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Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« on: May 11, 2019, 07:35:44 PM »
I’m building a custom 7mm WSM for my new precision rifle. I’ve been looking at building a custom precision rifle for a while and my buddy has built many. His 7mm WSM holds a true sub MOA at 1000 yrds and still has over 1000 ftlbf to give.

So the question is, who’s got experience with carbon fiber barrels? All he runs are Christensen barrels but being custom, takes 6-8 months to receive one. I have looked at a CarbonSix barrel for my build, but I wanted to see if anyone had some input.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2019, 07:55:52 PM »
Proof.

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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2019, 08:18:23 PM »
Hells Canyon Armory makes a unique carbon barrel. Call and talk to Mike, I think he was even a member here.

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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2019, 08:21:04 PM »
Buddy has sent his Christainsen back 3 times ( wouldn't shoot under 2" @ 100yrds. He switched to a Proof Research and has never had a problem.  Also I believe  Hells Canyon Armory  ( Site Sponsor I believe ) dabbles in Carbon wrapped barrels
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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2019, 08:31:28 PM »
 ;)if your buddies rifle holds sub moa at 1000yds build exactly what he has!

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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2019, 08:50:41 PM »
Benchmark barrels.
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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2019, 09:07:21 PM »
Benchmark barrels.
Buy local ,Great barrels and great guys to deal with.

Benchmark doesn’t make carbon barrels.

They do, however, provide the steel core/blanks to Hells Canyon Armory for their carbon barrels.

This is what I heard anyway.

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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2019, 09:42:01 PM »
Proof research. I had a .300RUM built with a 28” CF tube. Love it! .28moa at 100yds w 200grn Accubonds.

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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2019, 09:58:52 PM »
Short answer, if you like how carbon wrapped barrels look and you are ok paying double + for a carbon wrapped barrel, absolutely get one, BUT, keep in mind, there is little to zero advantage, other than aesthetics, to a carbon wrapped barrel versus an all steel barrel of equal quality. 

Just about all of the different companies that do carbon fiber wrapped barrels will give you their sales pitch about how they wrap them in such a different and special way that their process is so much better and they'll also tell you about how the resin they use is so much better than all the other companies and their barrels dissipate heat like no other.  When you boil all the sales pitch BS off, it pretty much comes down to how they look.

Personally, I like how they look so it's not like I am dissing on carbon wrapped barrels, in fact I'm putting a Proof Research 6.5 Creedmoor barrel on a new AR10 I recently bought, but I'd be lying if I said I thought there was any advantage over an all steel barrel because there just isn't.  I think they look cool so I'm going to use one, but that's the only reason.


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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2019, 10:18:43 PM »
I am either old, old fashioned, or just cheap.  But give me a quality steel barrel any day over the new fad.  Put that extra money on a new trigger, better glass etc etc.

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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2019, 11:40:58 PM »
Proof.

Anytime! Feel free to come with! I’ve got the ballistic data to go along with it!

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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2019, 11:43:02 PM »
Short answer, if you like how carbon wrapped barrels look and you are ok paying double + for a carbon wrapped barrel, absolutely get one, BUT, keep in mind, there is little to zero advantage, other than aesthetics, to a carbon wrapped barrel versus an all steel barrel of equal quality. 

Just about all of the different companies that do carbon fiber wrapped barrels will give you their sales pitch about how they wrap them in such a different and special way that their process is so much better and they'll also tell you about how the resin they use is so much better than all the other companies and their barrels dissipate heat like no other.  When you boil all the sales pitch BS off, it pretty much comes down to how they look.

Personally, I like how they look so it's not like I am dissing on carbon wrapped barrels, in fact I'm putting a Proof Research 6.5 Creedmoor barrel on a new AR10 I recently bought, but I'd be lying if I said I thought there was any advantage over an all steel barrel because there just isn't.  I think they look cool so I'm going to use one, but that's the only reason.

Weight.....

I’m going with a Mausingfield action too! About 1100$

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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2019, 11:44:06 PM »
I am either old, old fashioned, or just cheap.  But give me a quality steel barrel any day over the new fad.  Put that extra money on a new trigger, better glass etc etc.


Nothing about this build is cheap. 1100$ Mausingfield action, 1200$ stock, Nightforce scope.... total build cost is about 4800

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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2019, 12:07:02 AM »
Proof.

Anytime! Feel free to come with! I’ve got the ballistic data to go along with it!

I don't think he was asking for proof.

I think he was pointing you toward Proof Research barrels.
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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2019, 12:13:23 AM »
I got nothing for you as far as carbon fiber, but will 2nd the benchmark barrel crew and quality work.  I went with a #5 contour so it isnt exactly light, but shoots at least 1/2 MOA.  And to spin a barrel for you, I would guess 3 months or less.  Price at 390ish, another 120 for a brake, and 110 for cerakote.  Maybe do some barrel flutes and shave off some weight :dunno:

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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2019, 12:52:31 AM »
Proof.

Anytime! Feel free to come with! I’ve got the ballistic data to go along with it!

 I don't think he was asking, but rather suggesting. ;)
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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2019, 08:39:26 AM »
They are only lighter if you are comparing them to an equal diameter all steel barrel and in that case, the all steel barrel of the same diameter is going to be substantially stiffer.  A #3 contour all steel barrel is pretty much equal to a wrapped barrel.

Like I said earlier, I like how they look and prefer the look of a larger contour, especially when the barrel diameter matches that of the muzzle brake and with a CF wrapped barrel you get that without the added weight, but again, it's purely a aesthetic benefit and nothing else.

Also, if lightweight is your goal, I probably wouldn't be using a NF scope because they are anything but light.

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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2019, 09:46:47 AM »
I am either old, old fashioned, or just cheap.  But give me a quality steel barrel any day over the new fad.  Put that extra money on a new trigger, better glass etc etc.


Nothing about this build is cheap. 1100$ Mausingfield action, 1200$ stock, Nightforce scope.... total build cost is about 4800

Where did you find a Mausinfield for $1100? The Nucleus is about that price but both the Archimedes and the Mausingfield are over $1400.

I'm with b23 on this one, carbon barrels are more about aesthetics than function. The quality of the blank that's getting wrapped is what makes them shoot well, no the magical properties of carbon fiber. You can get 2 quality steel barrel blanks for the cost of some CF barrels right now.

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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2019, 03:17:06 PM »
I’ve got two proofs.  28” in 28 nosler an 30” in .338 RUM.   Very good barrels

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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2019, 03:28:28 PM »
Mini thread jack:

I know NOTHING about carbon fiber barrels.

Where's a good place to start reading?
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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2019, 05:37:42 PM »
Mini thread jack:

I know NOTHING about carbon fiber barrels.

Where's a good place to start reading?

The best thing to start reading is your bank statement, it's going to be hurt the most by a carbon fiber barrel. :chuckle:

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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2019, 09:32:49 PM »
The only person truly coming out ahead is the guy selling the carbon barrels.😬

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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2019, 09:41:42 AM »
Bought a Christensen Arms AR barrel and sent it back. Was not impressed with the quality of the carbon fiber layup. Very wavy. Proof research machines theirs down smooth.

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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2019, 11:37:05 AM »
Bought a Christensen Arms AR barrel and sent it back. Was not impressed with the quality of the carbon fiber layup. Very wavy. Proof research machines theirs down smooth.

I have zero experience with CA's barrels but I did just put a Proof Research CF wrapped 6.5 Creed barrel on my Seekins SP10 and I have to say, Proof does a really nice job with their CF wrapping process because aesthetically, my barrel looks really good.  Haven't shot it yet, but if it shoots as good as it looks, I'll be one happy camper!  :tup:

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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2019, 08:17:40 AM »
Check out Oregon Mountain Rifle Company...they are located about 10 minutes up the Gorge from Portland in the tiny town of Corbett, Oregon. They have great turn around time, and are as custom as you want it to be, either lathing down your current barrel and carbon fiber wrapping it, or a completely new barrel. Best part is when you call you are actually talking to the owner/gunsmith himself, Lee Freeman, so you know exactly what he can do and what your looking at (cost, time, accuracy, etc.)

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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2019, 08:54:32 AM »
I've got a Hell's Canyon Armory barrel that I'm extremely satisfied with.  If I shot the gun more than I do, I would have gone steel.

When I eventually rebarrel it, I'll go steel but I really like the carbon that's on there for now. It shoots great, weighs a little less and looks swag.
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Re: Advice on Carbon fiber barrels
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2019, 09:50:58 AM »
I wouldn't put em on everything but my HCA barrelled Lapua rifle is my favorite - I went carbon to keep total package with optics at 10#.  If I was going a 7mm WSM its already light so probably go with a Benchmark steel.   

 


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