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Title: Woke gone Wild at WDFW
Post by: fireweed on January 26, 2022, 08:57:42 AM
Did anyone on the Wildlife advisory committee Zoom catch how the WDFW addressed homeless people living on WDFW land?  This was for a preview of the 10 year recreation plan (open comments now, follow WDFW links)

The caller asked about camping and stated that homeless camps should not be considered recreation.

The WDFW presenter chided that, "we don't refer generally to homeless camping, we talk about  Residential Camping"

WOKE alert! The Left Turn the WDFW has taken recently is downright scary. 
Title: Re: Woke gone Wild at WDFW
Post by: buckfvr on January 26, 2022, 09:54:10 AM
Can you find the name and contact info of the presenter ?  I am certain that person and their office of origin need to hear our feelings on that matter.
Title: Re: Woke gone Wild at WDFW
Post by: Cougartail on January 26, 2022, 09:56:48 AM
Soooo.. I don't have to abide by the time limits if I'm "residential camping"?

If so I'm setting up a permanent hunting camp. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Woke gone Wild at WDFW
Post by: fireweed on January 26, 2022, 10:01:05 AM
I googled "residential camping" to see if this was the new 'approved' and sanitized way to say homeless.  It doesn't appear so.  There was one article about "nonrecreational camping" that was more in line with what we were talking about.  So it appears that the WDFW just invented this woke-ism on its own.
Title: Re: Woke gone Wild at WDFW
Post by: Fishmaker57 on January 26, 2022, 10:08:23 AM
What do you expect......their office is next door to the lunatic in charge! At this point it is all about politics and hoping your budget isn't cut - science and reason have nothing to do with WDFW policy!!!!
Title: Re: Woke gone Wild at WDFW
Post by: buckfvr on January 26, 2022, 10:15:12 AM
I just think they need to know/hear that a very strong differing point of view on the matter does exist. They need to hear just how disgusted we are with them.
Title: Re: Woke gone Wild at WDFW
Post by: Special T on January 26, 2022, 10:17:40 AM
I bet it was recorded
Title: Re: Woke gone Wild at WDFW
Post by: Special T on January 26, 2022, 02:32:04 PM
Here you go

Title: Re: Woke gone Wild at WDFW
Post by: pickardjw on January 26, 2022, 03:33:14 PM
Anyone got a time stamp? Gonna try to watch the whole thing later but can't at work  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Woke gone Wild at WDFW
Post by: fireweed on January 26, 2022, 03:48:41 PM
Anyone got a time stamp? Gonna try to watch the whole thing later but can't at work  :chuckle:
1:24:45
Title: Re: Woke gone Wild at WDFW
Post by: Oldguy on January 26, 2022, 04:02:56 PM
I'll have listen to the whole video later when my patience has been revived. I have never heard someone speak so long without really saying anything of interest; oh I forgot Joe Biden.
Title: Re: Woke gone Wild at WDFW
Post by: WSU on January 26, 2022, 04:03:15 PM
It sounds like he said it's referred to as residential camping in the rules and is already not allowed.  Doesn't sound like a "woke" issue.
Title: Re: Woke gone Wild at WDFW
Post by: Practical Approach on January 26, 2022, 04:17:27 PM
You can come up with all kinds of plans with all kinds of rules, but unless rules are enforced they do no mean much.  The common theme on most of our state and federal lands is a general lack of enforcement presence to enforce the current rules.
Title: Re: Woke gone Wild at WDFW
Post by: pickardjw on January 26, 2022, 04:22:05 PM
It sounds like he said it's referred to as residential camping in the rules and is already not allowed.  Doesn't sound like a "woke" issue.

Agreed. The "woke" person is the commenter. Like she wants homeless camping to be separated from residential camping so homeless people can set up shop on public land...

Sounds like the response is reasonable. You don't have to necessarily be homeless to be a "residential camper" on public land. Makes more sense to be broad there. Camping longer than X amount of days isn't allowed regardless of your housing situation.
Title: Re: Woke gone Wild at WDFW
Post by: fireweed on January 26, 2022, 04:34:21 PM
Everyone knows that you can't live on WDFW land and there is a limit.  The problem is now when the WDFW closes public land due to "residential camping", nobody will understand that they are talking about homeless camps.  That wasn't a problem in 2020. 
https://wdfw.wa.gov/news/wdfw-extends-closure-morse-creek-wildlife-area-unit-near-port-angeles-year
Title: Re: Woke gone Wild at WDFW
Post by: GOcougsHunter on January 27, 2022, 08:41:58 AM
My take on this 10 year plan is that the WDFW is acquiescing to those who think public lands should be enjoyed similarly to the national park system.  Lots of signs... defined trails and roads... Look, but don't touch mentality.  Basically sterilize the entire experience.  The wildlife areas should not be treated like state parks or national parks.  Could you imagine having to do an online reservation to camp at a designated parking lot to go duck or deer hunting? (not specifically in the plan, but the WDFW is hoping to mirror these other agencies who have implemented reservation systems)  If you have ever used a wildlife area, you need to provide input to this plan.  Be smart, be professional, and let the department know what you are thinking.  Lots of people are lining up to severely limit what can be done on our WDFW managed lands.
Title: Re: Woke gone Wild at WDFW
Post by: saylean on January 28, 2022, 10:21:04 AM
They also do a thing called "land recoginition" that is basically acknowleding that the land they are on is "stolen" and belongs to "X" people, prior to starting meetings (internally).

As rediculous as this sounds its 100% true.
Title: Re: Woke gone Wild at WDFW
Post by: KFhunter on January 28, 2022, 11:38:54 AM
I will not comply if it comes to that.
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