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490 signatures as of this morning.  Keep them coming!

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We are hung up at 494.....come on, give me 6 more this morning so we can reach the 1/2 way point!

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I can guarantee there will be retaliation to some who sign. I have had it happen on a person basis with WDFW. I stood up for the Pike fishery on this side of the state a few years ago and got scr**wd by them this past year. I don't see any permits in my future either lol.. I don't care what they do you have to stand up for what you believe in. Don't we live in the United States where you can voice your opinion without retaliation.
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We are hung up at 494.....come on, give me 6 more this morning so we can reach the 1/2 way point!

ucwarden, i bumped it to 496.  But I have a comment that I would like to make here.  I don't know that 1000 signatures is going to be significant enough to get the reaction you want as compared to the number of licenses sold or even by the number of voters. 

I assume you already know this, but you are going to have to pull the media card as well as get some buy in from some legislators.  If the legislators from Eastern Washington are on board then you may have the political capital you need to get some real momentum in Olympia.

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497  :tup:
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I stopped giving them $ for draws a quite some time back... I can only assume that unless they start going door to door to shake people down, screwing you on permits is about all they can do.  :twocents:
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UC, are you still selling copies of the book?  I'm interested in buying one.

Yep, just go to:    www.operationcody.com    or come see me at the bighorn show this weekend

I'll be workin the BigHorn show on Thur, where will I find you?

Spent most of my $$ on huntin, fishin & retrievin dogs, the rest I just pretty much wasted.

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We are hung up at 494.....come on, give me 6 more this morning so we can reach the 1/2 way point!

ucwarden, i bumped it to 496.  But I have a comment that I would like to make here.  I don't know that 1000 signatures is going to be significant enough to get the reaction you want as compared to the number of licenses sold or even by the number of voters. 

I assume you already know this, but you are going to have to pull the media card as well as get some buy in from some legislators.  If the legislators from Eastern Washington are on board then you may have the political capital you need to get some real momentum in Olympia.

I do realize that, but it's not the quantity but the speed in which it was reached.  If I can 1,000 in a week (which it looks like we will have), that speaks very loudly.  I will keep going, even after we have 1,000, but 1,000 in one week should get anyone's attention.

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UC, are you still selling copies of the book?  I'm interested in buying one.

Yep, just go to:    www.operationcody.com    or come see me at the bighorn show this weekend

I'll be workin the BigHorn show on Thur, where will I find you?

I think it's booth #57, it's over by the beer garden.  I will be there the whole time except of Friday (I have to give a bunch of polygraphs until 5pm on Friday).

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Keep it alive !!!!!!!!!!!! :tup:

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I don't see this going anywhere unless you can clearly articulate what specifically these guys have done (or not done) and provide strong corroborating evidence to support your claims.  You also need to articulate your solutions to the problems you perceive.  This needs to be part of your petition IMO.  I also have to ask...did you discuss your concerns with the Wildlife Commission or is this just an out of the blue petition?  There are some 500,000 hunters/anglers in WDFW's license database...1,000 signatures is 0.2% of those folks.

Right now, and I read your book and have frustrations about the level of incompetence in WDFW enforcement...lots of frustrations, I think its pretty easy to just label you as a disgruntled former employee trying to get back at your old bosses/employer.  I think there are more effective ways to bring about change than a mass petition and I would be curious if you or others who want this change have explored other options.  :twocents:   
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If you know of a more effective way to bring change, by all means , please share it with us.............

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If you know of a more effective way to bring change, by all means , please share it with us.............
I don't know what else ucwarden has tried.  But a letter signed by the heads of multiple conservation organizations representing large numbers of hunters, elected officials (state legislators, commissioners etc.) would probably get a lot more notice/attention than a random petition delivered to the commission.
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If you know of a more effective way to bring change, by all means , please share it with us.............
:yeah: :yeah: everyone is open to suggestions, atleast UCWARDEN isnt sittn on his thumbs cryin about what could be and what should be, he is stepping up, we all have are gripes, has anyone stepped up to this point other than sending of emails  :dunno:
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I don't know what else ucwarden has tried.  But a letter signed by the heads of multiple conservation organizations representing large numbers of hunters, elected officials (state legislators, commissioners etc.) would probably get a lot more notice/attention than a random petition delivered to the commission.

You get on that, and we'll have your back, just like we have ucs' back.....since hes the only one getting after it, we go with him.   

 


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