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What makes good taxidermy?
« on: July 14, 2018, 06:38:25 PM »
I'm putting together a goat hunt for next fall or the year after. I havent had any taxidermy work done on anything before other than diy euro and skull cap mounts. I see guys posting pics on here of mounts and they all look good but I don't exactly know why. I can recognize really bad work but I have a hard time distinguishing good from great from amazing. I'm really excited about going after goats and should I be successful I would like a life size mount done and I would like it done well. What are some key areas I should be looking at or key questions to ask? Thanks for any and all information!

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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2018, 06:51:39 PM »
Elkstuffer on here. You get what you pay for is the way I look at it.
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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2018, 07:09:28 PM »
For the most part, you do get what you pay for.  Attention to detail, fleshing/tanning process, quality of components used (eyes, hide paste, forms, stitching), animal references are just a few of the things that go into a quality mount.

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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2018, 07:41:43 PM »
If you look at enough of them you will start to really notice the difference, it’s usually the eyes that are off to me. So many mounts I see look like the animal has it’s head out the window of a bullet train
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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2018, 08:48:13 PM »
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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2018, 08:51:14 PM »
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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2018, 08:57:26 PM »
Fidalgo Taxidermy, one of the best in the business.
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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2018, 10:35:45 PM »
ill never understand the guys who spend thousands on gear, tags and guns then look for the cheapest taxi they can find.. I sure as hell not hanging some mediocre mount on my wall.

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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2018, 11:24:46 PM »
You can find a great taxidermist the specializes in deer and ek but not cats or goats......  Point I'm making is find a taxidermist that does good goats.  A good taxidermist is also a great wildlife artist......they pay attention to the details.  I have used the same guy now for years and would recommend him to anyone.  Great work. 

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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2018, 07:34:30 AM »
There are some great points that have been made here already and I totally agree.

Price should not be a consideration.  There are great artists just starting out trying to make a name for themselves that are working for very little money.  There are taxidermists that have created that name for themselves because of the great work they do.  There are only so many hours in the day and days in the year so they have to start increasing their prices.  It's a supply and demand thing.

As far as turn around time, for me that doesn't matter either.  If I want to have the animal mounted that means that I am going to be looking at it for years to come.  I have some that have been on the wall for over 20.  In the big picture waiting 8 months to get a mediocre mount back versus waiting 13 to get a great mount back is an easy decision.  I will say that there are great taxidermists just starting out that don't have a backlog yet so they can turn out a mount quickly.  Is that the norm? No.  Does it happen? Yes.  For me I just don't need a mount 5 months sooner that is going to be on my wall for the rest of my life.  If I get it in 10 months great, if it takes 13 that is fine too.  Once it is there I will get to enjoy it for a long time.

Eyes is the most important to me.  The eyes are what bring the mount to life in my opinion.

Another great point that was made was Jonny's about finding a taxi that is good at what you want done.  Great deer guys aren't necessarily great goat guys or cat guys or whatever.

Visit the taxi's shop and see what is being done in person before deciding. Every time I go to my taxidermist to drop off or pick something up I look around at all the great mounts in various stages of completion.  He truly is an artist and really makes the mounts look alive in my opinion.

I use Cedar River Taxidermy.  Rick is a great guy.  He has done multiple deer for me, a bear, a cougar and is working on a second cougar for me now.
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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2018, 07:41:42 AM »
Thanks for all the input so far fellas. Are there any specific questions I should ask when talking to guys?

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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2018, 10:42:01 AM »
Ask if they do there own tanning and send it out. How many goats have they done? What is the turn around time? How long have they been doing taxidermy? References?

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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2018, 12:42:49 AM »
Gary in postfalls,ID Northwest taxidermy is fanatical about his mounts and the time he spends on each piece. Some of the best deer mounts I have ever seen.

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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2018, 04:12:32 PM »
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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2018, 09:08:39 PM »
Alot if good points already mentioned. To me if you look at the mounts in a Taxidermist shop and they literally look alive that's it. I've used the same Taxidermist a few times and every time I'm there or pick up our mounts I'm amazed at his work
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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2018, 07:43:04 AM »
Eyes, eyes, eyes, eyes, eyes.....  That's the biggest thing.  If the eyes aren't set right, or too much clay gets built up around them your mount will look like a carp. 
I am also a stickler for ear placement.  Deer (especially mule deer) with their ears pushed out like a set of satellite dishes don't look natural (IMO).  When you think you have found a taxi you want to go with, go visit the shop and look at the eyes and ears on the deer there.  If they look like they are stuffed, go find another taxi.  The deer should look like it's about to move. 

I know you are looking to have a goat done, but I would judge a taxi's work by his deer.  If he can do a muley or a whitetail that looks like its gonna come off the wall and escape, that's a good taxi.  If it doesn't, keep looking.  There are lots of really good taxidermists in Washington State (and on this site), and most of them seem to charge about the same. 

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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2018, 07:58:49 AM »
The eyes.

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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2018, 04:41:57 PM »
Eyes are a huge part of it along with ,tanning hide prep and so on, here is a good eye

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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2018, 05:10:05 PM »
I think the eyes and mouth are what separate them.  I don't know anything about the industry other than you can determine if it's good or junk in about four seconds.  I suppose long term there are differences in how it holds together, but I don't know.

When I chose a taxi for the only mount I have had done, I went with one with a ton of positive reviews and pics here that looked good.  He was expensive and took almost a year and it was worth the wait and money.  I really had second thoughts in getting it done at all due to the cost, but was glad my wife talked me into it.  He had a bunch of info on what to do with it until I dropped it off, quickly answered all e-mails and texts and was 100% up front with the cost, timeline and what the process was - very professional throughout.

Personally, I wouldn't mount anything that didn't have a ton of personal feelings tied with it, but for the one I did it turned out great.  I don't care much about size, it's all about reminding me of the experience and I wouldn't hesitate to mount another one for the right hunt.

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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2018, 08:45:05 AM »
Eyes are a huge part of it along with ,tanning hide prep and so on, here is a good eye

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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2018, 04:00:35 PM »
Eyes are important, but I would argue ears are as (perhaps more) important as they really set the expression.  They say relaxed, worried, alert, upset, angry, etc.

My taxidermist (Jerry Huffaker of Texas) has me send photos of real animals that I want my mount to look like and then he mimics the mount after the photos (rather than send other mounts that I like).  Nothing is more realistic than a real animal to model after!



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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2018, 08:02:10 PM »
There are thousands of taxidermist's out there. Truth is most all of them have a lot of room for improvement. There's only a select few that truly know how to put an animal back together accurately and most of those guys have the ribbons to back their work.  A taxidermist is a nobody in the industry if he hasn't competed and earned the awards that elevate his work above the rest.  Most states have a taxidermy association that is made up of the more advanced, skilled and dedicated taxidermists. I would suggest you begin your search there. You should be able to find out who has competed in the last few years, the awards they have earned and the species they specialize in. Having said that I haven't lived in Wa. state for several years and don't know if Wa. has an association or not. If you want a good taxidermist ask them to show you the awards they have earned.

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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2018, 08:58:18 AM »
There are thousands of taxidermist's out there. Truth is most all of them have a lot of room for improvement. There's only a select few that truly know how to put an animal back together accurately and most of those guys have the ribbons to back their work.  A taxidermist is a nobody in the industry if he hasn't competed and earned the awards that elevate his work above the rest.  Most states have a taxidermy association that is made up of the more advanced, skilled and dedicated taxidermists. I would suggest you begin your search there. You should be able to find out who has competed in the last few years, the awards they have earned and the species they specialize in. Having said that I haven't lived in Wa. state for several years and don't know if Wa. has an association or not. If you want a good taxidermist ask them to show you the awards they have earned.
Not all good taxidermist have competed or have awards or ribbons to show for their artistic skills.  :twocents:

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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2018, 09:33:09 AM »
I always gravitate towards looking at the face, specifically the eyes. With that said, my billy will be my first piece of taxidermy work I have aside from euro mounts.
I'd ask the taxidermist if he's ever done a full body goat. I'd be willing to bet that  most have not. Maybe even a full body anything. Just have a look.  If you shoot a billy with good long hair, there's some forgiveness with the rest of the mount as the hair will hide some flaws.

Some pretty awesome goat mounts here. A couple I don't like too much.

http://www.monstermuleys.info/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.pl?az=show_thread&om=5031&forum=DCForumID8&archive=yes

A life sized mountain goat mount is huge. Rick at Cedar River Taxidermy is doing my goat...we opted for a wall pedestal. He told me to look at a lifesized mount as another full sized couch in your room, only taller.
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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2018, 09:34:00 AM »
A killer full body mount.

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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2018, 09:38:59 AM »
I like these 2 WA goats as well. The one on the left is pretty plain but is in pretty much exactly the same position as my goat when I first saw him. I’d like a mount like that to recreate a memory from the hunt.

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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2018, 07:21:40 AM »
I always gravitate towards looking at the face, specifically the eyes. With that said, my billy will be my first piece of taxidermy work I have aside from euro mounts.
I'd ask the taxidermist if he's ever done a full body goat. I'd be willing to bet that  most have not. Maybe even a full body anything. Just have a look.  If you shoot a billy with good long hair, there's some forgiveness with the rest of the mount as the hair will hide some flaws.

Some pretty awesome goat mounts here. A couple I don't like too much.

http://www.monstermuleys.info/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.pl?az=show_thread&om=5031&forum=DCForumID8&archive=yes

A life sized mountain goat mount is huge. Rick at Cedar River Taxidermy is doing my goat...we opted for a wall pedestal. He told me to look at a lifesized mount as another full sized couch in your room, only taller.

I am a huge fan of the wall pedestal.  I won't ever do a wall mount any other way.  It does require capeing a bit further back than the standard wall mount does though.

A few of my wall pedestals.  The elk is hard to get a good photo of.  it looks better in person.  And the gemsbok is just a standard wall mount, not a pedestal. 


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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2018, 09:17:50 AM »
Here is a blog about choosing the right taxidermist...

http://www.theoutdoorline.com/blog/post/2018/11/01/choosing-the-right-taxidermist.aspx

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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2018, 09:23:28 AM »
I always gravitate towards looking at the face, specifically the eyes. With that said, my billy will be my first piece of taxidermy work I have aside from euro mounts.
I'd ask the taxidermist if he's ever done a full body goat. I'd be willing to bet that  most have not. Maybe even a full body anything. Just have a look.  If you shoot a billy with good long hair, there's some forgiveness with the rest of the mount as the hair will hide some flaws.

Some pretty awesome goat mounts here. A couple I don't like too much.

http://www.monstermuleys.info/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.pl?az=show_thread&om=5031&forum=DCForumID8&archive=yes

A life sized mountain goat mount is huge. Rick at Cedar River Taxidermy is doing my goat...we opted for a wall pedestal. He told me to look at a lifesized mount as another full sized couch in your room, only taller.

I am a huge fan of the wall pedestal.  I won't ever do a wall mount any other way.  It does require capeing a bit further back than the standard wall mount does though.

A few of my wall pedestals.  The elk is hard to get a good photo of.  it looks better in person.  And the gemsbok is just a standard wall mount, not a pedestal.
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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2018, 12:12:00 PM »
Thanks!

Who are you having do your taxidermy?  Can't wait to see that bushpig!
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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2018, 12:18:41 PM »
Thanks!

Who are you having do your taxidermy?  Can't wait to see that bushpig!
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Re: What makes good taxidermy?
« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2018, 09:18:46 PM »
Cool.  I took my elk to Buzzy in North Bend.  Olympic taxidermy.  He turned it in 9 months and I was very happy with his work.  He had some very nice looking African work in his studio.  If I was going local that is who I would goto.  I use Huffaker in Abilene TX for my African stuff.
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