal Commander on my 3.5 and it makes a difference for sure. I have a serious issue going on backing up on any kind of inclines. End up having to go 4LO and even lock it up at times. Something isn't right.
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Post by: BigGoonTuna on January 21, 2022, 02:30:16 PM
What mpg are guys getting with stock 2.7 at say 75 mph?  My 02 3.4 would get about 19.  My 08 Tundra with the 5.7 would get about 16.5.
my 2.7s would get 18-20 I think. Not sure about 75mph, not sure I would have wanted to go that fast in one of those things  :yike:
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Post by: T-Dozzer on January 21, 2022, 10:55:34 PM
Just a heads up the 2005 and 2006 4.0L V6's had headgasket issues.  Toyota changed the headgasket design itself partway through 2006 but still used up all the old gaskets they had on hand.

   

 
Huh.. hadn't heard that. I have an 06 4.0L.
How do I tell if I got an early one or what to look for? Has 180k on & no issues. From what I read the faulty head gaskets are failing with way high milage & most are able to get away with just a new gasket unless they need milling.

Have a 2020 4runner trd offroad limited & absolutely love it.

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Post by: Duckslayer89 on January 21, 2022, 11:51:58 PM
Thanks for all the replies! Iím still learning and still looking. Itíd be mostly a putt around rig with occasional towing. Crew cab, auto and reliability is a major plus. Mileage is not.
The 4.0 drivetrain has been pretty reliable.
The 3.4 and 3.0 are known to have head gasket problems....https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/3-4-head-gasket-recall-23329/ (https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/3-4-head-gasket-recall-23329/)
People that know vehicles wouldn't touch a 2005-2010 Tacoma, Tundra or Sequoia that didn't have the frame replaced already.

If you had the frame inspected and it goes out on you they still replace it. Mine was fine
That may be true with other manufacturers but Toyota has an expiration 15 years from date of manufacture, even though it's a recall.
They screwed me out of $1100 when I reported my 3yr old Tacoma had flat leaf springs and was riding on the rails...Toyota told me to pound sand so I fixed it myself and then, later when they were forced to issue a recall, would not reimburse me even though I had a history with them for the issue and a full set of receipts.
Just a sucky company and overrated vehicles.

They replaced my leaf springs for free. But itís not like they are that much better. However Iíve had this thing so overloaded on the bump stops going over miles of washboard road and potholes and it keeps on going. Iím convinced no other truck could go through what Iíve put this one through
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Post by: headshot5 on January 22, 2022, 07:18:33 AM
Just a heads up the 2005 and 2006 4.0L V6's had headgasket issues.  Toyota changed the headgasket design itself partway through 2006 but still used up all the old gaskets they had on hand.

   

 
Huh.. hadn't heard that. I have an 06 4.0L.
How do I tell if I got an early one or what to look for? Has 180k on & no issues. From what I read the faulty head gaskets are failing with way high milage & most are able to get away with just a new gasket unless they need milling.

Have a 2020 4runner trd offroad limited & absolutely love it.

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Not really sure on when they used up the old style gasket in 06.  Typical failure is gurgling sound coming from behind the dash.  Losing a bit of coolant (level drops).  As long as you catch it and add water/coolant it's not a big deal for warping the block (good to check often).  Gasket just needs to be replaced, mine went.  I have heard a huge range on failure mileage between 120,000 and 250,000 miles.   Mine went at just under 250,000 miles.  Having dealership do the repair is something like $2500-$3500 dollars, they pull the engine.   

Lots of folks opt to get a low mile engine out of a newer year pickup (from junkyard etc.), so they will have the newer gasket and not have to worry about it down the road.   

My truck has been solid, so I did my own replacement probably $1000 in parts with all the gaskets and parts getting in there (belts and rollers and manifold gasket, water pump etc).   Even at 250,000 miles my timing chain was in perfect shape so I didn't replace it.  It took me a bout 3 days to get it all squared away (working by myself as time allowed), I could do it faster now having done it once.  I have 20,000 miles on the truck since the replacement, going good.       
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Post by: C-Money on January 22, 2022, 08:18:34 AM
The 3.3 v6 in my daughters Solara sure runs good. Did they ever put that engine in a Tacoma/4Runnder?
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Post by: MtnMuley on January 23, 2022, 07:16:06 PM
Definitely not in the Tacoma's and I highly doubt 4runners.
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Post by: teanawayslayer on January 23, 2022, 07:30:05 PM
The 3.3 v6 in my daughters Solara sure runs good. Did they ever put that engine in a Tacoma/4Runnder?
nope they ran the 3.4,4.0, and currently the 3.5
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Post by: thinkingman on January 24, 2022, 09:57:05 AM
The 3.3 v6 in my daughters Solara sure runs good. Did they ever put that engine in a Tacoma/4Runnder?
nope they ran the 3.4,4.0, and currently the 3.5
Mid-nineties forerunner had the 3.0 v-6.
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Post by: PacificNWhunter on January 24, 2022, 10:19:30 AM
I have the 3.4 V6 in my '01 Tacoma. I've had it since 2005 and have had no major issues. It has always gotten 18 mpg on average.
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Post by: MtnMuley on January 24, 2022, 08:00:55 PM
I have the 3.4 V6 in my '01 Tacoma. I've had it since 2005 and have had no major issues. It has always gotten 18 mpg on average.

How many mile's? I have an 02 with the 3.4 and have 365K with no issues. Doesn't use or leak any oil. Far superior to my 3.0's
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Post by: Duckslayer89 on January 24, 2022, 08:09:00 PM
I put a new tranny and rebuilt the rear end at 200k. Wondering how many my 4.0 can last. It has tons of power
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Post by: T-Dozzer on January 24, 2022, 08:36:26 PM
I put a new tranny and rebuilt the rear end at 200k. Wondering how many my 4.0 can last. It has tons of power

What did that run ya? Seems early at only 200k.
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Post by: PacificNWhunter on January 24, 2022, 08:41:17 PM
I have the 3.4 V6 in my '01 Tacoma. I've had it since 2005 and have had no major issues. It has always gotten 18 mpg on average.

How many mile's? I have an 02 with the 3.4 and have 365K with no issues. Doesn't use or leak any oil. Far superior to my 3.0's

Only 230K, I have a small oil leak that I need to attend to one of these days but itís pretty minor.
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Post by: Ingwe on January 24, 2022, 10:14:29 PM
I have a 2017 Tacoma TRD off-road with the 3,5 engine. I get 18-19 mpg in normal driving. But we have driven it to Phoenix twice and both times have got a little over 21 mpg and that is figuring mpg based on gallons of gas and miles driven. We always have back seat full of luggage and other things. We are retired so we have lots of time and stay at 70 mph and donít try to go 70 over the passes. I also donít use cruise control going over the passes. I also have a 2003 tundra with v8 that gets good mileage and has a lot of power.
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Post by: mountainman on January 25, 2022, 03:02:09 AM
The 3.3 v6 in my daughters Solara sure runs good. Did they ever put that engine in a Tacoma/4Runnder?
nope they ran the 3.4,4.0, and currently the 3.5
Mid-nineties forerunner had the 3.0 v-6.
Don't forget the gen4's that had the 4.7 v8 option. THAT was the best ever in a 4runner!
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Post by: fish vacuum on January 30, 2022, 01:19:42 AM
In a 4wd crew cab, you're looking at a V6. If they even put a 2.7 in that configuration, there are very few out there.
Up to 04 the V6 was a 3.4. So-so power, good reliability, uses a timing belt. With their age, the valve covers will likely leak if they haven't been replaced already. I can squeeze 19mpg out of mine on the highway at 65mph.
05 to 2015 was a 4.0. Good power, good reliability, uses a timing chain. First 2 years did have some head gasket issues at higher mileage. There's a belief that those early head gaskets were more susceptible to failure if coolant changes were ignored.
The automatic transmissions in both generations were pretty much bombproof.
The 05-15 models tend to go through front wheel bearings.
The 2.7s are fantastic engines. With a stick they're peppy. With an auto, not so much. I've had 2 rigs with a 2.7 and could get 22mpg highway.
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Post by: Blacktail135 on January 31, 2022, 06:52:41 PM
 Thanks for the info!
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Post by: Rick on February 01, 2022, 07:38:01 PM
I didnít realize so many dudes still ran bias ply tires.
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Post by: Chanes8CWU on April 25, 2022, 03:20:00 PM
4DR Standard 6' bed, V6 4.0L.

I have a 2012 and it does everything i need it to do. Put a 3" lift on it and away you go
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