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Eyeguards
« on: March 09, 2016, 10:47:25 AM »
Why do some people not count them as a legal point. Just wondering
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Re: Eyeguards
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2016, 10:55:30 AM »
This ones always entertaining...

Where's the popcorn smiley?  :chuckle:

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Re: Eyeguards
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2016, 11:11:57 AM »
I'll give you the highlights:

Pe Ell
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Re: Eyeguards
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2016, 12:13:26 PM »
No idea...

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Re: Eyeguards
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2016, 12:21:04 PM »
Most people are fine with counting it as a legal point (except Hunterman)

The sticking point is saying, "check out this nice 4x4" and it's a 3-point mule deer with little sticker browtines.  Usually with whitetail most people count the browtines because they are actually significant as in 5-7" long. 

Again...sometimes you run into this

I'm too old school. Count ONLY MAIN FRAME points.  In my camp if we're hunting mule deer (3 point min) you DON"T kill a 2 point with an eye guard. If you do your gone. You better have your own way home. Its not even going to be hung in my camp.

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And with elk, "Pe Ell" is all you need to know.
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Re: Eyeguards
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2016, 12:35:41 PM »
Tradition, heritage, personal choice, whatever you want to call it.   For legal reasons sure count it.   Mule deer camp, get laughed off the mountain.   If you want to be taken seriously, call a four point a four point, if it's a four point with eye guards call it that.  If it's a three point with eye guards, it's not a four point.  Quit trying to make your buck sound bigger. 
Much like finding a d cup stuffed with tissue.
Most of the time this has nothing to do with elk or whitetail.  That's a different campfire. 

Basically it can't be explained any further here, because we aren't allowed to use insults, explicitives, or really even be a manly here.  The same pc world that won't let a person speak his mind on here, is the same pc world trying to count all the points on a mule deer. 

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Re: Eyeguards
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2016, 12:52:13 PM »
 :yeah:
 :tup:
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Re: Eyeguards
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2016, 12:53:00 PM »
Tradition, heritage, personal choice, whatever you want to call it.   For legal reasons sure count it.   Mule deer camp, get laughed off the mountain.   If you want to be taken seriously, call a four point a four point, if it's a four point with eye guards call it that.  If it's a three point with eye guards, it's not a four point.  Quit trying to make your buck sound bigger. 
Much like finding a d cup stuffed with tissue.
Most of the time this has nothing to do with elk or whitetail.  That's a different campfire. 

Basically it can't be explained any further here, because we aren't allowed to use insults, explicitives, or really even be a manly here.  The same pc world that won't let a person speak his mind on here, is the same pc world trying to count all the points on a mule deer.

Bone's feisty today  :chuckle:  I second the emboldened part, really a bummer.
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Re: Eyeguards
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2016, 12:55:38 PM »
 :chuckle: This one always cracks me up. If there is a legal point on a buck you count it.

Yet you don't say you have shot a 5x5 when you shoot a 4x4 with eye gaurds. It's not a true 5x5. Lots of people get itchy with that one for some reason :chuckle:

The score books count it and a eye guard is a legal point cant argue that. Let people count what they want on there own deer.
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Re: Eyeguards
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2016, 01:01:51 PM »
To me it's much easier to say a rough score than points anyways. And gives a better idea of size. For whiteys I'll say a 120 4. Or a 130s 5 etc.
for Muleys I usually say 130s 3 or 120s 4 the same and typically won't count brows in that for Muleys. But I'll never run someone out of camp or belittle them for shooting a fork with a brow in a 3 point area. And I'll also usually keep my mouth shut if someone talks about a 4 point That is a 3 with a brow. It really doesn't bother me too much.

And to stir the pot a bit. What would you guys call this one? I watched him for a while and counted 4 with 2 brows on his righ side and 8-9 points on his left.
Would the first points on his left be "brow tines" and noncountable?  :stirthepot: : :chuckle:

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Re: Eyeguards
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2016, 01:02:55 PM »
Tradition, heritage, personal choice, whatever you want to call it.   For legal reasons sure count it.   Mule deer camp, get laughed off the mountain.   If you want to be taken seriously, call a four point a four point, if it's a four point with eye guards call it that.  If it's a three point with eye guards, it's not a four point.  Quit trying to make your buck sound bigger. 
Much like finding a d cup stuffed with tissue.
Most of the time this has nothing to do with elk or whitetail.  That's a different campfire. 

Basically it can't be explained any further here, because we aren't allowed to use insults, explicitives, or really even be a manly here.  The same pc world that won't let a person speak his mind on here, is the same pc world trying to count all the points on a mule deer.

Bone's feisty today  :chuckle:  I second the emboldened part, really a bummer.
Ive been noticing he's been feisty the last few months! And it's awesome!  :chuckle:  :tup:

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Re: Eyeguards
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2016, 01:52:11 PM »
Focus man.  Got any focused pictures of that thing.  :chuckle:


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Re: Eyeguards
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2016, 02:00:20 PM »
It's called the G-1 for Boone & Crockett or Pope & Young.   Say you shot a buck that was 2 inches  bigger than the world record. Would you call Boone & Crockett or Pope & Young and tell them not to count the G-1's because that makes my buck score bigger ?  The record books count ALL points.  Not my rules but the rules ALL deer are scored by everyone. Trump said he will straighten out this controversy when he's elected.
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Re: Eyeguards
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2016, 02:08:09 PM »
Pretty typical response from a bunch of whitetail guys. Lol.   Bruce Jenner also won woman of the year, Obama has been named best president of alltime and Bernie is running as a democrat. You can call them what you want.   

Basically from here on out if Carp ever shoots anything, we will all just know it was smaller than he really was.   :chuckle:

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Re: Eyeguards
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2016, 02:09:53 PM »
Focus man.  Got any focused pictures of that thing.  :chuckle:
:sry:
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