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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #345 on: May 25, 2016, 07:51:05 AM »
It went the way of the recurve compound bow.  Disappeared altogether.

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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #346 on: May 25, 2016, 07:52:39 AM »

Wait.....   Was this bull killed in a GMU that's closed to the hunting of branch antlered bulls?

WHAT????  Now that changes EVERYTHING...
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I think they were serious........... :chuckle:

Of course he is, he's a member of the YAKASESSFGG...or whatever we call ourselves these days >:(

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Well then...... are we sure it was really a branch antlered bull?

It was a world record spike that self - identified as a branched bull, therefore legal.
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #347 on: May 25, 2016, 07:55:41 AM »
 :o disappeared as I went to quote...must've been that super - secret - black organization - that doesn't exist-3 letter agency....... :chuckle:
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #348 on: May 25, 2016, 07:55:56 AM »
One last time, then this thread will go the way of the compound recurve bow. It'll disappear all together. This is the last warning regarding this subject.


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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #349 on: May 25, 2016, 08:09:54 AM »
As I was going to add, I don't think he cared. I'm not sticking up for or defending him, just stating what I believe to be the honest truth. He knew there might be some controversy and just didn't care.

Also, I think someone confirmed on here that the 2007 incident resulted in a conviction for lying and not any game related convictions so this in a sense would be his 1st offense, if it holds up.

He's obviously got some extra money to spend and I don't think he really cares what people so why do people insist on continuing to state he should care or do something to show remorse or give back if he really cared...that's just wishful thinking.

He's a self - made type of man and if he didn't care in the past what's left to expect a change now?

I'm sure if the alleged approved authorization from wdfw pans out he's not going to care and go out and find some more monsters. If not, I'm sure he's going to drag this out as long as he can, possibly another couple of years just to continue buying up the exclusive tags he's used to and not bat an eye.

Like I said, face some reality and get over the idea he's going to do something to feel good for everybody else.

I'm not defending or supporting him, just stating the obvious.  It's just crazy watching this train wreck continue as it doesn't matter what we say or think, it matters what actually happens in court and he's convicted of. :dunno:
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #350 on: May 25, 2016, 08:17:34 AM »
Good points Plat. I think you are correct that he simply may not give a hoot. IF he did get permission,  right or wrong, this whole mess will simply go away and left to be argued on Internet forums.

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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #351 on: May 25, 2016, 08:21:12 AM »
Dare I ask.......

What if he did make the calls and get the permission from WDFW to shoot this bull? Who would be the bad guy at that point? This has been burning in the back of my head since the beginning of this hot mess.
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #352 on: May 25, 2016, 08:24:11 AM »
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #353 on: May 25, 2016, 08:36:53 AM »
Dare I ask.......

What if he did make the calls and get the permission from WDFW to shoot this bull? Who would be the bad guy at that point? This has been burning in the back of my head since the beginning of this hot mess.

As the incident occurred I heard from 2 people in the know and so far one of those people's story is starting to take shape and reveal itself to be accurate.

Right or wrong ethically doesn't matter in this incident. Legal vs illegal and what a jury or judge thinks is what's going to matter. If permission was given and the person(s) that gave that permission stick to their words then whether it was actually legal by the WAC or RCW isn't going to matter because the judge/jury are going to be swayed by the official (s) that authorized it.

Pope's posted already that it doesn't matter if they had the authority by law or not, with the officer telling an inebriated person to drive further down the road. Pope clearly stated he pushed that issue and it didn't work out for his client. The officer didn't have the authority per WAC/RCW to make that call but he did.

We get it, or at least I do, they don't have the authority by law but If it turns out authority was given then he's walking.
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #354 on: May 25, 2016, 08:44:12 AM »
Dare I ask.......

What if he did make the calls and get the permission from WDFW to shoot this bull? Who would be the bad guy at that point? This has been burning in the back of my head since the beginning of this hot mess.

We get it, or at least I do, they don't have the authority by law but If it turns out authority was given then he's walking.

He walks WDFW might need an unlisted information phone number :dunno: :rolleyes:
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #355 on: May 25, 2016, 09:48:20 AM »
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #356 on: May 25, 2016, 10:06:36 AM »

Also, I think someone confirmed on here that the 2007 incident resulted in a conviction for lying and not any game related convictions so this in a sense would be his 1st offense, if it holds up.

 As a result of a plea, any good attorney will get his client a lesser charge in the end, than the one they are originally facing.

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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #357 on: May 25, 2016, 10:31:51 AM »
Dare I ask.......

What if he did make the calls and get the permission from WDFW to shoot this bull? Who would be the bad guy at that point? This has been burning in the back of my head since the beginning of this hot mess.

As the incident occurred I heard from 2 people in the know and so far one of those people's story is starting to take shape and reveal itself to be accurate.

Right or wrong ethically doesn't matter in this incident. Legal vs illegal and what a jury or judge thinks is what's going to matter. If permission was given and the person(s) that gave that permission stick to their words then whether it was actually legal by the WAC or RCW isn't going to matter because the judge/jury are going to be swayed by the official (s) that authorized it.

Pope's posted already that it doesn't matter if they had the authority by law or not, with the officer telling an inebriated person to drive further down the road. Pope clearly stated he pushed that issue and it didn't work out for his client. The officer didn't have the authority per WAC/RCW to make that call but he did.

We get it, or at least I do, they don't have the authority by law but If it turns out authority was given then he's walking.



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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #358 on: May 25, 2016, 10:42:07 AM »
Dare I ask.......

What if he did make the calls and get the permission from WDFW to shoot this bull? Who would be the bad guy at that point? This has been burning in the back of my head since the beginning of this hot mess.

We get it, or at least I do, they don't have the authority by law but If it turns out authority was given then he's walking.

He walks WDFW might need an unlisted information phone number :dunno: :rolleyes:
Great question, reply and comment. All three of you nailed it.

If that is what happened focus of anger over this incident will shift to the WDFW.
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Re: Hunter facing charges after death of beloved elk named Bullwinkle
« Reply #359 on: May 25, 2016, 10:53:39 AM »
Dare I ask.......

What if he did make the calls and get the permission from WDFW to shoot this bull? Who would be the bad guy at that point? This has been burning in the back of my head since the beginning of this hot mess.

We get it, or at least I do, they don't have the authority by law but If it turns out authority was given then he's walking.

He walks WDFW might need an unlisted information phone number :dunno: :rolleyes:
Great question, reply and comment. All three of you nailed it.

If that is what happened focus of anger over this incident will shift to the WDFW.

My prediction if this goes down. You'll still have the crowd who remains pissed off at Mr. Reichert for even calling for permission in the first place.
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