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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #45 on: October 30, 2019, 12:51:59 PM »
Bags are rated at survival temp not comfort rating..a zero bag will be good for low 30s Mid 20s for comfort level depending on the person.....if u want to be warm in the cold you need a negative bag..

If u want to warm up a little throw a hot hands in the bag it will increase your comfort level a few degrees...

Not true, its a comfort rating system.

A 0* bag from one company may match up more comparably to a 15* bag from another.


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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #46 on: October 30, 2019, 12:56:39 PM »
I usually run a gas powered sack heater.

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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #47 on: October 30, 2019, 01:14:25 PM »
I usually run a gas powered sack heater.

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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #48 on: October 30, 2019, 01:15:33 PM »
I usually run a gas powered sack heater.

Does your wife pull start that heater for you? Or is it manual?
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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #49 on: October 30, 2019, 01:31:23 PM »
I usually run a gas powered sack heater.


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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #50 on: October 30, 2019, 01:34:57 PM »
Kick start due to high compression.

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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #51 on: October 30, 2019, 01:46:37 PM »
Kick start due to high compression.

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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #52 on: October 30, 2019, 03:44:57 PM »
A handwarmer or two in the bag (one by the feet, one by the chest, never on bare skin though) was a pretty good trick in the military that let me use a 30 degree bag in the field if it was colder than expected. Hot water bottle also works well, if time consuming to boil.

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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #53 on: October 31, 2019, 06:13:36 AM »
I have a klymit pad that blows up and there is a HUGE difference between sleeping on that versus the ground. Not even a question. I can feel the ground almost immediately thru bag if I am off my pad when ground is frozen.

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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #54 on: October 31, 2019, 12:18:48 PM »
Foam

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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #55 on: October 31, 2019, 12:37:08 PM »
A handwarmer or two in the bag (one by the feet, one by the chest, never on bare skin though) was a pretty good trick in the military that let me use a 30 degree bag in the field if it was colder than expected. Hot water bottle also works well, if time consuming to boil.

I have done the handwarmer route before and it helps a lot. I just used in the foot of the bag
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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #56 on: October 31, 2019, 01:16:20 PM »
Different pads have different R-values.  Buy a Downmat from Exped and you will not get cold.  You also will not slide around.  My pad has the individual cores, if one pops you still have all the rest to keep you off the ground.  I fill the outside two the most and leave the inside cores a little under inflated to cradle me.  It is an amzing system.  I sleep in my boxers with a quilt and stay plenty warm.  My quilt straps to the pad keeping everything in place.  I have enough room that I put my cloths under the quilt so they are warm in the morning. 

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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #57 on: October 31, 2019, 05:59:43 PM »
On a side note my wife got me an inflatable pillow (I think sea to summit) two years ago for a gift. I felt like a sissy pulling it out of my pack but I slept even better with it then using a rolled up puffy or my wool pants. I imagine anything to help feel more comfortable at night will help.

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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #58 on: November 01, 2019, 06:43:29 AM »
A MAJOR sleeping issue with today's generation of flatbrimmers is running pads that inflate.
Thermarest is a slippery joke.
I called them and asked why they don't use a fabric that wont slide on a cott or sleeping bag and the guy said we receive a lot of complaints about that but nothing is in the works to change.
I own 4 of them and they sit on the shelf and collect mouse piss now.

If your pad inflates that is 75% of your cold problem.
Air has next to nothing for insulation value and thinking because there is a little foam in there it will be different is a cool concept...............................Literally.

Foam is the answer.
Foam pads don't slip, don't hold air, and flat out insulate.
Sleep on a foam pad=Sleep warm.

R value is R value.  It's not relative to material when comparing equal values.

I agree that Foam is more comfortable, and doesn't slip like air pads. 
Pad slipping is one of my main sleep issues when in the backcountry, but certainly not worth packing in a bulky foam pad.
I'd add that a few minutes of site prep alleviates a lot of pad slip. Start with a flat spot and you don't slide around near as much.  Some simple strips of leuko tape also nukes the issue

Some stripes of seam sealer works wonders as well 😉
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Re: Kinda cold in my bag
« Reply #59 on: November 01, 2019, 06:52:14 AM »
Exped downmat 7 keeps me toasty even on snow. 

 


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