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Re: 2018 High Buck PACK SHAKEDOWN
« Reply #90 on: August 07, 2018, 12:40:27 PM »
Figure out how much you can comfortably carry every day. For me, that's 27 pounds. I took my hunting pack to work every day for a year, walking (or running) for the bus, transferring downtown, and walking another mile each way. I didn't carry the same gear, but I learned exactly how much I could carry and how far I could go with it not be sore the next day. Take the glass, take the raingear, wear the wool clothes.
27lbs... I assume not including weaponry? Does that include glass? 

BTW, I'm doing a training hike tonight and Section I of the PCT this weekend, so I'll be a little more focused on what I can cut through those trips.  My pack for my training hike tonight is set up as if I were on a 2-night, 3-day scouting trip (i.e., everything but the kill kit and weapons), and I'm weighing in at 31lbs wet (all food + 1.5L water, which is a typical starting point for my hydration pack). 

That's sans leatherman, extra pants (I did keep an extra shirt for some reason...), and I trimmed down the med kit from ~9oz to ~5oz. 
   

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Re: 2018 High Buck PACK SHAKEDOWN
« Reply #91 on: August 07, 2018, 01:31:10 PM »
Nice. Im still at 39 # of luxury.  But would be nice to drop 10#.

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Re: 2018 High Buck PACK SHAKEDOWN
« Reply #92 on: August 08, 2018, 11:49:04 PM »
Lightweight game bags on sale on camofire today
"Right now, I am thinking that If my grandmother was here, she would be lecturing me about how there are poor people in Africa, that would just love to have a Ruger, I would just say "Great, granny, lets just ship all the Rugers to Africa!"


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Re: 2018 High Buck PACK SHAKEDOWN
« Reply #93 on: August 10, 2018, 09:08:42 AM »
BTW, I picked up some of the Allen game bags and HOLY CRAP y'all weren't lyin' about those Alaska bags being huge and heavy compared to the competition.  Set of Allen bags only cost me $20 on amazon, so assuming they don't fail me, I'll likely stick with those. 

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Re: 2018 High Buck PACK SHAKEDOWN
« Reply #94 on: August 10, 2018, 11:52:41 AM »
Lightweight game bags were the first "lightweight" item I changed in my pack. I bought the Kuiu quarter bags a few years ago. It changed everything for me. Now I could reasonably pack enough bags to fully process an elk on the hill and stash the meat between packouts. I could also rinse them in a creek back at camp, and re use them the next day for the next animal. My pack isn't as comfy to sit on now, but I'll take that in the pounds of weight it saved and the functionality of them.
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Re: 2018 High Buck PACK SHAKEDOWN
« Reply #95 on: August 10, 2018, 12:28:27 PM »
I've put 4 deer through my Allen game bags. There are a couple small holes I'm about to patch for this season but they are still kicking.
"Right now, I am thinking that If my grandmother was here, she would be lecturing me about how there are poor people in Africa, that would just love to have a Ruger, I would just say "Great, granny, lets just ship all the Rugers to Africa!"


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It sounds like it's time to get a new gun.

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Re: 2018 High Buck PACK SHAKEDOWN
« Reply #96 on: August 10, 2018, 02:44:04 PM »
Not sure if it was addressed above, but your first aid kit is wayyyyyy too big.

My emergency kit consists of: Leukotape (far superior to athletic or moleskin), quick clot, 12 of para cord that gets robbed all the time, and a small baggy with IBP, claritan and a separate baggy with a couple of Benedryl tabs


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Re: 2018 High Buck PACK SHAKEDOWN
« Reply #97 on: August 12, 2018, 02:20:51 PM »
Cut your toothbrush in half and drill holes in it. Don't forget whisky.
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Re: 2018 High Buck PACK SHAKEDOWN
« Reply #98 on: August 12, 2018, 02:32:35 PM »
Few random thoughts on this stuff from a guy who spends 50+ days a year living out of a backpack and packing out a dozen plus animals a year.  I've learned all this stuff the hard way and wish I would have had someone 15 years ago to drop some wisdom on me.

Packs:  regardless of what you have, fit it properly and learn the proper way to put it on.  I see so many people who bypass this step and then wonder why they get hotspots or sore shoulders.  Just last night I watched a video of a couple guys hunting.  These dudes LITERALLY SELL several lines of packs and both had packs way out of adjustment. 

Food:  pack what you are going to enjoy eating.  Some stuff may not hit the calorie content that the internet tells you it has to have but by God you can eat it day in and day out it will be more beneficial than the calorie dense food you hate after two days and end up not eating.  If you don't eat it then it's worth zero calories and hurts you mentally

Weight: I stopped weighing my stuff years ago.  Don't really care honestly.  I've gone ultra light and its not for me. I pack what I want and what I need, weight be damned.   I want good food, coffee, and I wanna sleep good.  If that comes at a weight penalty then I'll do a few extra squats and lunges.  The guy who struggles with a 50lb pack is gonna struggle with a 40lb pack.  Get some weight on your back and make your lungs burn a bit  before season and a few extra pounds is a non issue.

Mental toughness:  if you don't have some grit, it doesn't matter what your pack weighs or what gear you have, you will fail and you will come off the mountain early.  When it gets hard, lonely, or boring, attack the issue.  Always keep stepping!  Physically and mentally. It won't kill you.  Unless you walk off a cliff or mauled by a bear.  Then it will kill you :chuckle:


Like others have said, overall you've got a pretty good list going.  With time you'll figure out what you need/don't need.
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Re: 2018 High Buck PACK SHAKEDOWN
« Reply #99 on: August 21, 2018, 02:34:32 PM »
Keep the leatherman, its value for its weight is unmatched.
Bring extra bullets, incase you need to check your zero for whatever reason. I feel that bullets and gun are two things that should be classified as weightless.

Ditch the second pair of pants, those zions dry out fast and you can wear your rain pants if the zions are soaked and its too cold to walk them dry.

Ditch doubles of anything else for that short of a trip including undies.


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Re: 2018 High Buck PACK SHAKEDOWN
« Reply #100 on: August 21, 2018, 02:51:42 PM »
Yeah, I'm just about settled on carrying only one pair of clothes.  If it's close to freezing, I'll bring a set of socks in my sleeping bag dry-bag because I'll need them to stay warm, but otherwise I'll just carry one set. 

FYI - @shallowforks sold me his Nikon ED50 which is 4oz lighter than my Bushnell and about a million times better optically (nevermind waterproof, etc.) so the spotting scope is definitely coming with. 

My Exped sleeping pad never materialized due to a mistake by REI, but they gave me a discount on the next purchase so I got a Sea2Summit ultralight insulated pad for about $80.   It's got a few ounces on the exped, but overall I'm super happy with the upgrade. 

I dropped the $$ on a Heather's Choice dehydrated meal (about 2oz lighter the equivalent MH meal) so I'll be eating that either on my scouting/bear hunt the weekend before high buck or on the weekend of opener. 

27.5 miles on the PCT tought me my insoles were worn out, so I've got a fresh set of Superfeet trailblazers in my boots now.  I'll break them in this weekend, REALLY break them in the following week climbing Mt Adams, then be all set for hunting season to kick into full gear :)

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Re: 2018 High Buck PACK SHAKEDOWN (updated)
« Reply #101 on: August 21, 2018, 08:12:22 PM »
Updated list:

Mission: take a bear or mule deer out of ALW or GPW. 
General strategy: solo rifle hunt. mix of trails and bushwhacking.  Get as high as I can on the forest roads and hoof it up into the wilderness alpine/sub-alpine areas.  Not likely to be more than 4-5 miles in as I would likely need to make two trips to get all the meat out.  3 nights / 4 days max.


Pack and poles:
- Osprey Aether 60
- Leki Makalu Ultralight Ti trekking poles

Findin' and Killin':
- Savage Lightweight Hunter, 7mm-08 with Nikon Prostaff 5 2.5-10x40mm scope and Quake Claw sling
- 4 rounds in the mag + 4 extra rounds of Hornady Precision Hunter ELDX factory ammo
- Leupold BX-4 10x42mm binos, with soft case and tripod adapter
- Vortex Summit SS-P Tripod
- Thermarest Z-Lite Seat
- Nikon ED50 13-30x50mm spotting scope
- Sig Kilo 1250 Rangefinder
- Dead Down wind checker

Misc tools and Kill kit:
- Pocket knife - Kershaw OSO Sweet
- Gerber Vitals knife, with extra scalpel blades
- electrical tape (currently about 1/5 of a "full" roll)
- tags and license
- 3 Allen Game Bags
- 2 pair nitrile gloves

Toiletries:
- Duece of Spades trowel
- moist wipes
- contact solution and case
- glasses and case
- eye drops
- toothbrush and toothpaste
- floss

Light and electronics:
- Black Diamond Storm headlamp, plus 1 set of extra AAA batteries (or possibly my extra headlamp instead, if I can find it)
- iPhone 7 in UAG case
- Anker PowerCore 13000 portable charger (I realize this is a luxury, but I use my mapping systems on my phone extensively during the hunt and my phone's battery is not in great shape). 
- 2' iphone charger cable
- Garmin InReach SE+
- in-ear headphones and adapter

Shelter and sleep system:
- Hennessy Expedition Ultralight hammock
- Mtn Hardwear 20 down sleeping bag
- Sea2Summit Ultralight Insulated sleeping pad, large -or- Thermarest Prolite 3/4 pad if the weather's warm
- **3x9' Tyvek (in case I need to use the hammock like a tent in very cold weather; may double as a ground sheet for processing meat)
- two MSR groundhog stakes

First Aid/Emergency:
- 1 roll 2" Coban
- moleskin
- 2 non-stick gauze pads
- various band-aids
- antiseptic ointment
- alcohol wipes
- ibuprofen
- antihistamine
- anti-diarrheal
- space blanket
- lighter

Apparel (everything is synthetic):
- Sunglasses
- OR boonie hat
- Prana Stretch Zion pants
- 2 pair Darn Tough hiking socks
- Ex Officio Undies
- long sleeve t-shirt
- Marmot Variant jacket
- **Mtn Hardwear Phantom puffy jacket
- OR Foray Rain Jacket
- Cabelas spacerain pants
- **Patagonia Capilene 2 long undies
- Scarpa Zodiak Plus boots
- OR Flextex II gaiters
- **OR overdrive convertible gloves -or- OR Guide gloves, depending on weather
- **Mtn Hardwear beanie
- Scarf

Water:
- MSR Hyperflow water filter
- 2.5L Osprey Hydraulics hydration pack (filled to the minimum point I think I need at any given fill-up spot)
- 1L Platypus collapsible water bottle (used almost exclusively in camp)

Cookware/Kitchen:
- JetBoil Sol Titanium stove
- small JetBoil fuel can
- Sea2Summit Titanium cup
- MSR Mugmate coffee filter -or- Dark Timber packs.  Still deciding on this.
- Sea2Summit long spoon

*Food:
- Mtn House dinners, portioned into foodsaver zipper bags
- oatmeal for breakfast
- lara bars
- trail mix
- deer summer sausage for good luck
- sometimes dark chocolate


*Obviously highly dependent on the length of trip, which varies from an overnight to 2night/3day.
**May be left at home depending on the weather forecast. 
« Last Edit: August 22, 2018, 08:42:54 AM by yakimanoob »

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Re: 2018 High Buck PACK SHAKEDOWN
« Reply #102 on: August 21, 2018, 08:19:06 PM »
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Re: 2018 High Buck PACK SHAKEDOWN
« Reply #103 on: August 21, 2018, 10:49:18 PM »
Looks pretty good to me. If you haven't, print this list. When items are used, check them. Do this for the whole season. Then,  scrutinize items with no checks. You're well on your way to being dialed.

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Re: 2018 High Buck PACK SHAKEDOWN
« Reply #104 on: August 22, 2018, 05:14:58 AM »
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