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209 Primers
« on: March 20, 2018, 03:42:52 PM »
When is the date of the determination for legal use.

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Re: 209 Primers
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2018, 04:01:24 PM »
I think it's already been determined, but the "date of intended adoption" is listed as April 12-14.

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Re: 209 Primers
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2018, 04:03:38 PM »
The Commission votes on proposed changes at their next meeting scheduled for April 12-14 in Olympia.
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Re: 209 Primers
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2018, 07:42:39 PM »
The Commission votes on proposed changes at their next meeting scheduled for April 12-14 in Olympia.

How did the vote on this turn out?

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Re: 209 Primers
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2018, 07:59:26 PM »
So they approved it. Does it still have to be exposed?

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Re: 209 Primers
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2018, 09:03:41 AM »
So they approved it. Does it still have to be exposed?

I do not have the exact ruleing in front of me - but in the previous version I read - the exposed ignition system was discarded...
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Re: 209 Primers
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2018, 09:08:25 AM »
No, does not have to be exposed. I'm not sure there is a 209 ignition available that's exposed, so they pretty much had to remove that restriction if they were going to allow 209's. Now all the muzzleloaders at the Cabelas store are legal.

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Re: 209 Primers
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2018, 09:20:49 AM »
Congratz muzzy guys! 

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Re: 209 Primers
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2018, 09:33:33 AM »
What's the best 209 primer fired muzzy?

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Re: 209 Primers
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2018, 09:55:57 AM »
What's the best 209 primer fired muzzy?

This is just my thought... I use the Winchester W209.  If you are going to make the switch to 209's & BH-209 powder the correct primer will depend on the breech plug installed in your rifle.

Since BH requires a much higher ignition temp, you will see that Western Powders suggests a 'mag' type primer.  But again it really depends on the BP in you rifle.

Both Western and CVA offer an aftermarket BH209 breech plug

If you have a Knight the existing 209 BP's and a W209 will work great!

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Re: 209 Primers
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2018, 10:01:49 AM »
I'd like the most reliable to fire.  I don't know if I'll switch powders or not.  With open sights, it seems like any additional performance in speed won't make that much difference to me.  Am I wrong?

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Re: 209 Primers
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2018, 10:48:52 AM »
I'd like the most reliable to fire.  I don't know if I'll switch powders or not.  With open sights, it seems like any additional performance in speed won't make that much difference to me.  Am I wrong?

You are really correct!  Which rifle do you use?
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Re: 209 Primers
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2018, 12:23:14 PM »
I used an Optima last year.  I had a cap not go off but am guessing I didn't get it seated well enough.  It was a heart breaker on a bull at 20 or so yards.  The sound of that tiny hammer hitting the firing pin sure was loud to the bull and me.  Luckily I got a different bull the next morning.

There are a hundful of other guns we use in our party as well.

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Re: 209 Primers
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2018, 12:41:54 PM »
I used an Optima last year.  I had a cap not go off but am guessing I didn't get it seated well enough.  It was a heart breaker on a bull at 20 or so yards.  The sound of that tiny hammer hitting the firing pin sure was loud to the bull and me.  Luckily I got a different bull the next morning.

There are a hundful of other guns we use in our party as well.

With the Optima you probably would want to get the Western Powders BH-209 breech plug if you were going to shoot BH. BH is really not a big advantage ballistically but it is a lot more convenient to shoot.  Saves a lot of hand work.



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