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Re: Iím guaranteed to never
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2019, 12:32:46 PM »
Imagine you were a retiring old school game warden who in their long and passionate career watched the decline and politicization of our wildlife.   You'd write a book about it.


So glad I didn't become a WDFW game warden back in the mid to late 90's,  I'd be crying now too   :bash:   :bash:

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Re: Iím guaranteed to never
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2019, 12:40:47 PM »
What do I have to lose....I guess Iíll add another comment

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Re: Iím guaranteed to never
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2019, 12:51:32 PM »
In what ways are you going toe to toe with the department? Iíd like to get more involved but donít know what else to do besides fill out surveys, public comment and write emails. Let me know. I think thereís a ton of people who have had enough but donít know what to do besides write emails and post on here.

Do you belong to a sportsmens club/Organization? If yes tell them you want to get involved. If NO, then join one. Not all organizations  engage the political processes as much as others. Many of these are Habitat based organizations that are well know the names to but dont engage the politics. SCI is probably the best national org on this matter. Most state/local Orgs engage and could use your help.

To be honest, which one do i join? I actively hunt the NE corner of WA and have issues the the current management strategy in this area. Which organization is actively aligning with my perception? A lot of those large organizations are awesome, but what are they doing that currently aligns with my passion?   

Also, as a sportsman why it so hard to identify the organization that is actively promoting healthy ungulate populations in Eastern WA. I see we talk about it all the time here on huntWA but I often feel like we are just preaching to the choir.....with little actual organization. Is there any???   

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Re: Iím guaranteed to never
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2019, 12:52:38 PM »
That is a really good question

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Re: Iím guaranteed to never
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2019, 12:55:41 PM »
Let me know which one is ready to get active with lawsuits.  I get the habitat part and participate in that, but it's only one side of the coin.  We seem to be really, really bad at the other side.

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Re: Iím guaranteed to never
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2019, 01:00:58 PM »
See I stopped the RMEF.   Iím sure,thatís going to fire up,all sorts of peeps.   I disagreed with their patronization of the tribe.   I understand they donít care about the opinion of one guy, but I wasnít going to give one cent.   My choice.

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Re: Iím guaranteed to never
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2019, 01:03:19 PM »
Nice to see that Bone.  I too dropped them for similar reasons a couple years ago. 
Look man, some times you just gotta roll the dice

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Re: Iím guaranteed to never
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2019, 01:42:34 PM »
So they drove around and looked at deer all day.  Sounds rough.   :'(

I was gonna say... Grit and Parkas? Sounds more like Snacks, Gas, and Washer Fluid...

I grew up interacting with the Department of Fisheries. My Dad was a lifelong commercial fisherman, Great Lakes, Gulf of Mexico, then here in the NW. He went to the UW School of Fisheries, then back to the water before I was born. He had lots of the same sentiment as you, Bone... I saw it too when I went out on the water myself. Just not a lot of effort to do population census' wisely, a LOT of assumption and estimating based on nothing, and a TON of promoting themselves to the apartment dwellers in the Puget Sound basin.

Nothing has changed. The "Adventurous" job of a WDFW Bio continues to be the stuff of myth and legend....

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Re: Iím guaranteed to never
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2019, 01:52:47 PM »
I can't get much more jaded with WDFW than I am now, but then each new day seems to prove me wrong. 


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Re: Iím guaranteed to never
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2019, 02:38:11 PM »
I gave up on DU because they are habitat based and dont get involved in politics... AND they have helped  in the flooding of some of my favorite Hunting spots.

Im a Proud member of the Washington Waterfowl Association, and I have on my Christmas list a  SCI membership. I know some sportsmen clubs are pretty involved. Inland NW Empire wildlife council out of Spokane (they put on the bighorn show)  and likely others.
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Re: Iím guaranteed to never
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2019, 03:06:50 PM »
In what ways are you going toe to toe with the department? Iíd like to get more involved but donít know what else to do besides fill out surveys, public comment and write emails. Let me know. I think thereís a ton of people who have had enough but donít know what to do besides write emails and post on here.
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Re: Iím guaranteed to never
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2019, 03:09:50 PM »
When you have an agenda, your consensus is always predetermined, to included determined for you on the outside chance you may try to think for yourself. 

RMEF, NRA, WDFW, and even unions.......Dont believe anything you read or hear and only half of what you see.  Lobbyists should be illegal.

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Re: Iím guaranteed to never
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2019, 03:49:57 PM »
I will tell ya how I feel.
I wouldn't give the dog crap off the bottom of my shoe to the biologist a WDFW.Its pretty straight forward that it's the same sad story (everything is ok,deer numbers are good).
They can't even see anything is wrong till where down to the last ten deer.OMG Its gonna take years to recover.Where did they count the 100 hundred deer at private back yards ,Man I can't wait for that opportunity next year.Honesty if they can't manage deer before we are in a ten year recovery period of no permits,limited season,and little to none opportunity,they should lose there job period.I don't get go to work and have poor job performance .
Two birds in the Bush is always better than one in the hand-that way you can always go to the Bush and hunt another day .conservation=Better hunting.
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Re: Iím guaranteed to never
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2019, 03:57:28 PM »
I'm guessing if these simpletons drove through Conconully on an average day they'd immediately declare there was 25 million mule deer in the state.
Look man, some times you just gotta roll the dice

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Re: Iím guaranteed to never
« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2019, 04:54:22 PM »
I'm guessing if these simpletons drove through Conconully on an average day they'd immediately declare there was 25 million mule deer in the state.
As long as they didn't leave the city limits. If they did, they would put them on the endangered species list...

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