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The angle of the Dangle according to today's rangefinders.
« on: June 28, 2013, 08:38:41 AM »
Does anyone have any charts that reflect the yardage differences vs the angle difference vs point of impact difference for an archer?

I'm trying to decide if I want a newfangled range finder or if I will stick with my non incline model I already have.

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Re: The angle of the Dangle according to today's rangefinders.
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2013, 08:44:38 AM »
Always shoot for the horizontal distance to the target. Think the 3-4-5 right triangel. If you are looking along the long 50 side but up or down hill. You would shoot the for the distance of the shorter side...whichever is horizontal.

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Re: The angle of the Dangle according to today's rangefinders.
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2013, 08:50:35 AM »
There are several range finders out there that give horizontal distance to target.
I use them to determine the height of trees using equilateral triangle method.
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Re: The angle of the Dangle according to today's rangefinders.
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2013, 08:54:33 AM »
I only have a straight rangefinder. Doesn't correct for angle. I just know to cut some yardage for steep and long shots.

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Re: The angle of the Dangle according to today's rangefinders.
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2013, 09:03:06 AM »
I agree and understand the horizontally range the tree next to it deal, but it's hard to range open air when there are no trees.

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Re: The angle of the Dangle according to today's rangefinders.
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2013, 09:05:26 AM »
There are several range finders out there that give horizontal distance to target.
I use them to determine the height of trees using equilateral triangle method.


Please explain this method

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Re: The angle of the Dangle according to today's rangefinders.
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2013, 09:45:47 AM »
When shooting UP or DOWN hill you will ALWAYS shoot a distance LESS than line of sight. the question is how much. Us the RIGHT TRIANGLE calculator to figure it out.

http://www.csgnetwork.com/righttricalc.html
the 3 4 5 referance is refering to the ratio of rise and run vs the line of site if you line of site is 50 yards the elevation gain/lose is 30 yards the the true flat yardage is 40 yards....

all that a new range finder does is measure the angle and make the calculation for you. you can however run some basics and practice.

Silver Arrow Bowmen in Moutn vernon has a GREAT walkthrough course to practice you up and down shots. www.silverarrowbowmen.com We are also on facebook
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Re: The angle of the Dangle according to today's rangefinders.
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2013, 11:26:45 AM »
Since in open country there is no way to be accurate with the elevation it looks like I need a new rangefinder.

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Re: The angle of the Dangle according to today's rangefinders.
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2013, 12:12:52 PM »
There are several range finders out there that give horizontal distance to target.
I use them to determine the height of trees using equilateral triangle method.
Please explain this method
First, let me say, the tree height method is for when I have my chain saw out and need to know where the tip the tree will fall.
To determine the height of the tree, walk to where the tree top is 45 degrees from where you are. The horizontal distance to the tree is the tree height.
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Re: The angle of the Dangle according to today's rangefinders.
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2013, 04:19:09 PM »
If your hunting setup is shoots less than 300fps it might be worth it. If over its kinda pointless as none of the angle compensating range finders I have seen work for any bow shooting that fast.
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Re: The angle of the Dangle according to today's rangefinders.
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2013, 07:15:44 PM »
If your hunting setup is shoots less than 300fps it might be worth it. If over its kinda pointless as none of the angle compensating range finders I have seen work for any bow shooting that fast.

I believe most bows are shooting less than 300fps in WA with a legal hunting weight arrow.
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Re: The angle of the Dangle according to today's rangefinders.
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2013, 07:28:33 PM »
Not with my Bowtech, of course I'm shooting long arrows so that helps with total arrow weight.

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Re: The angle of the Dangle according to today's rangefinders.
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2013, 10:00:22 AM »
Determining the true horizontal distance has NOTHING to do with how fast you bow is.  :twocents: The speed of you bow DOES make a huge difference in how acurate you are in judging distance.
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Re: The angle of the Dangle according to today's rangefinders.
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2013, 08:23:07 PM »
Practice judging.  Get on a hillside with trees, or in a tree stand.  Range the base of a tree.  Guess the horizontal distance, then range tree at the level you are and see how close.

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Re: The angle of the Dangle according to today's rangefinders.
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2013, 08:28:58 PM »
Determining the true horizontal distance has NOTHING to do with how fast you bow is.  :twocents: The speed of you bow DOES make a huge difference in how acurate you are in judging distance.
I'll agree with Special T but add one thing- the speed of your bow doesnt help you judge distance, but only reduces the difference in point of impact when you do get it wrong.
Bottom line is - you need to know exactly where your arrow hits on flat land, and be able to be as accurate as possible on non-flat land in judging horizontal distance to target.
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