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Rest Upgrade`
« on: December 15, 2016, 08:22:00 AM »
Looking to upgrade the rest (finally) on my diamond bow.  It currently has the 3 brush rest, which I am getting tired of replacing the brushes on, and as they quickly wear down I notice arrow flight changing.
Not looking to spend as much as I did on my bow on a rest, but also looking for something I can take with to the next bow that i do buy.
Looking at the ripcord ace micro?
What do you all recommend in that general price range?  What other features should I be looking at?
I do like the idea of a rest staying up on let down in case that needs to happen in a given situation in order to keep the arrow contained.
Thanks!

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2016, 08:40:31 AM »
Take a look at the Trophy Taker rests.  Very, very reliable (less internal moving parts than the Ripcord) and pretty reasonably priced.  They have a great containment system, are quiet, and to date on both my bow and my partner's, have worked flawlessly for a handful of years.  Myself and hunting buddy both had two separate bad experiences with the Ripcords. 

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2016, 09:14:28 AM »
Take a look at the Trophy Taker rests.  Very, very reliable (less internal moving parts than the Ripcord) and pretty reasonably priced.  They have a great containment system, are quiet, and to date on both my bow and my partner's, have worked flawlessly for a handful of years.  Myself and hunting buddy both had two separate bad experiences with the Ripcords. 

 https://trophytaker.com/collections/arrow-rests/products/smackdown-pro-arrow-rest
awesome thanks!  ill give them a look.
mainly was looking for first hand experiences.. you can only read so many online reviews.

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2016, 09:21:15 AM »
I have the truglo down draft, it doesn't stay cocked on let down but is full containment and easy on the wallet.
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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2016, 09:32:03 AM »
 I will be getting the ripcord ace micro adjust this coming year. It will make broadhead tuning that much better being able to use the microadjust feature. Amazon has it for around $120.
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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2016, 12:11:24 PM »
Also take a look at the Trophy Ridge Revolution 2.  I have it on both of my bows and love it.  Full containment, stays up on letdown, and you should be able to pick it up for around $40.
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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2016, 12:31:05 PM »
Shoot trophy taker for years but had a few problems this last year granted they made this right and the customer service was great but I've switched to vapor tail limb driver and been very happy with them.

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2016, 07:50:14 PM »
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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2016, 08:18:09 PM »
I will be getting the ripcord ace micro adjust this coming year. It will make broadhead tuning that much better being able to use the microadjust feature. Amazon has it for around $120.

I bought this rest thinking the micro adjust would be nice too. The gearing is to big and clunky to do any "micro adjusting". Regret getting rid of the code red I had.

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2016, 09:56:33 PM »
Ive been using the QAD HDX for 2 years now and love it.  Don't have any experience with any other "upgrade" type rests.  Old bow had the stationary pins the arrow rested on ... forget what those are called.  Then I shot a whisker biscuit for a year. 

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2016, 11:03:48 PM »
I have a QAD on one bow and a Trophy Ridge Revolution on the other. Both rests are reliable and I have never had a problem with either.
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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2016, 07:15:12 AM »
Another vote for the Smack Down. Getting bows to tune with limb driven rests has always been really easy for me, some of the up cable rests not so much. My oldest Smack Down is about 5 years old and has never given me a problem, really solid rests.

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2016, 07:21:42 AM »
has anyone had any experience with the hamskea hybrid hunter pro?

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2016, 09:39:49 AM »
My last bow had a WB. 

I have a QAD on my current bow and it works.  I had one a few years ago on another bow and it failed, jury still out for me.  One thing to consider is follow up shots, yes they happen and if they do they have to happen FAST and quiet.  The QAD imho is not great for follow ups, doable yes by all means, but not optimum.  the arrow just will not stay on the forks as you draw so you would have to nock, then flip the fork up to lock position to hold the arrow then hook release and draw.  Completely doable, just something to keep in Mind.

With that in Mind I have seen the Trophy Taker that Phantom has, and it is the best of both worlds.  Nice big cage to drop arrow shaft into, with a wide fork that will capture the arrow as you draw every single time.  If I ever get tired of or replace the QAD it will be to one of those.  It does not have a hold/lock up feature but the design of the cage and fork it is not needed.

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2016, 09:50:45 AM »
I have a Trophy Taker on my Diamond Carbon Cure and it is a huge improvement over the RAK rest.  Others say I could have done better, but it seems to work well. 

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2016, 11:17:02 AM »
leaning towards the TT smackdown pro.
thanks for all of the input  :tup:

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2016, 10:08:46 AM »
My last bow had a WB. 

I have a QAD on my current bow and it works.  I had one a few years ago on another bow and it failed, jury still out for me.  One thing to consider is follow up shots, yes they happen and if they do they have to happen FAST and quiet.  The QAD imho is not great for follow ups, doable yes by all means, but not optimum.  the arrow just will not stay on the forks as you draw so you would have to nock, then flip the fork up to lock position to hold the arrow then hook release and draw.  Completely doable, just something to keep in Mind.
With the QAD I dont have any problem with follow up shots.  I never have my draw pull the rest when I practice so its pretty ingrained for me.  The rest is going up when I move my hand off the arrow and go to clip my release.  I would agree though that others can make it simpler to just throw the arrow in and go, but Im definitely not loosing any time.

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2016, 10:47:48 AM »
I have a QAD ultra rest, TT Smackdown Pro and the Trophy Ridge Evolution.
Hands down my QAD has been the best rest I've owned and has not let me down once in eight years. No problems with follow up shots either.
I never was a Trophy Taker fan, but I really have enjoyed using the smackdown pro, it was easy to tune, and has worked flawlessly.
The TR Evolution seemed like a gimmick to me when I seen it on the rack and I never would have bought one, but I bought a bow that had this rest on it. After shooting with this rest now for a couple months I can honestly say it's not a gimmick, it holds the arrow firmly, tuned easier than I expected, and I have complete vane clearance with blazers, if your looking for an inexpensive rest I think this is a great rest for the budget minded without sacrificing accuracy.

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2016, 06:05:29 PM »
The Trophy Taker's have s small spring inside that will break. I would look at the QAD, Hamskea or the new AAE Nock On rest.

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2016, 12:47:25 AM »
QAD is the best

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2016, 08:11:39 AM »
QAD is the best

That is what I hear so often that I am inclined to believe it is true.  As I posted above I have a Trophy Taker and like it just fine. 

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2016, 08:24:17 AM »
QAD!!
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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2016, 09:02:58 AM »
The Trophy Taker's have s small spring inside that will break. I would look at the QAD, Hamskea or the new AAE Nock On rest.
Sighting a single spring as a con and reason not to buy a TT is a bit hypocritical imho.  QAD has springs as well an inertial system so that they lock up to hold arrow but then drop when you shoot.  If you nitpick TT for having a spring then you have to do the same for all the mechanical rests and then only logical choice would be a WB.  My 1st QAD failed because of tumbler issue, current one is great and I love it, but they are mechanical just like TT and not fullproof either.

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2016, 05:11:21 PM »
Curios on the advantage on the QAD vs the wb?  What gains?

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2016, 02:26:16 AM »
i switch from a whisker bisquet to a QAD. ive always been a less moving parts guy the better. But the QAD does the same thing as a WB.  You will be more accurate due to the fact your arrow is not toucjing the rest all the way down the arrow. Also will pick up a couple ft/sec in speed

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2016, 03:11:58 AM »
What did you go with?

I have a QAD and Smackdown. Like the QAD more.  I'm not a fan of the limb cord.  :twocents:

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2016, 06:56:32 AM »
I just bought a QAD ultra rest HDX yesterday  :tup:

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2016, 07:29:15 AM »


I have a QAD and Smackdown. Like the QAD more.  I'm not a fan of the limb cord.  :twocents:
You can tie the cord into the down cable instead of running it to the limb.

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2016, 08:28:23 AM »


I have a QAD and Smackdown. Like the QAD more.  I'm not a fan of the limb cord.  :twocents:
You can tie the cord into the down cable instead of running it to the limb.

True. But you will have constant pressure on the cable. Not sure if I like the idea of that.

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2016, 09:47:13 AM »


I have a QAD and Smackdown. Like the QAD more.  I'm not a fan of the limb cord.  :twocents:
You can tie the cord into the down cable instead of running it to the limb.

True. But you will have constant pressure on the cable. Not sure if I like the idea of that.
There's already constant pressure on the cable.

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2016, 12:37:10 PM »
I just bought a QAD ultra rest HDX yesterday  :tup:
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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2016, 01:33:06 PM »
I just bought a QAD ultra rest HDX yesterday  :tup:
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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2017, 07:10:29 AM »
What did you go with?

I have a QAD and Smackdown. Like the QAD more.  I'm not a fan of the limb cord.  :twocents:
I have a QAD on the way  :tup:
Thanks for the input everyone.

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2017, 08:25:37 AM »
What did you go with?

I have a QAD and Smackdown. Like the QAD more.  I'm not a fan of the limb cord.  :twocents:
I have a QAD on the way  :tup:
Thanks for the input everyone.

I think you made the best decision.  Not that I am not happy with my Trophy Taker, but the QAD seems to be just a bit better if those who have "tried everything" are to be believed. 
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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2017, 01:41:42 PM »
I will be getting the ripcord ace micro adjust this coming year. It will make broadhead tuning that much better being able to use the microadjust feature. Amazon has it for around $120.

 :yeah: I have the ripcord code red now and want to upgrade to the ace. The ripcord rest has been a good rest for me.

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2017, 12:31:26 PM »
I just installed a qad hdx on my bow yesterday. It replaced a smackdown.
Got a handful of shots with t and am really liking it. It took literally 5 minutes to install and tune. It is noticeably quieter on the shot than my smackdown was.

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2017, 12:42:38 PM »
I just installed a qad hdx on my bow yesterday. It replaced a smackdown.
Got a handful of shots with t and am really liking it. It took literally 5 minutes to install and tune. It is noticeably quieter on the shot than my smackdown was.
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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2017, 01:19:33 PM »
I just installed a qad hdx on my bow yesterday. It replaced a smackdown.
Got a handful of shots with t and am really liking it. It took literally 5 minutes to install and tune. It is noticeably quieter on the shot than my smackdown was.
i'm hoping to get some time this weekend to shoot and dial my sights back in.

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2017, 04:51:48 AM »
I had the WB. Swore by it till i tried the QAD. It does the same thing but wont touch your arrow. The problem with a WB is its touching your arrow for such a long time that you move around and tend to throw the arrow off course. Does that make sense???

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2017, 05:06:15 PM »
What's the difference between the HDX and LD? I assume size and weight but can't find that on their website

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2017, 05:31:12 PM »
What's the difference between the HDX and LD? I assume size and weight but can't find that on their website

The internals are exactly the same and they work the same. Both have the lockdown feature, and both stay up if you let down. The difference is the HDX has the curved capture bar for more vane clearance, and a setscrew in the thumbwheel for micro adjusting the cord. The LD has a longer mounting bar. The micro adjust for the HDX cord is nice and why I pay a little more for it. But if on a budget the LD is a great option. I shot one for years without issues.

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2017, 07:21:06 PM »
What's the difference between the HDX and LD? I assume size and weight but can't find that on their website

The internals are exactly the same and they work the same. Both have the lockdown feature, and both stay up if you let down. The difference is the HDX has the curved capture bar for more vane clearance, and a setscrew in the thumbwheel for micro adjusting the cord. The LD has a longer mounting bar. The micro adjust for the HDX cord is nice and why I pay a little more for it. But if on a budget the LD is a great option. I shot one for years without issues.

Exactly what I was looking for, thanks for the info!

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Re: Rest Upgrade`
« Reply #43 on: April 09, 2017, 09:58:13 AM »
Just picked up my new Reign 7 a few weeks ago. Put a ripcord on it and sent it back. Good rest but it was not 100% reliable. Could be I just got a bad one, but was tired of 'flyers' for no reason. Discovered it was the rest after someone did a slo mo video for me...and no amount of adjusting prevented it.  I replaced it with HAMSKEA Hunter Pro....WOW, what a difference. Love the wider rest, quiet and contained. And..the HAMSKEA is tied to the limb, not the cable.  One other thing about the Ripcord...it has a red felt, sometimes black on the rest. I was getting a fuzzy build up, which in time amounted to a glob of fuzzy stuff and affected performance. The fuzzy stuff was coming from the target, adhearing to the carbon shafts and was not noticeable till it built up. HAMSKEA is not doing that either. Just my 2cents.

 


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