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Spring bear poll

I have sent emails to wdfw requesting some form of increased spring bear opportunity
48 (98%)
I have emailed the department in opposition to increased spring bear hunting
1 (2%)

Total Members Voted: 49

Author Topic: Spring bear changes on the table!!!  (Read 12304 times)

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Re: Spring bear changes on the table!!!
« Reply #135 on: September 04, 2019, 12:18:28 PM »
Ok, let's take a step back, take a deep breath and come back to this when you cool down and let civility in.
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Re: Spring bear changes on the table!!!
« Reply #136 on: September 04, 2019, 12:18:36 PM »
It looks like they got rid of the Kapowsin permits because Hancock (the land owner)  asked them too. They probably want to do spring feeding and or run hounds. But I don't really see this as the game department taking them away but as the landowner doing it.

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Re: Spring bear changes on the table!!!
« Reply #137 on: September 04, 2019, 12:19:20 PM »
I think the hide sealing requirement is ridiculous.

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Re: Spring bear changes on the table!!!
« Reply #138 on: September 04, 2019, 12:20:24 PM »
Look at the number of hunter reports that are submitted for spring bear permits. It's a very low percentage. So, kind of pointless to argue numbers when the data isn't even close to being complete.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2019, 12:29:15 PM by bobcat »

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Re: Spring bear changes on the table!!!
« Reply #139 on: September 04, 2019, 12:28:01 PM »
It looks like they got rid of the Kapowsin permits because Hancock (the land owner)  asked them too. They probably want to do spring feeding and or run hounds. But I don't really see this as the game department taking them away but as the landowner doing it.

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I really dont care WHY they were removed, the fact is that we now have 111 less spring permits available, so you cant call it an increase in permits.  We have less permits available now for the same number of applicants.

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Re: Spring bear changes on the table!!!
« Reply #140 on: September 04, 2019, 12:29:24 PM »
Look at the number of harvest reports that are submitted for spring bear permits. It's a very low percentage. So, kind of pointless to argue numbers when the data isn't even close to being complete.

Its not complete data, no, but its a good indicator.  And every year i either know locals who draw, or people i know know locals who draw, and they all use the tags.

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Re: Spring bear changes on the table!!!
« Reply #141 on: September 04, 2019, 12:32:48 PM »
Look at the number of harvest reports that are submitted for spring bear permits. It's a very low percentage. So, kind of pointless to argue numbers when the data isn't even close to being complete.

Its not complete data, no, but its a good indicator.  And every year i either know locals who draw, or people i know know locals who draw, and they all use the tags.

I meant to say "hunter" reports, not harvest. People aren't submitting their reports as they're required to do, so in reality, the WDFW does not have reliable data to show how many are hunting or not hunting.

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Re: Spring bear changes on the table!!!
« Reply #142 on: September 04, 2019, 12:39:10 PM »
This sucks, my wenaha unit will be even tougher to draw now.  Mandatory check in with your bear???  Really?  Guess I just don’t report getting a bear from now on.
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Re: Spring bear changes on the table!!!
« Reply #143 on: September 04, 2019, 01:36:15 PM »
Absurd.  :bash: WDFW really does cater to the leftist, anti-hunting crowd. I wrote them a long detailed letter on the survey board explaining the flaws in the new proposals and questioning why all the ideas that we proposed to them were not incorporated. But I'm sure my comments will be completely ignored and disregarded like all hunter comments and intelligent input are.  :)
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Re: Spring bear changes on the table!!!
« Reply #144 on: September 04, 2019, 01:39:54 PM »
It looks like they got rid of the Kapowsin permits because Hancock (the land owner)  asked them too. They probably want to do spring feeding and or run hounds. But I don't really see this as the game department taking them away but as the landowner doing it.

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I really dont care WHY they were removed, the fact is that we now have 111 less spring permits available, so you cant call it an increase in permits.  We have less permits available now for the same number of applicants.

 
I would bet that the applicant number will drop. 
You assume applicants will put in for other areas, but I would bet locals to the Kapowsin area only put in because it's their backyard, they know the area, and know where to hunt.

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Re: Spring bear changes on the table!!!
« Reply #145 on: September 04, 2019, 01:40:58 PM »
Absurd.  :bash: WDFW really does cater to the leftist, anti-hunting crowd. I wrote them a long detailed letter on the survey board explaining the flaws in the new proposals and questioning why all the ideas that we proposed to them were not incorporated. But I'm sure my comments will be completely ignored and disregarded like all hunter comments and intelligent input are.  :)

I didnt see a survey yet.  Got a link for me?

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Re: Spring bear changes on the table!!!
« Reply #146 on: September 04, 2019, 01:48:32 PM »
It looks like they got rid of the Kapowsin permits because Hancock (the land owner)  asked them too. They probably want to do spring feeding and or run hounds. But I don't really see this as the game department taking them away but as the landowner doing it.

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I really dont care WHY they were removed, the fact is that we now have 111 less spring permits available, so you cant call it an increase in permits.  We have less permits available now for the same number of applicants.

 
I would bet that the applicant number will drop. 
You assume applicants will put in for other areas, but I would bet locals to the Kapowsin area only put in because it's their backyard, they know the area, and know where to hunt.

I was thinking the same thing. Someone who is willing to put in for a tag that requires a $300 access permit is likely trying to do Saturday walk-ins.

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Re: Spring bear changes on the table!!!
« Reply #147 on: September 04, 2019, 02:18:17 PM »

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Re: Spring bear changes on the table!!!
« Reply #148 on: September 04, 2019, 02:43:27 PM »
Took survey, gave them the tune up they deserved!   :bash:

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Re: Spring bear changes on the table!!!
« Reply #149 on: September 04, 2019, 02:53:42 PM »
Kind of off topic, but you know what i would like to see?  Reduced price non resident bear tags for units where our herds are hurting the worst, like in idaho.  With the new fall bear regs, wa could be a destination state for bear hunters, even without baiting and hounds.  Reduced price non res bear licenses could entice people to come here in august and assist us with our predator control.  otc spring would increase that even more. 

 


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