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Re: WDFW Predator Lawsuit
« Reply #195 on: February 11, 2019, 11:08:16 AM »
I would think there are rural counties and residents who have suffered losses and then had WDFW respond and do nothing who would sign onto a lawsuit. These people might be worth contacting, I will gladly provide the phone number to the SC Prosecutor if needed.

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Last week another Stevens County resident had livestock killed by a cougar and WDFW basically did nothing. The Stevens County Prosecutor and the lady were both on the local radio this morning discussing what can be done to stop this negligence by WDFW. The lady said she is especially concerned how the loss of the livestock will affect her young son.

The Stevens County prosecutor said he located a WAC that allows counties to create their own predator response teams to deal with issues. He also saif he contacted the WA State Attorney General and asked what if any law prevents the county from moving forward with some form of control actions. He said the state has not replied back.

There are so many people in this county who are fed up with WDFW's failure to manage dangerous predators. I never imagined WDFW could become so disgusting! My fingers are crossed that the county will finally take action!
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Re: WDFW Predator Lawsuit
« Reply #196 on: March 22, 2019, 04:33:22 PM »
Well it's spring ..... What's up with this lawsuit????

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Re: WDFW Predator Lawsuit
« Reply #197 on: March 22, 2019, 04:41:37 PM »
Very soon, Twisp. Keep your wolfskin on.
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Re: WDFW Predator Lawsuit
« Reply #198 on: March 22, 2019, 05:05:07 PM »
I'm a walker not a stump sitter - patience is not my best thing  8)

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Re: WDFW Predator Lawsuit
« Reply #199 on: June 05, 2019, 04:53:58 PM »
Its getting awfully close to summer...I presume based on the myriad of previous comments this lawsuit will be filed in the next few weeks and we can all see the details?
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Re: WDFW Predator Lawsuit
« Reply #200 on: June 05, 2019, 05:32:32 PM »
Its getting awfully close to summer...I presume based on the myriad of previous comments this lawsuit will be filed in the next few weeks and we can all see the details?
was just thinking about this today aswell
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Re: WDFW Predator Lawsuit
« Reply #201 on: June 05, 2019, 05:45:35 PM »
taggin interested in how this turns out

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Re: WDFW Predator Lawsuit
« Reply #202 on: June 05, 2019, 06:29:05 PM »
I have not heard anything for a while, we have a new director who seems to be working on problems as best he can. He has proposed a statewide bear opener on Aug 1 and two bear statewide, that's a positive start. The director has also made visits to Colville reassuring ranchers he is trying to work on the wolf issue, I think most ranchers are still skeptical, but the president of the cattlemen's association is hopeful for positive change. Meanwhile the county is fed up with the cougar problem and pressure from that direction is being felt by WDFW.

I'm pretty sure that the commission got the message from hunters at the Spokane meeting, maybe they are making changes? If the Department is moving in the right direction I'm wondering if the lawsuit is being reconsidered, I don't know that, but I wonder? Perhaps getting a new director who wants to make changes will help WDFW avoid a lawsuit. again I don't know this but I wonder?
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Re: WDFW Predator Lawsuit
« Reply #203 on: June 05, 2019, 06:44:24 PM »
Any changes they try to make will be opposed by the antiís and the blind followers with high emotions.  Itís a loosing battle and any win we get will just get voted out by non hunters at some point.  The lawsuit needs to happen and a judge needs to force action before itís too late.  We are spinning out of control in our predator pit and it may be too late now.  Change needs to happen before law abiding citizens are forced to do it them selves! 
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Re: WDFW Predator Lawsuit
« Reply #204 on: June 05, 2019, 06:50:49 PM »
Any changes they try to make will be opposed by the antiís and the blind followers with high emotions.  Itís a loosing battle and any win we get will just get voted out by non hunters at some point.  The lawsuit needs to happen and a judge needs to force action before itís too late.  We are spinning out of control in our predator pit and it may be too late now.  Change needs to happen before law abiding citizens are forced to do it them selves!

I agree with you but I haven't heard what is going on?
But it seems if WDFW makes enough changes it almost seems they could avoid a lawsuit?
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Re: WDFW Predator Lawsuit
« Reply #205 on: June 05, 2019, 06:57:05 PM »
Any changes they try to make will be opposed by the antiís and the blind followers with high emotions.  Itís a loosing battle and any win we get will just get voted out by non hunters at some point.  The lawsuit needs to happen and a judge needs to force action before itís too late.  We are spinning out of control in our predator pit and it may be too late now.  Change needs to happen before law abiding citizens are forced to do it them selves!

I agree with you but I haven't heard what is going on?
But it seems if WDFW makes enough changes it almost seems they could avoid a lawsuit?
my trust in the department has wore very thin.  Iím hopeful but I feel it wonít change.  Dosent matter what they do the public voice is what matters.  Most folks have no clue whatís really going on including most hunters.  Even on hunting groups I see tons of folks badgering folks killing cougar and such. They have no clue and there is no one educating the public.  Too many people donít think we need predator management. They donít see the problems and look at wolves and cougar as mystical creatures
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Re: WDFW Predator Lawsuit
« Reply #206 on: June 05, 2019, 06:59:36 PM »
Any changes they try to make will be opposed by the antiís and the blind followers with high emotions.  Itís a loosing battle and any win we get will just get voted out by non hunters at some point.  The lawsuit needs to happen and a judge needs to force action before itís too late.  We are spinning out of control in our predator pit and it may be too late now.  Change needs to happen before law abiding citizens are forced to do it them selves!

I agree with you but I haven't heard what is going on?
But it seems if WDFW makes enough changes it almost seems they could avoid a lawsuit?
my trust in the department has wore very thin.  Iím hopeful but I feel it wonít change.  Dosent matter what they do the public voice is what matters.  Most folks have no clue whatís really going on including most hunters.  Even on hunting groups I see tons of folks badgering folks killing cougar and such. They have no clue and there is no one educating the public.  Too many people donít think we need predator management. They donít see the problems and look at wolves and cougar as mystical creatures

I agree with everything you said there...
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Re: WDFW Predator Lawsuit
« Reply #207 on: June 05, 2019, 07:40:43 PM »
The lawsuit needs to happen. The public needs an education in whatís really going on.  With out both nothing will change except normally law abiding citizens going rogue and possibly paying the price.  Even the guy protecting his daughter this last week is getting flak for what he did.  Something is going to change and I sure hope no one ends up in jail over it.
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Re: WDFW Predator Lawsuit
« Reply #208 on: June 06, 2019, 06:32:59 AM »
Any changes they try to make will be opposed by the antiís and the blind followers with high emotions.  Itís a loosing battle and any win we get will just get voted out by non hunters at some point.  The lawsuit needs to happen and a judge needs to force action before itís too late.  We are spinning out of control in our predator pit and it may be too late now.  Change needs to happen before law abiding citizens are forced to do it them selves!

I agree with you but I haven't heard what is going on?
But it seems if WDFW makes enough changes it almost seems they could avoid a lawsuit?
my trust in the department has wore very thin.  Iím hopeful but I feel it wonít change.  Dosent matter what they do the public voice is what matters.  Most folks have no clue whatís really going on including most hunters.  Even on hunting groups I see tons of folks badgering folks killing cougar and such. They have no clue and there is no one educating the public.  Too many people donít think we need predator management. They donít see the problems and look at wolves and cougar as mystical creatures

Like the BS propaganda that USFWS, WDFW etc.. spew, that WE are moving into the predators territory, instead of the truth, which is the predators are out of control. Heard that line of BS the other day in a conversation about the cougar that attacked the boy in Leavenworth.

What price will be paid before there is any predator control? And will the corrupt upper management of WDFW ever be held accountable.

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,239729.0.html

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Re: WDFW Predator Lawsuit
« Reply #209 on: June 06, 2019, 10:44:20 AM »
tagging to read later.

 


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