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telephoto vs multiplier
« on: February 20, 2019, 11:47:36 AM »
Been seeing some really cool high quality photos on here, and and kind of a (extremely) novice photographer, but would be interested in getting into the wildlife stuff a little more as i can.
My question is, on a budget (small) whats the best bang for the buck, going with a telephoto, or using a lens multiplier? I've kind of tried doing some preliminary looking, but not exactly sure of pro's vs cons,  like do you get much better range but huge sacrifice in quality, or is it marginal?
also short of taking a class or something, are you guys aware of something online to help hone skills, or just shoot a lot and experiment? I havent even started getting into the post processing stuff yet.....

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Re: telephoto vs multiplier
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2019, 10:44:44 AM »
The most expensive decision I ever made, (except for deciding to marry my now ex-wife ) was when I started wildlife photography.  So be forewarned, the quest for true high quality wildlife photos is expensive and highly addictive.  If quality is your goal, then glass will be your first priority.  A great lens with a mediocre camera will produce better results than a great camera with a mediocre lens.  So the short answer is buy the best telephoto you can afford.  Don't get me wrong, lots of pros use teleconverters, but they are using them with high quality lenses so the inherent loss of quality becomes negligible.  TC's multiply more than just the image size, they multiply every defect in your lens' performance as well, including a drop in light transmission.  Which makes getting decent pics in low light situations, (when most wildlife is active) more problematic.  There are lots of options but no free lunch, I'm afraid.
As far as honing skills, there are lots of books, websites, and U-tube tutorials available, and then practice, practice, practice. 
Good luck and welcome to "Catch and release" hunting.  :chuckle:

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Re: telephoto vs multiplier
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2019, 07:44:17 PM »
There are several stores that sell used equip. Possible to get better stuff for less $$. Some good deals, some not so good deals.

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Re: telephoto vs multiplier
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2019, 01:04:19 PM »
The most expensive decision I ever made, (except for deciding to marry my now ex-wife ) was when I started wildlife photography.  So be forewarned, the quest for true high quality wildlife photos is expensive and highly addictive.  If quality is your goal, then glass will be your first priority.  A great lens with a mediocre camera will produce better results than a great camera with a mediocre lens.  So the short answer is buy the best telephoto you can afford.  Don't get me wrong, lots of pros use teleconverters, but they are using them with high quality lenses so the inherent loss of quality becomes negligible.  TC's multiply more than just the image size, they multiply every defect in your lens' performance as well, including a drop in light transmission.  Which makes getting decent pics in low light situations, (when most wildlife is active) more problematic.  There are lots of options but no free lunch, I'm afraid.
As far as honing skills, there are lots of books, websites, and U-tube tutorials available, and then practice, practice, practice. 
Good luck and welcome to "Catch and release" hunting.  :chuckle:

Any books, youtube channels or such you would recommend?
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Re: telephoto vs multiplier
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2019, 01:16:30 PM »
Steve Perry Backcountry Gallery has a lot of tricks and tips  :tup:

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Re: telephoto vs multiplier
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2019, 12:08:31 PM »
Steve Perry Backcountry Gallery has a lot of tricks and tips  :tup:

Thanks, I might have to look into some of his "e-books", for the price it'd be hard to go wrong. :tup:
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Re: telephoto vs multiplier
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2019, 12:48:48 PM »
Honestly, get the best glass you cant afford.   Im not sure good glass has ever really come down in price, even used many hold their value unless they have beaten around in the back of a truck.   Teleconverters have a place, but utilized best if shooting a prime lens.   I occasionally get some nice shots with a teleconverter but certainly not THE SHOT.   Many times they become "document" type photos, not the one you want blown up and on your wall.    That being said, telecoverters are like $200 or two tanks of gas, so you probably should have one in your camera bag.

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Re: telephoto vs multiplier
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2019, 01:54:16 PM »
Honestly, get the best glass you cant afford.   Im not sure good glass has ever really come down in price, even used many hold their value unless they have beaten around in the back of a truck.   Teleconverters have a place, but utilized best if shooting a prime lens.   I occasionally get some nice shots with a teleconverter but certainly not THE SHOT.   Many times they become "document" type photos, not the one you want blown up and on your wall.    That being said, telecoverters are like $200 or two tanks of gas, so you probably should have one in your camera bag.
Thanks for the breakdown, it’ll be a while before I pull trigger on a bigger lens, but this helps steer me in a direction to start looking :tup:
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Re: telephoto vs multiplier
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2019, 10:57:24 AM »
to add onto bd's post, obviously there are better lens companies than others. who is the best bet? Im in the same boat and luckily have a family member into photography but is 2000 miles away. shes sending me a 2x extender to use. I have a 75-300mm canon lens with a T6 body (entry camera i know). should you stick to body specific lenses or look at someone like sigma lenses?

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Re: telephoto vs multiplier
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2019, 01:07:29 PM »
to add onto bd's post, obviously there are better lens companies than others. who is the best bet? Im in the same boat and luckily have a family member into photography but is 2000 miles away. shes sending me a 2x extender to use. I have a 75-300mm canon lens with a T6 body (entry camera i know). should you stick to body specific lenses or look at someone like sigma lenses?

I stick to Canon now as much as possible.    I have used others in the past from Sigma and Tamron that were compatible.   They worked.  Hey its what I could afford at the time.

 


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