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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2019, 01:26:27 PM »
I wonder what would cause that disease in whitebird and how it got there?  :dunno:
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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2019, 01:36:55 PM »
All it takes is for an animal carrying the disease and the right conditions and you have it.  The way people truck goats, sheep, and cattle around it is likely to be everywhere.  This could be isolated or the perfect storm.

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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2019, 01:38:17 PM »
Biologists have their hands full this year between this and Antelope Island.

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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2019, 01:40:55 PM »
Well you see Wa, Or had to get it out to a dry western state so that big timber couldn’t be blamed for it through spraying. So they loaded up some infected elk and shipped them to Idaho in the dark of night. :tinfoil: 🤯
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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2019, 01:46:07 PM »
I wonder what would cause that disease in whitebird and how it got there?  :dunno:
Cattle? Livestock?

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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2019, 01:49:34 PM »
Biologists have their hands full this year between this and Antelope Island.
I guess we can throw in hydatid cyst and prions in there also.   :yike:

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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2019, 01:51:39 PM »
Is it a conspiracy theory involving the Wilks brothers?

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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2019, 01:52:52 PM »
It was Bush’s fault.  :chuckle:

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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2019, 02:32:58 PM »
Is it a conspiracy theory involving the Wilks brothers?

Yes.  Absolutely.

I heard that corn ponds are causing hoof rot as the elk have to stand in the mud late winter when they eat up the rest of the corn.  Pretty much proven at this point if you ask me.

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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2019, 03:22:57 PM »
Interesting that y'all think it's funny. 

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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2019, 03:26:20 PM »
wow that sucks thanks for posting though I had no idea

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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2019, 03:47:00 PM »
Yeah it's definitely not good and I had no clue about it until I seen the article in my facebook feed today.

I sure hope IDFG is going to take it seriously and go balls to the wall to get right down to the cause, and try to eliminate the spread of it.

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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2019, 05:50:40 PM »
Sad day for Idaho

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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2019, 06:32:44 PM »
The only good that can come from this is if it spreads a similar disease to wolfs.

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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2019, 08:30:00 AM »
Well...the timber lands around Whitebird have been owned by private timber companies as well as the Wilks brothers...so either conspiracy theory works, but if I had to place a bet, I'd bet on the private timber company lands and spray...

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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2019, 10:15:06 AM »
I think that’s most probable as well.  :yeah:

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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2019, 10:43:57 AM »
The good news is it is in another state now.  :twocents: Maybe Idaho will truly try to come up with a solution even if it points fingers at the cause.As it is we only get what some think it is but seem to know for a fact what it's not.  :twocents:
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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2019, 10:57:55 AM »
After the extensive effort and cost that WDFW went to in studying hoof root, I will be surprised if Idaho does much more than rely on that research.
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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2019, 11:03:56 AM »
I guess we will see.  :tup:
I know they spent time and money on it here but
what cause or causes did they come up with here?
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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2019, 10:01:58 PM »
hard to believe anything WDFW says.

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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2019, 10:31:29 PM »
I don't know much about this hoof rot, some people are saying they know the cause, I didn't know Oregon or Washington had determined what caused it? But, if it can travel in soil on boots or vehicles I'm wondering why everyone is blaming the private landowners and local ranchers? Isn't it possible that hunters (thousands of them coming from WA and OR) accidentally brought it over on their boots, UTV's, or vehicles? I don't know, I'm just asking these questions to learn?
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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2019, 06:42:43 AM »
Yeah anything that can move dirt, can move dirt that has been contaminated.  So it can definitely spread that way.

 


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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2019, 07:51:16 AM »
Nothing is known for sure, from WSU's website:

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the disease is strongly associated with Treponeme bacteria

To me, that means they think that is what causes it but they aren't sure.  According to Google, that type of bacteria may be able to live outside a host for 18-21 days in ideal conditions, so the good news is that if they are right there is much more hope than with CWD.

I believe WSU received $3M from Olympia for a study that was scheduled to begin last summer.

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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2019, 09:05:42 AM »
I know many think I have tinfoil on my head but,,,  I don't think Wa. study really learned much.  They have a theory based on facts but no conclusive findings.  Trep bacteria is found in most all soils everywhere-FACT.  Begs the question why are some getting sick from it??  Could it be that the elk are sick and immune system is weak?  Very logical question of concern imop.  Could it be the chems they are 100% digesting?  Seems logical to me, especially when WE are NOT supposed to injest that much of those chems.??  Sure seems plausible to me and baffles me how so many will argue the safety of them because they work in the industry while taking precautions to not over expose themselves or others.  Blindly trusting Gov. and Chem Co. telling us its all good.  Yet if we test ourselves we will find these chems in our urine!       If they are correct and its just Trep WHY not give em antibiotics that easily treat em and proof their theory??  A study/experiment could be done.  Why do they not request this??  Is their plan to eradicate one of the most common bacteriums on the planet to save elk?  :chuckle:  Honestly I am more worried about the rampant spread of CWD which is a Zoonotic risk to US with no cure!!!!!!!!!!!!  Eating CWD meat poses a threat to us possibly!  MAD COW/MAN disease!
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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2019, 02:41:36 PM »
I know very little about it other than what I read about it on here. I think Idaho will go all out on finding the cause and possible solutions. Idaho is pretty aggressive on protecting the elk herds and I am optimistic that they will figure it out. Might just be killing the elk in the infected area? I hope not. Bottom line is it sucks and Idaho elk already have enough to deal with. The chemical spray makes sense to me as a potential cause but again I know very little  :chuckle:     

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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2019, 02:50:19 PM »
Nature. It's cheaper than therapy.

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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2019, 03:23:31 PM »
https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/health/hoof_disease/


its says the meat is PROBABLY safe to eat!! :chuckle:
What would you like them to say? There have been no known substantiated cases of humans being affected.
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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2019, 03:39:51 PM »
https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/health/hoof_disease/


its says the meat is PROBABLY safe to eat!! :chuckle:
What would you like them to say? There have been no known substantiated cases of humans being affected.

I would prefer DEFINITELY safe to eat! Or even no qualifier just safe to eat. Just joking around anyways, I thought it was kind of funny,its like maybe its safe to eat, we think so, not totally sure but go for it!

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Re: Hoof Rot in Idaho
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2019, 03:55:55 PM »
Syphillys and Ghonerea are members of the same unknown Trep bacteria family.... just saying  :yike:
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