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Offline Wolfdog2314

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Labradar Help
« on: June 18, 2019, 03:27:10 PM »
Second time to the range with my new Labradar and still havenít gotten it figured out. Iím having problems with ďunit not acquiring shotĒ and sometimes it will just shut off when I shoot. Using new batteries. Tried it off a tripod and off of the base on a concrete bench.
Iíve aligned it the best I can with the notch. Iíve placed it within 6-18 inches and adjusted the setting for that. Iíve been anywhere from 3-4inches behind the muzzle break.
Sometimes I can string together 3-4 shots, and then it will miss a shot or two, then catch a few, then miss more. I seem to catch more shots with my 6.5 PRC w/radial break vs the 300wsm with side break.

Iíve read using a small tube or straw to place in the notch for alignment. Iíll try that next.
Iíve also read that some guys will have the unit as far back as their scope to prevent any blast at all from interfering.

If anyone has any tips or tricks to try let me know.

Offset- tried all 6,12,18 none seem consistent, and all within 3-4 inches behind break.
Distances- using the factory setting. Itís something like 10,20,30,40,50
Trigger- trigger
Trigger level- 1 most sensitive
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Target is at 100 yards.

I shot with a buddy a year ago with his. We shot multiple calibers by it and it would catch em all with out repositioning much at all. It didnít seem finicky in the slightest.

Help before I throw this 600$ machine in the trash! I called Gunwerks who I bought it thru and they said ďyah we just put it up next to it about 6 inches and shoot and it works great!Ē They were helpful as they could be and said they will do any replacement or warranty for it. Labradarís phone is disconnected at the moment...

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Re: Labradar Help
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2019, 06:43:25 PM »
Blast shield?
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Re: Labradar Help
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2019, 07:26:48 PM »
Just put the unit 6Ē infront of the muzzle break.

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Re: Labradar Help
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2019, 07:43:57 PM »
For non braked guns I set the unit up aligned with the muzzle. For braked guns I set it up pretty far back...roughly where the front stud is on the stock. 18Ē offset from the barrel. 

Getting the preferences set right is critical. It sounds like you may need to adjust the sensitivity level. If it will help I can send you how my preferences are set.

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Re: Labradar Help
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2019, 08:08:49 PM »
For non braked guns I set the unit up aligned with the muzzle. For braked guns I set it up pretty far back...roughly where the front stud is on the stock. 18Ē offset from the barrel. 

Getting the preferences set right is critical. It sounds like you may need to adjust the sensitivity level. If it will help I can send you how my preferences are set.


Maybe I need to try setting the unit back much further than I am. Bringing the unit back will be much easier than going forward, to be able to work well on the bench I use.

Iím definitely open to seeing what u have your preferences set at, thanks!

I will consider some sort of blast shield if I canít get anything else to work. Iíd really like to think that once I find the sweet spot in position and settings I wonít have any more problems.

Thanks all.

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Re: Labradar Help
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2019, 08:37:21 PM »
I read this wrong and came here expecting a dog related topic.  :chuckle:

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Re: Labradar Help
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2019, 07:13:21 AM »
I had similar set up configuration issues when I first started. I tried using the orange base plate and concluded it moves from muzzle blast and vibration causing target misalignment. You can counter this by placing a weight on the baseplate (bag of lead shot works). But I found its much easier to use a tripod and keep it to the side of the bench. A played with blast shields and found they werenít necessary if I moved the unit back and kept the 18Ē offset. This works well with braked guns at least up to 338 edge which generates a pile of muzzle blast!!!! 
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Re: Labradar Help
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2019, 12:31:59 PM »
Awesome ok great guys thanks. Labradar emailed me back also.

It seems the consensus is to:

Add a tube to the notch to aid in target alignment

Move the unit further back. Labradar suggested 6-8 inches back. They also said my settings were correct.

Iíve got a tripod and the base plate to mess with. Iíll be mindful to make sure that either are properly secured to the ground or bench.

Hope this does the trick!

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Re: Labradar Help
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2019, 03:22:18 PM »
You should be good to go!  I use a small drinking straw as a sight plane...I piece of coat hangar rod works great too.
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Re: Labradar Help
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2019, 03:47:02 PM »
battery check, i run a brick with cord... also check input of initial data. there is even a field for grain of bullets, have forgotten to change that from rifle to rifle before and gotten the no read errors.
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Re: Labradar Help
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2019, 04:19:45 PM »
These lab radars seem like a huge pia.   I just slap my magneto speed on and get speeds.  Easy as that
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Re: Labradar Help
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2019, 04:33:49 PM »
Iíve heard of blast causing batteries to rattle and turning the machine off. I plan on ordering up a battery brick off amazon. Good excuse as Iíll take it on hunting trips too!

Apparently thereís a lot of complaints with initial setup. But once itís dialed in, itís supposed to be awesome, and thatís why I went with it over the Magneto. 
This could all just be operator error too!  :o

I didnít think the bullet grain function affected things as much as that. Iíll look further in to that also.

Thanks again for the input guys.

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Re: Labradar Help
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2019, 04:37:33 PM »
These lab radars seem like a huge pia.   I just slap my magneto speed on and get speeds.  Easy as that
Ohhh no you diíaint!!!

First you pick on us little 30 cal lovers then you go and trash talk the LabRadar folks.  You obviously donít know how sensitive those folk are cause themís fighten words to a LR owner. LOL

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Re: Labradar Help
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2019, 06:54:27 PM »
These lab radars seem like a huge pia.   I just slap my magneto speed on and get speeds.  Easy as that

Nah not really. They do take a few minutes to configure and if you donít have the preferences set up right they can be finicky. But thatís user error not the device.

For load development there is no better option out there IMO. My magnetospeed was great at gathering velocity data but it was useless for testing group precision.  I just got tired of doing two sets of testing. One for velocity and ES and a second for group size.  It came down to a time verses money equation.

Itís not perfect. Will be interesting to see where technology goes to support the recent surge in log range shooting. As long as the economy is hot and people have money to dispose on toys we will see a lot of cool stuff!   :tup:
« Last Edit: June 19, 2019, 07:00:10 PM by CaNINE »
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Re: Labradar Help
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2019, 06:58:36 PM »
These lab radars seem like a huge pia.   I just slap my magneto speed on and get speeds.  Easy as that
Ohhh no you diíaint!!!

First you pick on us little 30 cal lovers then you go and trash talk the LabRadar folks.  You obviously donít know how sensitive those folk are cause themís fighten words to a LR owner. LOL
:chuckle:  I just call it like it is......in my eyes

Never has the magneto speed affected group size on any rifle I own....corse my barrels resemble a truck axle
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