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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #60 on: November 07, 2014, 12:46:17 PM »
I think this story serves a great public service...it puts to bed the notion that a hunter or any person can't defend themselves without reasonable fear of prosecution.  If any person/animal threatens you with physical harm/death you are absolutely justified in defending yourself and it should be really clear that WDFW is not hell bent on finding a way to crucify you for taking such action with dangerous wildlife.

The notion that all outdoorsmen or hunters should expect an encounter like this are way off base from reality.  Like other dangerous wildlife, it is always possible and something to consider.

The one thing that seperates potential wolf attacks from other predator attacks is the fact that WA's wolves are not hunted. I wonder how many wolf attacks will be permitted before WA will be allowed to hunt wolves?

http://graywolfnews.com/pdf/Geist_when-do-wolves-become-dangerous-to-humans.pdf

Apparently the bear that attacked the Cowlitz County hunter earlier this season didn't get the notice.

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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #61 on: November 11, 2014, 06:44:50 PM »
It always amazes me, WHERE, does the government FIND all these knowledgeable employee's in HIGH positions of employment!?? :yike:

It seems nowadays you bump into them on a regular basis!!!  EVERYWHERE!! :o
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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #62 on: November 11, 2014, 08:16:33 PM »
What really stumps me is that is the WDFW took a more "reasonable" approach and let people know that it was OK to shoot wolves stocking thier livestock, themselves or pets MANY good things would come of it.
1 Wolves would learn to avoid people
2 people would feel supported.
3 not that many wolves would die
4 Perceptions of wolves would be different.

ANY time you get something crammed down your throat you resent it. Mainly because you have no choice. Wolves were going to be here despite many of us that dont want them. If you look at ID and MT Wolves learn pretty quick how to stay alive when hunted. All this state is doing is promoting hostility and naked aggression by wolves. I guess im just surprised because the genie is out of the bottle NO MATTER WHAT, but the WDFW still cannot figure out a way to not get caught in the crossfire.
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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #63 on: November 12, 2014, 12:37:35 AM »
I'm surprised he reported it. I know I wouldn't have especially after all the storied you read about people shooting a wolf or griz in self defense or defending his family and then reporting it. Being prosecuted and then receive death threats by liberals all because of it also. I'm convinced that your better off just staying quiet. Its sad you can't do the legal and right thing without being afraid your life could be ruined.

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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #64 on: November 12, 2014, 12:49:00 AM »
 :yeah:

I'm not sure how the mandatory reporting requirement passes constitutional muster given the 5th Amendment protection against self incrimination. But the Bill of Rights is losing favor.. In some parts of the country. 

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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #65 on: November 12, 2014, 07:13:31 PM »
I think this story serves a great public service...it puts to bed the notion that a hunter or any person can't defend themselves without reasonable fear of prosecution.  If any person/animal threatens you with physical harm/death you are absolutely justified in defending yourself and it should be really clear that WDFW is not hell bent on finding a way to crucify you for taking such action with dangerous wildlife.

The notion that all outdoorsmen or hunters should expect an encounter like this are way off base from reality.  Like other dangerous wildlife, it is always possible and something to consider.

The one thing that seperates potential wolf attacks from other predator attacks is the fact that WA's wolves are not hunted. I wonder how many wolf attacks will be permitted before WA will be allowed to hunt wolves?

http://graywolfnews.com/pdf/Geist_when-do-wolves-become-dangerous-to-humans.pdf
we will be able to hunt them when Revenues fall because the elk and deer are numbers are depleted

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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #66 on: November 13, 2014, 07:38:01 AM »
What really stumps me is that is the WDFW took a more "reasonable" approach and let people know that it was OK to shoot wolves stocking thier livestock, themselves or pets MANY good things would come of it.
1 Wolves would learn to avoid people
2 people would feel supported.
3 not that many wolves would die
4 Perceptions of wolves would be different.

ANY time you get something crammed down your throat you resent it. Mainly because you have no choice. Wolves were going to be here despite many of us that dont want them. If you look at ID and MT Wolves learn pretty quick how to stay alive when hunted. All this state is doing is promoting hostility and naked aggression by wolves. I guess im just surprised because the genie is out of the bottle NO MATTER WHAT, but the WDFW still cannot figure out a way to not get caught in the crossfire.

5)  Everyone would buy a wolf tag.  Make it $20 and they'd have a bunch of money to reconstitute habitat for bats and owls across the land.
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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #67 on: November 13, 2014, 09:40:07 AM »
The people that allowed us to hunt a few years ago in N ID said the only thing we have to do to secure permission is show them our wolf tag!
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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #68 on: November 13, 2014, 09:55:38 AM »
“I think there’s probably more likelihood of being injured by a moose than a pack of wolves,” he said.:tup:

What the Heck is this Crap? I have been in the woods all my life and have never even had the thought of a Moose attacking me!  And I grew up in Utah where we have Moose all over. I have seen Dozens of them when we have been hiking up in the mountains. :dunno:

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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #69 on: November 13, 2014, 10:11:19 AM »
“I think there’s probably more likelihood of being injured by a moose than a pack of wolves,” he said.:tup:

What the Heck is this Crap? I have been in the woods all my life and have never even had the thought of a Moose attacking me!  And I grew up in Utah where we have Moose all over. I have seen Dozens of them when we have been hiking up in the mountains. :dunno:

What Dumb Arse thought that was a good response? :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

Stupid is as stupid Does.  :bdid:

Colorado moose attack injures 2 women

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/20/us/colorado-moose-attack/

Woman injured in moose attack released from hospital
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http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/woman-injured-in-moose-attack-released-from-hospital/20297932

Moose Attacks In Alaska Prompt Officials To Urge Caution: 'Assume Every Moose Is A Serial Killer'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/27/moose-attacks-alaska-serial-killer_n_868041.html

Moose Attacks Snowmobiler - Defends With Glock - Warning Graphic

http://www.funkertactical.com/moose-attacks-snowmobiler-defends-with-glock-warning-graphic/

It's not a reach at all to say that moose attack more people than wolves in North America.
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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #70 on: November 13, 2014, 10:15:16 AM »
When I lived in NW Montana a cow moose with a calf was more feared that a griz.

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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #71 on: November 13, 2014, 11:15:13 AM »
When I lived in NW Montana a cow moose with a calf was more feared that a griz.
I know substantially more hunters from where I grew up in Idaho who have had bad encounters with moose relative to wolves, bears, and cats combined. 
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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #72 on: November 14, 2014, 05:30:19 PM »
“I think there’s probably more likelihood of being injured by a moose than a pack of wolves,” he said.:tup:

What the Heck is this Crap? I have been in the woods all my life and have never even had the thought of a Moose attacking me!  And I grew up in Utah where we have Moose all over. I have seen Dozens of them when we have been hiking up in the mountains. :dunno:

What Dumb Arse thought that was a good response? :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

Stupid is as stupid Does.  :bdid:

It's a wolf hugger trick,  divert the topic of the conversation to something other than wolves.

Yes, moose can be dangerous to the unwary and unlucky.  They can monkey stomp the crap out of you, but it's irrelevant as the topic is about wolves.

Personally, I'd much rather be within 100 yards of a moose than a grizz any day.

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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #73 on: November 14, 2014, 05:36:04 PM »
The people that allowed us to hunt a few years ago in N ID said the only thing we have to do to secure permission is show them our wolf tag!



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Re: Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
« Reply #74 on: November 14, 2014, 05:52:28 PM »
When I lived in NW Montana a cow moose with a calf was more feared that a griz.
I know substantially more hunters from where I grew up in Idaho who have had bad encounters with moose relative to wolves, bears, and cats combined.
Probably cause there are substantially more moose. Not really making a groundbreaking statement there.
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