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What about the muzzy and modern cow permits?  That’s not all the cows they shot
Use the link I provided this is all district 8.
They don't break down harvest for weapons however with special permitt.

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Archery antlerless harvest per GMU:
HARVEST GMU:           328   329   334   336   340   352   356   364   Totals
Antlerless Archery       177   36        2      16     9     46     39     34     359


District 8 harvest by weapon and resource allocation:
method   district   species   Harvest (3 year avg)   % Harvest/user group   #Hunters       % Hunters/user group   Disparity

ARCHERY   8        ELK        620                            24.93%                           5757                 26.69%                -1.76%
MODERN    8        ELK        1,573                         62.77%                        13,432                62.32%                0.45%
MUZZLE     8        ELK        306                           12.30%                            2364                 10.99%                1.31%


The numbers above are for the last 3 years average.  We calculate the % of hunters overall per user group.  Then look to see how many animals they harvest, and see what percentage of the overall harvest that is.  Archery is the lowest on resource allocation for this unit.  The other user groups harvest more bulls, but have special permits for antlerless.  Archers have antlerless in their general season.  Before you criticize the antlerless harvest in 328/329, WDFW says the population is at or above objective in that unit, allowing that harvest.  With more animals, there is more conflict in those units.  The other 6 Yakima GMU's in the district account for very little antlerless harvest.  However, the other user groups have cow permits in these units and there was no proposal to cut their special permits.  I don't want to make this a fight between user groups.  There should be no fight, it's just simple numbers and statistics.  We try and get the disparity relatively equal among the user groups.

Can you imagine the disparity if you removed 300+ elk from the archery total of about 600?  The district would be way out of whack.  Also, remember, muzzy is 2% high in allocation overall in the state.

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Archery antlerless harvest per GMU:
HARVEST GMU:           328   329   334   336   340   352   356   364   Totals
Antlerless Archery       177   36        2      16     9     46     39     34     359


District 8 harvest by weapon and resource allocation:
method   district   species   Harvest (3 year avg)   % Harvest/user group   #Hunters       % Hunters/user group   Disparity

ARCHERY   8        ELK        620                            24.93%                           5757                 26.69%                -1.76%
MODERN    8        ELK        1,573                         62.77%                        13,432                62.32%                0.45%
MUZZLE     8        ELK        306                           12.30%                            2364                 10.99%                1.31%


The numbers above are for the last 3 years average.  We calculate the % of hunters overall per user group.  Then look to see how many animals they harvest, and see what percentage of the overall harvest that is.  Archery is the lowest on resource allocation for this unit.  The other user groups harvest more bulls, but have special permits for antlerless.  Archers have antlerless in their general season.  Before you criticize the antlerless harvest in 328/329, WDFW says the population is at or above objective in that unit, allowing that harvest.  With more animals, there is more conflict in those units.  The other 6 Yakima GMU's in the district account for very little antlerless harvest.  However, the other user groups have cow permits in these units and there was no proposal to cut their special permits.  I don't want to make this a fight between user groups.  There should be no fight, it's just simple numbers and statistics.  We try and get the disparity relatively equal among the user groups.

Can you imagine the disparity if you removed 300+ elk from the archery total of about 600?  The district would be way out of whack.  Also, remember, muzzy is 2% high in allocation overall in the state.

Therein Lies the problem.... even if you don't take the word of the" old timer" this states ungulates have been drastically decimated by a liberal invasion of politics that favor predators over any real science and it is only going to further reduce man's natural ability to be part of the ecosystem balance  :twocents:

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How about over harvesting
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Reducing the time bowhunters can hunt for antlerless elk in the Yakima and Colockum elk herds during the 2018 early general season to six days from 13. This change, as with previous reductions in permits for hunts with modern firearms and muzzleloaders, is designed to meet and sustain population objectives for those herds. The season for bull elk would not be affected by this change.


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Wondering if this applies to unit 175 as well?
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Wondering if this applies to unit 175 as well?
175 is still proposed as spike bull only


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Wondering if this applies to unit 175 as well?
175 is still proposed as spike bull only


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