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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #195 on: May 23, 2018, 03:17:58 PM »
I think it may be a trick question.  Winchester mag primers are designated WLRM........not  9 1/2.  Did you use Remington?
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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #196 on: May 23, 2018, 03:28:24 PM »
215's.  They have a rep of being more accurate than the 215m's deservedly or not.

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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #197 on: May 23, 2018, 03:48:09 PM »
I think it may be a trick question.  Winchester mag primers are designated WLRM........not  9 1/2.  Did you use Remington?

I fixed it....it was a remington 9 1/2....not a Winchester. 

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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #198 on: May 23, 2018, 07:48:49 PM »
Dang near a 1/4" group.  Now to reproduce it tomorrow......just worked another 20 rounds to make sure this was no fluke. 

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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #199 on: May 23, 2018, 08:20:26 PM »
I've had ragged holes loads at 100 that didn't do well at 500, but you've got a great start ! 

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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #200 on: May 24, 2018, 06:52:45 AM »
Nice buddy! I think your getting this one figured out👍
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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #201 on: May 24, 2018, 06:58:05 AM »
I've had ragged holes loads at 100 that didn't do well at 500, but you've got a great start !

I have only seen that once so far......I hope to keep it that way.  How dissapointing would that be with a sub 1/2 moa out a 200 grain bullet.  I will be hitting the range again today and will report back. 

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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #202 on: May 24, 2018, 07:00:07 AM »
Nice buddy! I think your getting this one figured out👍
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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #203 on: May 24, 2018, 07:16:13 AM »
I had a perfect load then the next batch of bullets were .006 longer overall and ogive in slightly different spot and I had been just writing down ogive depths then found my ogive gage insert had worn .007 and then with a new batch of powder on top of that I was back to searching for the unicorn.   Moral is dont trust your ogive gage it can change.  Next time I will label one round “unicorn” and save it.  Of course it mite only be great at one set of conditions but should be good at many.

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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #204 on: May 24, 2018, 09:15:58 AM »
I'd say if your accuracy node is that small you are screwed anyways :chuckle:
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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #205 on: May 24, 2018, 10:00:52 AM »
I had a perfect load then the next batch of bullets were .006 longer overall and ogive in slightly different spot and I had been just writing down ogive depths then found my ogive gage insert had worn .007 and then with a new batch of powder on top of that I was back to searching for the unicorn.   Moral is dont trust your ogive gage it can change.  Next time I will label one round “unicorn” and save it.  Of course it mite only be great at one set of conditions but should be good at many.



What the heck are you doing to your poor bullet comparator/s to make it/them get any wear, let alone .007?  I sort nearly all my bullets and I've sorted thousands with the same bullet comparator set and never had one of my inserts get worn or change its inside diameter.  Are you using a bullet comparator made of papier mache or something???  :chuckle:

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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #206 on: May 24, 2018, 10:05:43 AM »
Sounds more like batch variations on bullets than comparator wear.
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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #207 on: May 24, 2018, 11:05:22 AM »
Sounds more like batch variations on bullets than comparator wear.

You might be right !

I'd say if your accuracy node is that small you are screwed anyways :chuckle:

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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #208 on: May 24, 2018, 11:12:51 AM »
Sounds more like batch variations on bullets than comparator wear.

You might be right !

I'd say if your accuracy node is that small you are screwed anyways :chuckle:

Ino !  Trying to play close to the lands to reduce es with RL33 and its really sensitive to depth up close but if I want great es and accuracy I haven't found it anywhere else with this powder. Didn't want to be in the lands but may have to or live with es in the 30's
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Re: Long Range Heavy Bullet Rifle Help?
« Reply #209 on: May 24, 2018, 12:13:46 PM »
Sounds more like batch variations on bullets than comparator wear.

You might be right !

I'd say if your accuracy node is that small you are screwed anyways :chuckle:

Ino !  Trying to play close to the lands to reduce es with RL33 and its really sensitive to depth up close but if I want great es and accuracy I haven't found it anywhere else with this powder. Didn't want to be in the lands but may have to or live with es in the 30's


have you tried H1000? I’m getting an es of 12 with a 10 shot group with 210’s and H1000,cci250’s
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