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Offline Tbob

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What the heck?!
« on: September 14, 2018, 01:55:15 PM »
Okay,
   So last year I scored on my first archery bull and was super stoked. So this year I go into the season with a little more confidence.
    Iím hunting the SW coast of WA and canít muster up a bull to save my life! Iíve been out since opening morning and canít find a one! Iíve been in the timber (a lot), I hiked  6 miles up a creek bottom the other day and hunted 6 miles back out and didnít see anything! Iíve tried all kinds of calling and canít even get a response ( except for the 4 dudes I called in last night). Iíve glassed clear cuts in the mornings and evenings, Iíve just been silent all day and crept around logging roads and timber all day. STILL NOTHING!
  So far Iíve glassed up 3 cows, one calf and a spike one evening in a clear cut and a few deer here and there and thatís it... Iíve been out from well before sun up to waaaaay past dark,  out all day! Iíve tried multiple closed gates here and there and still notta.. itís not for lack of effort, it must be something fundamental Iím doing wrong. Everyone Iíve talked to out here says ď oh weíve been into em everyday, just not the right one or just couldnít get close enough for a shotĒ.. seriously?! Iíve been out here over a week now and canít even find a bull!!
  So can someone help a brother out and explain what the heck Iím doing wrong? I just canít figure it out?!  Iím in the wood all dang day! Iím not a bad caller, Iím covering ground, Iím hunting all types of terrain, Iím calling , Iím silent listening for calls, Iím mindful of the wind, Iím in areas where elk are! Dude camped next to me  just came in with a big ass bull this morning and was like, yeah weíve been seeing em every day.. whaaaaaat?! Iím about to loose my mind!
   So whatís the secret?! If itís that secret feel free to PM me, but honestly, Iíve never hunted this hard for ZERO results (other than Iím in the woods and not being nagged by anyone and Iím not at work)! Lol.. I finally drew a MS elk tag and donít want to waste it. Iím coming back out for muzzy season ( with my bow) and I donít want to come out and waste my time by doing the same thing I did this entire week and again not see anything.. any advice from you consistently successful guys?! Why do you guys get it done all the time and I canít even find a bull ?! Thanks!

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Re: What the heck?!
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2018, 01:57:29 PM »
Are you finding fresh sign?
I hunt, therefore I am.... I fish, therefore I lie.

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Re: What the heck?!
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2018, 02:03:19 PM »
Sounds like the vast majority of MY elk seasons!!! LOL.  You are not alone.

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Re: What the heck?!
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2018, 03:53:25 PM »
Are you finding fresh sign?

Yes sir.

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Re: What the heck?!
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2018, 03:58:10 PM »
Keep after it. When it does happen itíll be quick. Be ready.

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Re: What the heck?!
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2018, 05:27:35 PM »
Check wind often, I started having more success when I payed closer attention to the wind, especially for elk. But sometimes you can do everything right and you just miss them by 100yards or a few seconds, whatever it may be. Just stay with it. Good luck


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Re: What the heck?!
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2018, 05:47:47 PM »
Sounds like the vast majority of MY elk seasons!!! LOL.  You are not alone.
Me too  :bash:
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Re: What the heck?!
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2018, 07:15:52 PM »
It's called hunting not killing.  Sometimes you find them and sometimes you don't.
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Re: What the heck?!
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2018, 09:11:01 PM »
Not that I've harvested an elk yet ,but this year so far with the elk in the area im hunting they're not vocal at all and me  just moving really slow through an area where I know elk are at and constantly checking wind has made difference for me in at least seeing our hearing them close by.  If your calling them and you got good wind and they're not vocal then just sit and wait they might come in quiet on ya. Good luck man stick with it

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Re: What the heck?!
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2018, 10:16:08 PM »
Thanks for the replies guys! And I totally understand itís hunting and not killing. I get it man! Iím not new to this, but to spend over 90 hours in the woods and not see a legal bull or hear a bugle (from an actual elk) or call one in silent just seems like Iím not doing something right.. thatís all I was asking.. just not sure if Iím making the same mistake over and over and just dont know what that mistake is?! Iíll never give up as I just love it too much, but Iíd like to be/get better is all..

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Re: What the heck?!
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2018, 11:01:30 PM »
To put it simply:  there is no secret.  What works one day does not work the next.

Also, cows are tasty.
How long til elk season?!??

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Re: What the heck?!
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2018, 11:18:16 PM »
If that's the jungle like area of that side, are you still hunting? pick apart every limb and tree brand and everything around you before taking a few steps. If it's sign you're seeing is it droppings or tracks? follow the droppings and or tracks if it's fresh.   :dunno:
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Re: What the heck?!
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2018, 12:10:05 AM »
We just dont have the numbers of elk that we should/used to.. My hunting partner and I were talking about that the other day how when we started archery hunting it was nothing for us to have 2-6 setups a day calling to bulls.. and now, in many areas,  your lucky to get that many close encounters all season.  Granted there are areas that guys have in their back pockets that still hold good #'s of elk  :chuckle: Hopefully the wolves dont get to be detrimental to the elk herds in the rest of the state as it seems I've heard of some our better areas are getting hit pretty hard by them. 
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Re: What the heck?!
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2018, 10:43:09 AM »
Welcome to the state that sells more tags than the number of elk that we have. Elk have paid the political price! $

I realize it is probably unpopular, but I really wish we would go to a permit system.

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Re: What the heck?!
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2018, 11:32:57 AM »
Welcome to the state that sells more tags than the number of elk that we have. Elk have paid the political price! $

I realize it is probably unpopular, but I really wish we would go to a permit system.

So, first of all, not true. According to RMEF 2017 statistics, the estimated size of the WA total elk population is around 60K (https://www.fws.gov/refuge/Hanford_Reach/Wildlife_Habitat/Elk.html). The number of tags sold in 2017 is 58K. The really important number is that only 9.3% of hunters are successful, for a total of 5,465 animals taken last year. (https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/harvest/2017/elk_general.php)

It's possible the elk herd is somewhat smaller since 2014 with hoof disease but the harvest number ratio is still quite small as compared to the general population.
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