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Quote from: meatwhack on June 27, 2019, 08:37:55 AMQuote from: NOCK NOCK on June 27, 2019, 08:23:59 AMQuote from: meatwhack on June 27, 2019, 05:03:34 AMI’ve got a question for the guys hanging multiple stands and leaving them or even just a single stand. Would you be just as upset if someone was sitting at the base of the tree your stand is in as if they were actually in it and also would you expect them to move if you showed up.If you were the guy sitting at the base of a tree with someone else’s stand in it, and the stand owner showed up, climbed into his stand, and sat there to hunt. Would you be upset??I’d say I had more right to be there if I showed up first that day over someone who hung a stand months or years ago but I’m sure some won’t agree with that. Just like a fishing spot. If I go set a lawn chair on the bank somewhere before the season opens does that mean nobody should fish within 100’ of it even if I’m not there or if I show up they should leave because I marked my spot with a lawn chair.Public land, first come, first serve. That's the chance you take when you put up your stand. This is especially true if I've been scouting that spot for months and all of a sudden, a stand appears. Just leaving your private property on public land doesn't give you rights over anyone else.
Quote from: NOCK NOCK on June 27, 2019, 08:23:59 AMQuote from: meatwhack on June 27, 2019, 05:03:34 AMI’ve got a question for the guys hanging multiple stands and leaving them or even just a single stand. Would you be just as upset if someone was sitting at the base of the tree your stand is in as if they were actually in it and also would you expect them to move if you showed up.If you were the guy sitting at the base of a tree with someone else’s stand in it, and the stand owner showed up, climbed into his stand, and sat there to hunt. Would you be upset??I’d say I had more right to be there if I showed up first that day over someone who hung a stand months or years ago but I’m sure some won’t agree with that. Just like a fishing spot. If I go set a lawn chair on the bank somewhere before the season opens does that mean nobody should fish within 100’ of it even if I’m not there or if I show up they should leave because I marked my spot with a lawn chair.
Quote from: meatwhack on June 27, 2019, 05:03:34 AMI’ve got a question for the guys hanging multiple stands and leaving them or even just a single stand. Would you be just as upset if someone was sitting at the base of the tree your stand is in as if they were actually in it and also would you expect them to move if you showed up.If you were the guy sitting at the base of a tree with someone else’s stand in it, and the stand owner showed up, climbed into his stand, and sat there to hunt. Would you be upset??
I’ve got a question for the guys hanging multiple stands and leaving them or even just a single stand. Would you be just as upset if someone was sitting at the base of the tree your stand is in as if they were actually in it and also would you expect them to move if you showed up.
I dont stand hunt and I dont run trail cams.i was raised to respect others, their property, and respect hard work. I was taught that you dont plop down next to someone and cast a line when fishing and if you encounter another hunter you give them a wide birth.If I stumble on a cam, I spin on my heels and circle it as to not contaminate the site. If I see a stand I do the same thing. It's not mine, I didnt put in the work to earn the money to purchase the gear, I didnt put in the work to get it there, and I didnt put in the work to maintain it. This whole "its public land so I have the right" crap is such a lame argument for just being a greedy as*ho**. Put in your own work and put in your own time, dont leech off of others. I demand better from my fellow sportsmen
welcome to combat hunting, where might makes right.
Quote from: SuperX on June 27, 2019, 09:28:27 AMwelcome to combat hunting, where might makes right.What about 1st come, 1st serve do you have a problem with? Just because someone put a stand there on public land doesn't mean 1. they're going to be using it, and 2. They have a right to lock down that land.I know many hunters who have multiple tree stands, but of course can only use one at a time. Let's say I have 5 tree stands over 5 wallows. Does that mean I have exclusive rights to all of those locations to the detriment of every other hunter? If you don't like the rules of public land hunting, find some private land where you can be exclusive. The same goes for trailcams. I know hunters who have 10-20 trailcams out. If I pick a hunting spot and find a trail cam there, am I supposed to yield to someone who may never come in? Does setting that cam give them ownership of that spot if they're not there first? It does not.
Quote from: pianoman9701 on June 27, 2019, 09:43:53 AMQuote from: SuperX on June 27, 2019, 09:28:27 AMwelcome to combat hunting, where might makes right.What about 1st come, 1st serve do you have a problem with? Just because someone put a stand there on public land doesn't mean 1. they're going to be using it, and 2. They have a right to lock down that land.I know many hunters who have multiple tree stands, but of course can only use one at a time. Let's say I have 5 tree stands over 5 wallows. Does that mean I have exclusive rights to all of those locations to the detriment of every other hunter? If you don't like the rules of public land hunting, find some private land where you can be exclusive. The same goes for trailcams. I know hunters who have 10-20 trailcams out. If I pick a hunting spot and find a trail cam there, am I supposed to yield to someone who may never come in? Does setting that cam give them ownership of that spot if they're not there first? It does not.I have no problem with FCFS, it's those who say 'it's public land, why is the first guy getting all the rights, I'm here now, so I'll hunt wherever I want to' that I see as the problem. When we stop following FCFS we have combat hunting/fishing/camping when the 2nd comers all claim they have equal rights to the first comer's ground they're standing on. They're technically right and we've all had situations where some late arrival sets up right on top of you and ruins your day but there's nothing you can do unless you want to get into a fight.Of course you don't have to leave if there's a cam there - but they don't have to leave if you're there. It sucks that ethics in the woods means nothing to so many. In my experience, the bigger the party the less the individual's claim means. Of course it is the same problem when you're walking an unimproved road and a quad rips by you because they can.
Quote from: SuperX on June 27, 2019, 09:48:59 AMQuote from: pianoman9701 on June 27, 2019, 09:43:53 AMQuote from: SuperX on June 27, 2019, 09:28:27 AMwelcome to combat hunting, where might makes right.What about 1st come, 1st serve do you have a problem with? Just because someone put a stand there on public land doesn't mean 1. they're going to be using it, and 2. They have a right to lock down that land.I know many hunters who have multiple tree stands, but of course can only use one at a time. Let's say I have 5 tree stands over 5 wallows. Does that mean I have exclusive rights to all of those locations to the detriment of every other hunter? If you don't like the rules of public land hunting, find some private land where you can be exclusive. The same goes for trailcams. I know hunters who have 10-20 trailcams out. If I pick a hunting spot and find a trail cam there, am I supposed to yield to someone who may never come in? Does setting that cam give them ownership of that spot if they're not there first? It does not.I have no problem with FCFS, it's those who say 'it's public land, why is the first guy getting all the rights, I'm here now, so I'll hunt wherever I want to' that I see as the problem. When we stop following FCFS we have combat hunting/fishing/camping when the 2nd comers all claim they have equal rights to the first comer's ground they're standing on. They're technically right and we've all had situations where some late arrival sets up right on top of you and ruins your day but there's nothing you can do unless you want to get into a fight.Of course you don't have to leave if there's a cam there - but they don't have to leave if you're there. It sucks that ethics in the woods means nothing to so many. In my experience, the bigger the party the less the individual's claim means. Of course it is the same problem when you're walking an unimproved road and a quad rips by you because they can.By 'second-comer' do you guys mean second to the spot, because the stand and camera are there first? Or do you mean if someone is in there hunting? If someone is hunting an area you should give them room, I've been talking about stands and cameras left out