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collarum trap
« on: October 05, 2019, 10:58:33 PM »
Too bad we couldn't use something like this, tougher to use than a foot hold for sure, doesn't kill like a snare.   

The live market trappers in other states use these so there's no damage to the coyote for catch dog practice, so they sell them live market. 


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Re: collarum trap
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2019, 04:01:26 AM »
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Re: collarum trap
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2019, 06:16:18 PM »

Great tool for WCO's and Fur Trappers to have but like you said, we can't use them.
The bummer part is I have six of them and extra cable snares for each one collecting dust.
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Re: collarum trap
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2019, 07:18:33 PM »
😂😂😂that poor door won't pick up anything new ever again!

Do they grip tighter than it appears?
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Re: collarum trap
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2019, 07:34:02 PM »
😂😂😂that poor door won't pick up anything new ever again!

Do they grip tighter than it appears?

It's a thick cable restraint with a relaxing lock.  When the dog stops pulling the lock (for lack of a better term) relaxes. 

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Re: collarum trap
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2019, 05:40:37 PM »
So wouldn't that fall into the restraining category and not body griping?

Seems like it should be legal..... or is the WDFW just enforcing it as body gripping.
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Re: collarum trap
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2019, 08:00:28 PM »
I'm not sure they've ever been asked  :dunno:

I did some serious googling and found one obscure .pdf study that said the collarum trap did have a very high success rate at not getting bycatch and overall safety but there was some occasional damage and bruising, and only one coyote died in the study where the cable somehow got past the stop and went full tight.

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Re: collarum trap
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2019, 09:27:04 PM »
Here is the wording defining what a body-gripping trap is;
 "2) "Body-gripping trap" means a trap that grips an animal's body or body part. Body-gripping trap includes, but is not limited to, steel-jawed leghold traps, padded-jaw leghold traps, Conibear traps, neck snares, and nonstrangling foot snares. Cage and box traps, suitcase-type live beaver traps, and common rat and mouse traps are not considered body-gripping traps."

I purposely bolded that part. It is a catch-all phrase that basically makes all traps illegal. Than the last sentence goes on to define through exception all traps that are not "body-gripping traps.
Also note the wording includes neck snares as a body-gripping trap. The Collarum would fall under the definition of a neck snare.
I have tried to find some interest in an exemption for cable-restraints which the Collarum would be but to no avail.
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