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Educational call-in
« on: August 18, 2019, 09:30:10 AM »
Calling in this sow for my second tag was a pretty educational experience for me, as this was the first time i actually had my eyes on a predator before i started calling.  Always before ive just cold called in areas with good sign.
  The area id been hunting is just infested with range cattle, and some of them had really bad attitudes.  Theyve been a pain in my butt every day, so i decided to bail out to an area with no cattle.  I remembered an area i went and explored a little in 2017, and found lots of berries, water and bear scat.  Decided that would be the perfect place to go.  On my drive up the mountain i came around a curve just in time to see a smallish bear scramble down out of a tree and take off like its ass was on fire, figured that was a good omen.
  I parked my truck a half mile down the road from an old overgrown grassy skidder that goes up into a real nice hillside filled with huckleberries and semi open timber.  Walked down to the skidder and started sneaking up it looking for a good calling location.  Didnt get maybe 100 yards up the skidder before i caught a black blob moving through the timber feeding on berries maybe 200 yards out, downhill from me, maybe a little further.
  I took my pack off, sat under a small pine right on the edge of the skidder, and with my eyes on the bear i started calling.  I wasnt doing the screaming, dying, panicked critter sound like people tend to do a lot.  I was just mimicking the sound a fawn makes when its calling for its mom.  Just calm little bleats, nothing frantic or screeching.  The second i made the first bleat she came at me, absolutely instant reaction.  She came up a ways then stopped to listen, so i did another bleat or two and she came running in again, closed some distance then stopped.  Wash rinse repeat.  All in all i probably did 6 or 7 calm fawn bleats before she was in a good spot for me to shoot, about 40 yards out.  It only took about one minute. This was kind of an eye opener for me, the way that very first bleat she instantly started running uphill looking for me, and would stop and look / listen / smell after not hearing anything for a few seconds, then one more little bleat had her closing the gap again.
  This has me rethinking my approach to calling bears.  I know everybody says call for an hour, but ive never had anything, bear cougar whatever, show up after the 30 minute mark.  This bear came in the second she heard me, and to calm fawn bleats.  When i call i generally do the calm, non wounded fawn call thing for the first half hour, and then, getting discouraged, ill often start the more frantic "im getting killed" type of calling.  But i seem to get my action, with bears at least, from the earlier, calm fawn bleats.  I think im done making 45+ minute calling sessions with a loud ruckus.  For one thing i just havent been successful that way, and for another, if i end up calling for an hour, doing the louder, more frantic calling, i feel like ive disturbed the woods for a good distance around me, and the jig is up, and i then feel like i need to look for a new calling location at least a half mile away as the crow flies, to be calling in a "fresh area."  This results in me only getting a couple calling sessions in per day, 3 at most since i dont want to call too late into the day and be dealing with a dead bear in the dark.  I think from now on, for bears anyway, im going to stick with the calm fawn bleats, and go with a 30 minute maximum.  I feel like any bear within hearing range would come into that within 30, and making less of a loud, attention getting disturbance, i think i could get away with doing another set without having to move nearly as far away from my last set.  The shorter time spent calling, and the shorter distance ill feel i need to move before calling again will enable me to get more calling sessions in per day, while also spooking less animals.
  Just my thoughts from my observations.  We will see how it works out for me next year.  At the end of the day i got exactly what i wanted from this one, and it was so easy i almost felt like i was cheating.  I wanted a smaller bear than the last one, easier to deal with and i got a lot of meat out of the big boar anyway.  I also was hoping for a sow, since that helps with population control more than killing a boar.  And this is the first actual black black bear ive killed.  All my other bears have been color phase.  Even the boar i got the previous week, looks black in the pic, but he was actually a real dark dirty brown.  Ive been wanting a true black one for a rug, and this black sow had a really great coat for an august bear, plenty good for a nice rug, and shes not so big that she will take up too much wall space.  Basically the exact bear i was hoping for.  And the icing on the cake was that i only had to pack her out maybe 150 yards to the road, then walk back a half mile to the truck and drive back to where i left her and load her up into the coolers.
  Now looking forward to sept 1st deer season.

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Re: Educational call-in
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2019, 10:01:39 AM »
Nice job, and nice bear. :tup:
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Re: Educational call-in
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2019, 10:59:31 AM »
Really cool to read how the process worked out all while able to watch the bearís reactions! Thanks for sharing
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Re: Educational call-in
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2019, 11:03:03 AM »
I for one like your plan. With no frantic calling the bear is probably not worried about who else might be there.

Nicely done!
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Re: Educational call-in
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2019, 11:07:23 AM »
Thanks for sharing. I agree with your observations and also have similar experiences with nothing really coming in past the 20-30 minute mark. We definitely learn something from each encounter so even better if we can learn something from yours also.

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Re: Educational call-in
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2019, 12:31:01 PM »
Great write up! Thx for sharing  :tup:

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Re: Educational call-in
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2019, 01:06:41 PM »
I for one like your plan. With no frantic calling the bear is probably not worried about who else might be there.

Nicely done!

I cant help but think maybe when bears are taking 30-60 minutes to come in, its maybe when people are doing the more frantic "getting killed by something" type calling, so the bears are being much slower out of caution, and maybe those same bears would have come in a lot sooner to a calm fawn bleat noise, not being worried about what other predators they might encounter on the scene.  After all, sound only carries so far.  Just a theory, but i guess its got a good beat and you can dance to it.

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Re: Educational call-in
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2019, 01:38:49 PM »
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I am going to try calling bear this year. I will definitely try the soft bleats before ratcheting up to distress calling.

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Re: Educational call-in
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2019, 01:48:53 PM »
Great story, congrats.
I have the same experience. I mainly use the cottontail call, start calm for a minute then switch to loud distress, but never had a bear show up. I've had two cases where the bear was in the thicket eating berries and there was no way for me to see them or get close, I started with the loud distress and they never even came out. Both of them were about 100 yards away from me.
That's definitely something to think about. We win or we learn.


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Re: Educational call-in
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2019, 08:07:05 AM »
I always start my calling sequence with normal bleats, probably a good 5 to 10 minutes before I start the panic screams and even then I start those off on the quieter side.  I do not want to blow something out that is bedded down near by.  Great write up.
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Re: Educational call-in
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2019, 08:22:29 AM »
When she was coming in, was she covering ground quietly, or making a fair bit of noise?
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Re: Educational call-in
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2019, 08:37:49 AM »
A couple years ago while bow hunting I was Sitting on one side of a big draw watching the other open side, threw out my first cow call, instantly seen movement heading strait down the hill, got the binos on it and it was a cougar, actually 2 of them. It ran 50 yards and would stop, look, smell, listen... Iíd call again and it would zero in on my location and take off running twords me again. Did this 5 -6 Times before it made it in the thick stuff below me. I was bow hunting solo and it was crazy thick on my side of the draw. Didnít have a cougar tag so I cautiously walked back down the thick overgrown road.
Makes me wonder how many times that happens that you never see them coming in...

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Re: Educational call-in
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2019, 09:01:30 AM »
When she was coming in, was she covering ground quietly, or making a fair bit of noise?

I dont really recall any noise, but then again i wasnt really paying attention to my ears like when im cold calling.  She was not really being sneaky though, she was running.  Not a full on sprint, but a good steady loping run.  Bear i called in on the 6th was absolutely silent.  Bear i called in on the 3rd came charging in, crashing loud through the brush, full speed ahead no stealth, but i didnt quite get a shot at it.

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Re: Educational call-in
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2019, 09:02:39 AM »
Makes me wonder how many times that happens that you never see them coming in...

A bunch of times!   :tup:
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Re: Educational call-in
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2019, 01:19:45 PM »
When she was coming in, was she covering ground quietly, or making a fair bit of noise?

I dont really recall any noise, but then again i wasnt really paying attention to my ears like when im cold calling.  She was not really being sneaky though, she was running.  Not a full on sprint, but a good steady loping run.  Bear i called in on the 6th was absolutely silent.  Bear i called in on the 3rd came charging in, crashing loud through the brush, full speed ahead no stealth, but i didnt quite get a shot at it.

I'm sure any animal, there are different mentalities, maybe even day to day depending on whats going on around them. I envision smaller bears being more cautious, and bigger bears being more aggressive. The caveat to that could be a bigger bear is more experienced and has been called to a few times, knows to come in quietly, while a younger bear doesn't have that experience and comes busting in. I suppose thats what keeps it interesting, you just never know what's going to happen! I like the idea of the "natural" low key calls, vs. a traditional distress call. There's a myriad of stories out there from elk hunters and turkey hunters calling in all kinds of predators while hunting, so they are obviously in tune to those sounds. Thanks for the story and the experience, that's a good tool to keep in your back pocket. 
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