Kind of what I was thinking. Sort of why I was looking at the first form. I might give it a whirl. Thats part of the fun. I have an open mouth elk to practice on in the garage right now. I wish I would have alf the success that you do in regards to the mount turning out. Your work is awesome. Practice makes perfect. I have to find my Mckenzie catalog and see what they have. Its been filed somewhere. Then I need to figure out how I am going to finanace this operation.