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Title: Bringing meat and horns into Wa
Post by: MADMAX on September 23, 2022, 07:35:01 PM
Got this today
Good reminder


WDFW reminds those who hunt other states that Washington Administrative Code (WAC) 220-413-030 has been updated to restrict the importation of certain parts of deer, elk, moose, or caribou harvested outside of Washington, regardless of whether CWD has been detected in the state, province, or country of origin. Only the following items may be imported into Washington:

Meat that has been de-boned in the state or province where it was harvested and is imported as boned-out meat
Skulls and antlers (with velvet removed), antlers attached to the skull plate, or upper canine teeth (bugler, whistlers, ivories) from which all soft tissue has been removed
Hides or capes without heads attached
Tissue imported for use by a diagnostic or research laboratory
Finished taxidermy mounts
Violation of this rule is a gross misdemeanor carrying a maximum penalty of a $5,000 fine or one year in jail
Title: Re: Bringing meat and horns into Wa
Post by: boneaddict on September 23, 2022, 07:45:42 PM
Brings to mind the velvet thread, especially caribou
Title: Re: Bringing meat and horns into Wa
Post by: NRA4LIFE on September 23, 2022, 09:39:44 PM
Yep, that's why a boil pot and supplies go with me out of state now.  All meat deboned and packaged and frozen too.  Don't want to mess with Adolph Inslee.

I've said this before, this has got to hurt in-state taxidermists.  How many hunters can cape a head for a mount where it is still usable, then de-shmang the skull too (I can)?  Guess what?  Out of state taxidermist it goes to.
Title: Re: Bringing meat and horns into Wa
Post by: finnman on September 23, 2022, 10:15:04 PM
Enclosed cargo trailer
Do not wear hunter orange or camo while traveling
Never show heads or horns
Always debone or quarter animals
Always use bone saw and cut off antlers from skull

Use your brain and you will never have an issue.

Title: Re: Bringing meat and horns into Wa
Post by: Stein on September 23, 2022, 10:34:49 PM
It's pretty standard for most hunting states and will become universal in those that have cervids.  It's not convenient, but certainly better than being the guy that introduces CWD to WA.
Title: Re: Bringing meat and horns into Wa
Post by: Karl Blanchard on September 24, 2022, 05:56:57 AM
I'll never understand why this is such an issue for some guys. What does it take to carve the leg bones out of a deer or elk, 10 minutes total? Cap a skull and clean out the small amount of brain tissue. Another 10 minutes? So like an entire 20 min? Want to euro then jetboil some boiling water and with a stick you scramble that stuff out of there and *censored* it a few times. Another 30 minutes. It's such a small and insignificant chore.

Not that any of it is gonna stop CWD from spreading but it's one of those "it certainly can't hurt so why not" type of things  :tup:
Title: Re: Bringing meat and horns into Wa
Post by: cem3434 on September 24, 2022, 07:26:14 AM
I agree it's not a big issue for most of us, but other states like Idaho require evidence of sex remain attached until the animal make it to its final destination.  My cousin was given written warning last year by an Idaho game warden for having his deer deboned and skull cap cut as described. We were hunting whitetails in an either sex area, so we didn't think anything of it. Luckily, we had only field dressed my deer at the time, so we have a pretty lengthy conversation about how we follow their law and we talked in circles. I think that is why he ultimately gave my cousin a written warning versus a ticket. I have calls into to Idaho and we are still waiting on a call back to figure out how we adhere to their state law of leaving sex attached while adhering to our state law of not importing the bones or intact head. We are heading back for our annual trip in November, so I'm anxious to know what Idaho is going to require moving forward. Has anyone else had any luck on getting clarification out of them on this since the CWD is relatively new and they will likely have to address their game laws?

I'm actually in Idaho right now because I have an antelope tag that starts tomorrow, but luckily the CWD stuff doesn't apply to speedgoats.
Title: Re: Bringing meat and horns into Wa
Post by: Karl Blanchard on September 24, 2022, 07:48:01 AM
Non issue. It's nothing to leave a skinned testicle attached to a deboned hind quarter. Two testicles and two hind quarters. Dont need to leave one on each but it's too easy not to do.

And FYI, every western state requires proof of sex.
Title: Re: Bringing meat and horns into Wa
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on September 24, 2022, 08:55:32 AM
Non issue. It's nothing to leave a skinned testicle attached to a deboned hind quarter. Two testicles and two hind quarters. Dont need to leave one on each but it's too easy not to do.

And FYI, every western state requires proof of sex.

Haven't figured out why they need proof of sex on an either sex hunt.  It's not like anyone has anything to hide.
Title: Re: Bringing meat and horns into Wa
Post by: Stein on September 24, 2022, 11:35:10 AM
Non issue. It's nothing to leave a skinned testicle attached to a deboned hind quarter. Two testicles and two hind quarters. Dont need to leave one on each but it's too easy not to do.

And FYI, every western state requires proof of sex.

MT doesn't for some circumstances.  Even if you do, it doesn't need to be naturally attached.  They don't require proof of species either.  I think it was new a couple years ago and seemed so strange I asked a warden about it.  His response was "we don't burden the hunter under those circumstances."

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A person who kills a game animal in this state shall retain evidence of sex of the
animal with the carcass until it is processed. The provisions of this section do not apply
to a game animal harvested using a license with which either sex of the animal may be
taken. Evidence of sex does not need to be naturally attached.
Title: Re: Bringing meat and horns into Wa
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on September 24, 2022, 11:41:46 AM
I don’t understand why WA had to take it a step further. Every other state allows bone in quarters with no part of the spinal column attached, but WA chose to only allow deboned meat


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Title: Re: Bringing meat and horns into Wa
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on September 24, 2022, 12:04:26 PM
Non issue. It's nothing to leave a skinned testicle attached to a deboned hind quarter. Two testicles and two hind quarters. Dont need to leave one on each but it's too easy not to do.

And FYI, every western state requires proof of sex.

Haven't figured out why they need proof of sex on an either sex hunt.  It's not like anyone has anything to hide.

Harvest stats to monitor numbers of buck to doe kills...
Title: Re: Bringing meat and horns into Wa
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on September 24, 2022, 12:06:13 PM
I'll never understand why this is such an issue for some guys. What does it take to carve the leg bones out of a deer or elk, 10 minutes total? Cap a skull and clean out the small amount of brain tissue. Another 10 minutes? So like an entire 20 min? Want to euro then jetboil some boiling water and with a stick you scramble that stuff out of there and *censored* it a few times. Another 30 minutes. It's such a small and insignificant chore.

Not that any of it is gonna stop CWD from spreading but it's one of those "it certainly can't hurt so why not" type of things  :tup:

 :yeah:

At least they are TRYING to do something preventive and proactive instead of reactionary like with hoof rot.
Title: Re: Bringing meat and horns into Wa
Post by: time2hunt on September 24, 2022, 01:43:29 PM
Just got back from Utah took the Pot with us good excuse to have a good whiskey and relax for a afternoon. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220924/1cd54b28dcba56cd30b5e70e970e8a82.jpg)


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Title: Re: Bringing meat and horns into Wa
Post by: Stein on September 24, 2022, 01:48:13 PM
I'm way more bummed that I can't bring the rib bones back than I am about the leg bones.  No deer ribs or frenched chops = sadness.  It's a bit more wasted meat and less optimal cuts but not a big deal for us.
Title: Re: Bringing meat and horns into Wa
Post by: Widgeondeke on September 24, 2022, 02:09:50 PM
Just got back from Utah took the Pot with us good excuse to have a good whiskey and relax for a afternoon. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220924/1cd54b28dcba56cd30b5e70e970e8a82.jpg)


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HOLY MASS!!!  Have you shared pics of that monster on here?
Congrats  :tup:
Title: Re: Bringing meat and horns into Wa
Post by: time2hunt on September 24, 2022, 02:46:40 PM
Just got home Thursday night. I will throw a couple up in the elk section. This is my buddy’s expo tag bull


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Title: Re: Bringing meat and horns into Wa
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on September 24, 2022, 06:34:46 PM
Non issue. It's nothing to leave a skinned testicle attached to a deboned hind quarter. Two testicles and two hind quarters. Dont need to leave one on each but it's too easy not to do.

And FYI, every western state requires proof of sex.

Haven't figured out why they need proof of sex on an either sex hunt.  It's not like anyone has anything to hide.

Harvest stats to monitor numbers of buck to doe kills...

Easy enough to mark that in your hunter report.  Leaving proof of sex until you get home doesn't tell them anything unless they happen to check the animal in the field.

Karl, Alaska doesn't require proof of sex on either sex hunts.
Title: Re: Bringing meat and horns into Wa
Post by: Karl Blanchard on September 25, 2022, 02:15:46 PM
I'm FULLY aware there are some exceptions. Point is it's such an easy thing to do it's not even worth thinking about. Just leave POS attached and you're good to go. 
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