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Changes to hunting and fishing regulations on refuges
« on: June 17, 2019, 07:34:13 AM »
Hopefully this changes a few things on the LPO refuge, currently hunters get tickets if they shoot grouse along the refuge's roads, I've been told the refuge officers use a grouse decoy to entice grouse hunters who unknowing think they can shoot grouse along the mountain roads like anywhere else in WA. I've always thought that was very unfair, it's been going on since the USFWS took over management of the refuge from the state.

Plan would expand hunting, fishing in wildlife refuges
https://www.outdoornews.com/2019/06/11/plan-to-expand-hunting-fishing-in-wildlife-refuges/?mc_cid=17f8ddb73a&mc_eid=2282170404

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Interior Department land managers were told last September to review hunting and fishing regulations to determine where they conflict with state regulations, with a goal of deferring to state management unless they clash with federal law.

A comprehensive review of federal and state rules is something that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service had never been done before, Bernhardt said.

Under the proposed expansion at sites in 46 states, the number of wildlife refuges where hunting would be allowed would increase by five to 382 while fishing would be allowed at 316 locations.
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Re: Changes to hunting and fishing regulations on refuges
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2019, 07:24:32 PM »
LPO is not effected. There are minimal changes proposed to refuges in WA. I've listed those changes in another thread.

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Re: Changes to hunting and fishing regulations on refuges
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2019, 07:28:46 PM »
Hopefully this changes a few things on the LPO refuge, currently hunters get tickets if they shoot grouse along the refuge's roads, I've been told the refuge officers use a grouse decoy to entice grouse hunters who unknowing think they can shoot grouse along the mountain roads like anywhere else in WA. I've always thought that was very unfair, it's been going on since the USFWS took over management of the refuge from the state.

Plan would expand hunting, fishing in wildlife refuges
https://www.outdoornews.com/2019/06/11/plan-to-expand-hunting-fishing-in-wildlife-refuges/?mc_cid=17f8ddb73a&mc_eid=2282170404

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Interior Department land managers were told last September to review hunting and fishing regulations to determine where they conflict with state regulations, with a goal of deferring to state management unless they clash with federal law.

A comprehensive review of federal and state rules is something that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service had never been done before, Bernhardt said.

Under the proposed expansion at sites in 46 states, the number of wildlife refuges where hunting would be allowed would increase by five to 382 while fishing would be allowed at 316 locations.
LPO has been ran by the feds since 1939..

It's a wildlife refuge, not a hunting preserve. Legally all refuges are closed to all access unless opened, and when they are its with a lot of restrictions. Their purpose is to protect all wildlife, not to provide for ample hunting spots

Compared to other refuges LPO has a large hunting program. Also happens to be the only refuge in the state where it's legal to shoot coyotes.

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Re: Changes to hunting and fishing regulations on refuges
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2019, 07:56:50 PM »
Hopefully this changes a few things on the LPO refuge, currently hunters get tickets if they shoot grouse along the refuge's roads, I've been told the refuge officers use a grouse decoy to entice grouse hunters who unknowing think they can shoot grouse along the mountain roads like anywhere else in WA. I've always thought that was very unfair, it's been going on since the USFWS took over management of the refuge from the state.

Plan would expand hunting, fishing in wildlife refuges
https://www.outdoornews.com/2019/06/11/plan-to-expand-hunting-fishing-in-wildlife-refuges/?mc_cid=17f8ddb73a&mc_eid=2282170404

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Interior Department land managers were told last September to review hunting and fishing regulations to determine where they conflict with state regulations, with a goal of deferring to state management unless they clash with federal law.

A comprehensive review of federal and state rules is something that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service had never been done before, Bernhardt said.

Under the proposed expansion at sites in 46 states, the number of wildlife refuges where hunting would be allowed would increase by five to 382 while fishing would be allowed at 316 locations.
LPO has been ran by the feds since 1939..

It's a wildlife refuge, not a hunting preserve. Legally all refuges are closed to all access unless opened, and when they are its with a lot of restrictions. Their purpose is to protect all wildlife, not to provide for ample hunting spots

Compared to other refuges LPO has a large hunting program. Also happens to be the only refuge in the state where it's legal to shoot coyotes.

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I agree with ya.
But LPO is only open to hunting sept-jan 1
Even coyote can not be hunted year round.
Yes compared to other wildlife refuges we are lucky to get to hunt it.I don't think there will be any changes to seasons or regulation on lpo refuge.
Two birds in the Bush is always better than one in the hand-that way you can always go to the Bush and hunt another day .conservation=Better hunting.
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Re: Changes to hunting and fishing regulations on refuges
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2019, 05:25:51 PM »

[/quote]...................LPO has been ran by the feds since 1939.......................

/quote]

Yes, and no.

The LPO was OWNED by the Feds since 1939.

HOWEVER, it was run by the State of Washington Game Department for years. I lived in the area from 1980 to 1985 and the state had management responsibility.

This happens more than you think...for example...the State Parks in the Wenatchee Valley are actually OWNED by Chelan County PUD #1. They are managed by state parks under a contract with the PUD.

Those of us in the Wenatchee Valley would love to kick out the State Parks and return the areas to local management.

Hope this helps in understanding the issues.

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Re: Changes to hunting and fishing regulations on refuges
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2019, 09:18:50 AM »

...................LPO has been ran by the feds since 1939.......................

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Yes, and no.

The LPO was OWNED by the Feds since 1939.

HOWEVER, it was run by the State of Washington Game Department for years. I lived in the area from 1980 to 1985 and the state had management responsibility.

This happens more than you think...for example...the State Parks in the Wenatchee Valley are actually OWNED by Chelan County PUD #1. They are managed by state parks under a contract with the PUD.

Those of us in the Wenatchee Valley would love to kick out the State Parks and return the areas to local management.

Hope this helps in understanding the issues.

 :yeah:  exactly, I've lived here my whole life too, and WDFW used to oversee the LPO and the rules were more similar to other WDFW management areas.. Now it is under federal regulations!
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Re: Changes to hunting and fishing regulations on refuges
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2019, 05:04:58 PM »

...................LPO has been ran by the feds since 1939.......................

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Yes, and no.

The LPO was OWNED by the Feds since 1939.

HOWEVER, it was run by the State of Washington Game Department for years. I lived in the area from 1980 to 1985 and the state had management responsibility.

This happens more than you think...for example...the State Parks in the Wenatchee Valley are actually OWNED by Chelan County PUD #1. They are managed by state parks under a contract with the PUD.

Those of us in the Wenatchee Valley would love to kick out the State Parks and return the areas to local management.

Hope this helps in understanding the issues.

 :yeah:  exactly, I've lived here my whole life too, and WDFW used to oversee the LPO and the rules were more similar to other WDFW management areas.. Now it is under federal regulations!
Well it is a federal refuge...

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