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Re: Taking away quality permits or general season
« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2019, 07:06:21 PM »
When we went from game wardens to LEO the poaching increased. Game wardens were not allowed to concentrate on game violations. Now they spend over 3/4 of their time doing paper work instead of fish and game issues like poaching. We cannot. Expect an increase in cougar quota or wolf issues with a lame duck governor that thinks he knows more than wdfw personnel

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Re: Taking away quality permits or general season
« Reply #46 on: November 11, 2019, 07:35:49 PM »
Predators and Poaching.  These are the problems whose solution sets are self-evident.

Fix these and I guarantee the internet typer-sniper griping will evaporate overnight.

There are more predators in this state than WDFW will admit (or knows) to having.

Poaching is also rampant. The 140ish WDFW "enforcement agents" in a state of nearly 7.5 million people is a <insert justifiably massive inflammatory swear word or phrase here> joke. 

We desperately need more boots-on-the-ground GAME WARDENS and genuine sustainable, science-based BIOLOGISTS working throughout the state and a helluva lot fewer lying CYA political hacks in Olympia.
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Re: Taking away quality permits or general season
« Reply #47 on: November 11, 2019, 07:38:04 PM »
Admittedly I have not read through this thread. Hunting participation is going down down down. If we went to a permit only system it would plummet. I want more people to hunt so I want general season and better management and law enforcement. We have a lot less area/habitat to population then the big destination western states. So we need to have antler restrictions and limited seasons but I will take that with the ability to hunt every year and go get more people into this sport.
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Re: Taking away quality permits or general season
« Reply #48 on: November 11, 2019, 07:38:42 PM »
#1 thing to start.  Human predators.  Do away with multi season permits completely, way to much pressure on the herds. This could be achieved only if a way was figured out to keep WDFW lifeblood (money) at the same income level.

 I gave a example of how that could be done too, and how to eliminate the point system in the process!
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Re: Taking away quality permits or general season
« Reply #49 on: November 11, 2019, 07:44:54 PM »
Im totally on the side of scrapping the point system and limiting permits to 1 species applications. We have general seasons on deer, elk and bear. I would like more discernment when it comes to permits... but its all about money.
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Re: Taking away quality permits or general season
« Reply #50 on: November 11, 2019, 08:11:08 PM »
#1 thing to start.  Human predators.  Do away with multi season permits completely, way to much pressure on the herds. This could be achieved only if a way was figured out to keep WDFW lifeblood (money) at the same income level.

 I gave a example of how that could be done too, and how to eliminate the point system in the process!

 Here you go.

 https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,214387.msg2854669.html#msg2854669
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Re: Taking away quality permits or general season
« Reply #51 on: November 11, 2019, 09:47:57 PM »
Same old argument many of you have had for years, screw that, Im entitled and have to hunt every year!

 And like some of us have been saying since then, its going to happen regardless how much you whine, only difference is it will be far worse if WDFW come up with a compromise/solution than if we as hunters do.

 Get your crying towels ready! :chuckle:

Well, I guess I got to agree with this, phool just poked it in the eye :tup:.....phool ,when we gonna meet for that beer?

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Re: Taking away quality permits or general season
« Reply #52 on: November 11, 2019, 09:57:43 PM »
Same old argument many of you have had for years, screw that, Im entitled and have to hunt every year!

 And like some of us have been saying since then, its going to happen regardless how much you whine, only difference is it will be far worse if WDFW come up with a compromise/solution than if we as hunters do.

 Get your crying towels ready! :chuckle:

Well, I guess I got to agree with this, phool just poked it in the eye :tup:.....phool ,when we gonna meet for that beer?

 Honestly Ill drive 5 hours for a beer and good conversation! ;)
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Re: Taking away quality permits or general season
« Reply #53 on: November 11, 2019, 10:05:11 PM »
I seen too many elk eating veggies and flowers off people's porches in AZ, mules doing the same in many towns, elk in the parking lots of Yellowstone, WT making use of alfalfa growing in the ditches of major highways to be skyscreaming about habitat being the end to all the elk or deer.  We cant do anything about big pieces of private land being broken into small pieces and houses popping up.

But we can do other things, make use of available habitat and improve where we can.

Theres many areas of the state where available habitat is severely underutilized...huge dead zones nearly devoid of herds, just a few hangers on here and there.  Those dead areas could make up for areas of the state where habitat may be the limiting factor, easily so.

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Re: Taking away quality permits or general season
« Reply #54 on: November 11, 2019, 10:07:06 PM »
 Habitat loss is pure BS!

 Wake the $# up people! :bash:
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Re: Taking away quality permits or general season
« Reply #55 on: November 11, 2019, 10:17:50 PM »
Habitat loss is pure BS!

 Wake the $# up people! :bash:
Yup

Its predators far and away the biggest factor of herd decline, and until we address that I'm in favor of scorched earth. Kill all the elk, deer and starve them out. Make the skinny cats kill skinnier cats, coyotes have tiny litters that don't survive, bears that have bad early summers and go to sleep underweight, and wolves that come into urban areas and scare the sheeple


Scorched earth is a policy where we dont have to change a thing, dont lift a finger, just continue as we have been and it'll arrive. Has arrived.

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Re: Taking away quality permits or general season
« Reply #56 on: November 11, 2019, 10:56:06 PM »
Habitat loss is pure BS!

 Wake the $# up people! :bash:
Yup

Its predators far and away the biggest factor of herd decline, and until we address that I'm in favor of scorched earth. Kill all the elk, deer and starve them out. Make the skinny cats kill skinnier cats, coyotes have tiny litters that don't survive, bears that have bad early summers and go to sleep underweight, and wolves that come into urban areas and scare the sheeple


Scorched earth is a policy where we dont have to change a thing, dont lift a finger, just continue as we have been and it'll arrive. Has arrived.

 But lets watch as the unaware continue to soak up the liberal excuses and left wing solutions...such as the Weilgus cougar study!
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Re: Taking away quality permits or general season
« Reply #57 on: November 11, 2019, 11:06:51 PM »
The problem is if you start to limit tags issued then you either need to raise the price to make up for lost revenue or the state will have even less funds to pay enforcement officers, bios,etc.
Downhill spiral
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Re: Taking away quality permits or general season
« Reply #58 on: November 11, 2019, 11:12:39 PM »
And the more funding that comes from the general fund the less say hunters will have in what happens (if you think its bad now....)
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Re: Taking away quality permits or general season
« Reply #59 on: November 11, 2019, 11:51:32 PM »
The problem is if you start to limit tags issued then you either need to raise the price to make up for lost revenue or the state will have even less funds to pay enforcement officers, bios,etc.
Downhill spiral

 Did you bother to read what I wrote?
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