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Re: Wdfw drawing fiasco explanation
« Reply #75 on: June 23, 2018, 06:36:16 AM »
Bring back the green postcards.  One?  none?  Multiple?  Now that is anticipation w/o instant gratification or disappointment.   :chuckle:  Oh, and the window stickers for vehicle passes.    :tup:
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Re: Wdfw drawing fiasco explanation
« Reply #76 on: June 23, 2018, 06:37:45 AM »
Bring back the green postcards.  One?  none?  Multiple?  Now that is anticipation w/o instant gratification or disappointment.   :chuckle:  Oh, and the window stickers for vehicle passes.    :tup:
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Re: Wdfw drawing fiasco explanation
« Reply #77 on: June 23, 2018, 07:03:01 AM »
The inter-web and the future hunter...a points buying, gear “upgrading”, gadget inventing, smart phone app having, technology savvy person is not going to be checking states websites less in the future, likely it will increase exponentially with an app that checks XYZ states website every 6 seconds and reports the state of affairs regarding the draw whenever they open it. However, I’m guessing that when there is a line drawn in the sand, i.e. 10am GMT June 21 in Wyoming, that almost nobody checks the hell outta their results all day on June 20th. Sure the server might crash As soon as they’re released but at least our actions wouldn’t cost us a delay in the draws actually being run.
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Re: Wdfw drawing fiasco explanation
« Reply #78 on: June 23, 2018, 07:51:58 AM »
The results came out the day they said they would. I do get that. But WDFW could do themselves more favors by not causing self inflicted wounds.

I wouldn't tell the whole world when the official release date is if the program can't handle the traffic. I wouldn't send an email at 5:30am instructing the recepitant to check results in "a few hours". I waited 4 hours after i recieved that email to check my results. Didnt consider myself a child for that  ;).

Again, results came out the day they said they would. But i think the department could help themselves out a little more.

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Re: Wdfw drawing fiasco explanation
« Reply #79 on: June 23, 2018, 07:57:05 AM »
I wasn’t a child until like 10am...I managed to be a grown ass man up until that point, then it all went down the drain!!
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Re: Wdfw drawing fiasco explanation
« Reply #80 on: June 23, 2018, 08:23:00 AM »
I just went through the entire thread and just don’t know what your talking about tbar?  “We”, what page is this “we” statement on?  And if part of the team are on this site I’d think that a good thing, really not sure where your getting that they talked smack? Again confused.  I posted this so people would have an idea behind the scene, and I also was hoping for good ideas from us so maybe they could read this thread and move forward. 
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Re: Wdfw drawing fiasco explanation
« Reply #81 on: June 23, 2018, 08:50:42 AM »
I like the new online system. I think the multiple emails are unnecessary. It was awesome that they said the draws would be done by the 21st and they were done by the 21st.

If the system would allow them to conduct the draws without posting the info, then tell us it will be posted the 22nd, run everything the 21st, post it the 22nd at 9am. That would effectively manage my expectations.

Keep up the good work WDFW.

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Re: Wdfw drawing fiasco explanation
« Reply #82 on: June 23, 2018, 08:57:58 AM »
I like the new online system. I think the multiple emails are unnecessary. It was awesome that they said the draws would be done by the 21st and they were done by the 21st.

If the system would allow them to conduct the draws without posting the info, then tell us it will be posted the 22nd, run everything the 21st, post it the 22nd at 9am. That would effectively manage my expectations.

Keep up the good work WDFW.

Al
i like that, if they would have said results posted the next day, they would have had half the traffic on the server. And then, if they did finish early, they could release results early.
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Re: Wdfw drawing fiasco explanation
« Reply #83 on: June 23, 2018, 09:00:23 AM »
one fact is regardless how it is run many people will simply not be happy in any circumstance.  I put in for zero tags, simply was not interested in the drama or low success rate of drawing. Ill hunt otc, maybe take a few days off during the blacktail rut.

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Re: Wdfw drawing fiasco explanation
« Reply #84 on: June 23, 2018, 09:02:28 AM »
It’s 2018, they should have this dialed in by now.
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Re: Wdfw drawing fiasco explanation
« Reply #85 on: June 23, 2018, 09:08:11 AM »
WDFW,

If you're reading this, would it be possible to get the draw result summary posted the same day the results are posted?

I only ask because I'm aware of at least two states that do- Wyoming and Colorado.

If not the same day, at least within a week or two would be nice, instead of the several months that it seems to be.

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Re: Wdfw drawing fiasco explanation
« Reply #86 on: June 23, 2018, 09:14:14 AM »
WDFW,

If you're reading this, would it be possible to get the draw result summary posted the same day the results are posted?

I only ask because I'm aware of at least two states that do- Wyoming and Colorado.

If not the same day, at least within a week or two would be nice, instead of the several months that it seems to be.
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Re: Wdfw drawing fiasco explanation
« Reply #87 on: June 23, 2018, 09:16:29 AM »
If the contractor says "I'll be at your house early tomorrow" and you wait around until 4:30 in the afternoon for him to show up, I doubt very many would consider that acceptable.
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Re: Wdfw drawing fiasco explanation
« Reply #88 on: June 23, 2018, 09:20:36 AM »
Tbar- why do you say the draw team was on here?
There were and have been for several years.  Not sure if that's the best expenditure of our tax dollars but it's a fact.  The team and their fearless leader can chime in at any time but lack the integrity.

Are you claiming there are WDFW employees on the forum who are part of the team of employees who run the draws??

Or is it just someone you dislike for some reason and are casting insults??
No, the "draw team" is on here.  Want their real names to call the nrb and ask?
So “on here” means monitoring the forum? Because I thought you meant they were members and posting in the thread or something significant. WDFW has been monitoring this forum for years for multiple reasons.  It’s probably one of the best means they have for heating the voice of the WA hunters.

Don’t post anyone’s names. I’m sure you wouldn’t want yours posted. Same goes for everyone.
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Re: Wdfw drawing fiasco explanation
« Reply #89 on: June 23, 2018, 10:05:48 AM »
Draw results are the most highly anticipated event of the year for many hunters.

In my opinion there were two issues which hurt WDFW’s credibility. First, they stated the results would be available “early” on June 21.  I doubt that most applicants consider mid-afternoon as “early”.  When other states like Wyoming indicate that results will be available at 8:00 a.m., they are almost always available at 08:00:00 to within a couple seconds.

Secondly, the emails were inconsistently issued: if the emails weren’t processed correctly, what else wasn’t processed correctly? In retrospective this appears to have no effect on draw results, but still leaves WDFW with somewhat of a black eye.
I really agree Bob33.  It the department only paid attention to one post it should be this one. Unfortuntaly this isn't the only area where they injure themselves needlessly.

Anyone whom has run a club or event will tell you that there will always be complainers. It has been my experience that to reduce the amount of complaining explanation of how and why they do things is helpful.
I love the fact that members on here have been witnesses to the draw and have learned first hand what's going on. When they share their thoughts we all benefit from their experience.

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