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Who are the “Libs”that started this rant?
  Don’t see anyone mentioned in the article.  Fake news?  :dunno:

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Slanted news and comment. So tired of the people who seem so willinng, dare I say, eager, to divide people into camps....for or against, liberal or conservative, etc.

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Having logged the upper Twisp river drainage back in the late 70,s and watching the Sierra Club shut down the logging in the Twisp and Winthrop districts,  followed up by all the environmentalist groups telling the USFS what they will and will NOT do,  YOU can thank them for THIS!   Looking from Washington Pass back to the Twisp river drainage.

 
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Who are the “Libs”that started this rant?
  Don’t see anyone mentioned in the article.  Fake news?  :dunno:
Don't know who the libs are either, but I do know that Clinton shut down the logging, which put a lot of good people out of work and caused a lot of heartache in small logging towns. And now fires are worse than ever because forests are so full of fuel for the fires.
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I am not a fan of a lot of what McMorris does, but I read this article about a week ago and it could be a step in the right direction.  I have done no other research and this was the first I had read about it, so let me apologize in advance if there is something I am missing.  I would love to hear others comments that are more knowledgeable.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/aug/03/mcmorris-rodgers-us-forest-service-chief-tout-publ/
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Having read the article bradford, its a very small step.   One thing for sure though, most of the environmental groups that have their hands in shutting down the forest after the Sierra Club started the process are still at it!!!

The process is really simple,  a crowded forest will burn hot and out of control, a thinned forest where tree limbs aren't touching other trees, most of the time the fire stays on the floor and is more apt to be controlled.

When the government can finally figure out that if they would allow third party lawsuits against these "eco-freak groups" some of the injunctions will cease to be filed!

Every one who losses property to wildfires, should be able to file suit against the likes of the Sierra Club and people like Mitch Friedman.
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The reason fires are so big these days is because we've been suppressing them for over one hundred years. Instead of letting them do what they naturally do we put them out and now we have enormous fuel loads that result in huge fires that burn all summer long. The lack of logging and grazing is a microscopic fraction of the real problem.

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After Libs Blame West Coast Fires on Global Warming, Forester Speaks out

https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/after-libs-blame-west-coast-fires-on-global-warming-forester-speaks-out/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=conservative-brief-CT&utm_campaign=dailyam&utm_content=conservative-tribune


I completely agree with these comments from the story:

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“You take away logging, grazing and maintenance, and you get firebombs,” Zybach said.
Although not strictly a “firebomb,” the wildfires are so violent that they have spawned a “firenado” from the sheer intensity of the heat.

With record wildfires engulfing over 600,000 acres, Zybach’s prediction has played out in a deadly fashion.

We can all thank liberals, enviros, Dems, and some RINO's  for shutting down all the logging, all these fires of course contribute vast quantities of heat to our atmosphere. It wasn't the Republicans that shut it all down. The liberals, enviros, and Dems own this!
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The reason fires are so big these days is because we've been suppressing them for over one hundred years. Instead of letting them do what they naturally do we put them out and now we have enormous fuel loads that result in huge fires that burn all summer long. The lack of logging and grazing is a microscopic fraction of the real problem.





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Re: After Libs Blame West Coast Fires on Global Warming, Forester Speaks out
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2018, 12:33:48 PM »
Having read the article bradford, its a very small step.   One thing for sure though, most of the environmental groups that have their hands in shutting down the forest after the Sierra Club started the process are still at it!!!

The process is really simple,  a crowded forest will burn hot and out of control, a thinned forest where tree limbs aren't touching other trees, most of the time the fire stays on the floor and is more apt to be controlled.

When the government can finally figure out that if they would allow third party lawsuits against these "eco-freak groups" some of the injunctions will cease to be filed!

Every one who losses property to wildfires, should be able to file suit against the likes of the Sierra Club and people like Mitch Friedman.

Mitch, self appointed leader of conservation NW,  a self admitted terrorist, grew in Chicago and became a self proclaimed forestry expert and started spiking trees and shutdown very sound forest management practices across the western US.  With his incredibly ignorant views he helped destroy tens of thousands of acres of forest and  tens of thousands of innocent animals like the endangered mule deer, lynx , woodland caribou etc.  what a sham anyone listens to this fraud :chuckle:

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Re: After Libs Blame West Coast Fires on Global Warming, Forester Speaks out
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2018, 06:48:11 PM »
The reason fires are so big these days is because we've been suppressing them for over one hundred years. Instead of letting them do what they naturally do we put them out and now we have enormous fuel loads that result in huge fires that burn all summer long. The lack of logging and grazing is a microscopic fraction of the real problem.





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I don't think he is saying that.  I think the point is "do what they naturally do", burn (not put them out). 
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Re: After Libs Blame West Coast Fires on Global Warming, Forester Speaks out
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2018, 10:00:22 PM »
The reason fires are so big these days is because we've been suppressing them for over one hundred years. Instead of letting them do what they naturally do we put them out and now we have enormous fuel loads that result in huge fires that burn all summer long. The lack of logging and grazing is a microscopic fraction of the real problem.





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Logging and grazing weren't here for the last 4.5 billion years and either were fires of this magnitude. Don't get me wrong I fully support both but they're not the problem. What's really to blame is ignorance and the outward expansion of humans into more and more remote locations.


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Re: After Libs Blame West Coast Fires on Global Warming, Forester Speaks out
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2018, 10:56:35 PM »
The reason fires are so big these days is because we've been suppressing them for over one hundred years. Instead of letting them do what they naturally do we put them out and now we have enormous fuel loads that result in huge fires that burn all summer long. The lack of logging and grazing is a microscopic fraction of the real problem.





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Logging and grazing weren't here for the last 4.5 billion years and either were fires of this magnitude. Don't get me wrong I fully support both but they're not the problem. What's really to blame is ignorance and the outward expansion of humans into more and more remote locations.

Right.  The outward expansion of humans causes lightning to strike and start fires.  Bologna.  Proper logging would certainly reduce fuel immensely.  It's crazy that most of our lumber products come from Canada while we simply feed the fires with our timber resources. 

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Re: After Libs Blame West Coast Fires on Global Warming, Forester Speaks out
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2018, 08:51:07 AM »
The reason fires are so big these days is because we've been suppressing them for over one hundred years. Instead of letting them do what they naturally do we put them out and now we have enormous fuel loads that result in huge fires that burn all summer long. The lack of logging and grazing is a microscopic fraction of the real problem.





Do you mow your lawn, or just let it grow?

Logging and grazing weren't here for the last 4.5 billion years and either were fires of this magnitude. Don't get me wrong I fully support both but they're not the problem. What's really to blame is ignorance and the outward expansion of humans into more and more remote locations.

Right.  The outward expansion of humans causes lightning to strike and start fires.  Bologna.  Proper logging would certainly reduce fuel immensely.  It's crazy that most of our lumber products come from Canada while we simply feed the fires with our timber resources.

Dude just look at this forum. Every time a new fire pops up somewhere everyone and their mom is like "oh man, there's a lot of houses up there I hope they get this one out soon!" I don't like seeing homes burn end either does anyone else so we go put the fires out and fuel that should have burned doesn't and it piles up and this happens year after year and then eventually you get fires that blow up and gobble up hundreds of thousands of acres. Logging and grazing DOES help but it's only a band aid for a much bigger problem.

 

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