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okay Im confused on the powder differences
« on: April 06, 2009, 06:22:00 PM »
can someone explain the powder diffrences,from black powder to all the other types and all those frigging fffs :dunno: thanks

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RE: okay Im confused on the powder differences
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2009, 06:30:03 PM »
Coarse granulations are called "FG or FFG". Finer granulations are "FFFg and "FFFFg". The more "F's", the finer the Black Powder is, and the faster it burns.
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RE: okay Im confused on the powder differences
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2009, 06:33:28 PM »
Coarse granulations are called "FG or FFG". Finer granulations are "FFFg and "FFFFg". The more "F's", the finer the Black Powder is, and the faster it burns.

okay I got that now,thank you,how bout advantages or disadvantages of black powder verses other types   :hello:

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RE: okay Im confused on the powder differences
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2009, 07:30:26 PM »
Not sure on the technicalities, but Pyrodex is cleaner/less corrosive than black powder, and Hogden Triple7 is cleaner yet. But thats as far as my powder knowledge goes.

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RE: okay Im confused on the powder differences
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2009, 07:40:21 PM »
Coarse granulations are called "FG or FFG". Finer granulations are "FFFg and "FFFFg". The more "F's", the finer the Black Powder is, and the faster it burns.

okay I got that now,thank you,how bout advantages or disadvantages of black powder verses other types   :hello:


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RE: okay Im confused on the powder differences
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2009, 08:18:19 PM »
those articles do it all for me thanks alot

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Re: okay Im confused on the powder differences
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2009, 06:57:39 AM »
Fg: A cannon

FFg: 50 caliber & above

FFFg: Less than 50 caliber; 45 caliber & below

FFFFg: Priming the pan of a flintlock

READ YOUR OWNER'S MANUAL!  :bash: The above info. is from another GREAT source, the Dixie Gun Works catalog...$5.00 well spent:

www.dixiegunworks.com

 Pyrodex and other blackpowder substitutes will list the FFg, FFFg, etc. equivalent on the can. DO NOT SUBSTITUTE ONE SMALLER GRAINED POWDER DIRECTLY FOR A LARGER ONE OR SERIOUS PRESSURE PROBLEMS WILL RESULT!!! :bash: :bdid:
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Re: okay Im confused on the powder differences
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2009, 11:59:05 AM »
can someone explain the powder diffrences,from black powder to all the other types and all those frigging fffs :dunno: thanks

Smaller grains of powder do not burn faster. They burn more uniform and volume by volume produce more pressure in your rifle. That is why you must be careful with your loads.  It takes less FFF than FF (by volume) to produce the same pressures in your barrel. You can substitute FFF for FF or vice versa if you want, just make sure you find what volumes are equal.  I shoot triple F in my 54 cal because if I try and use FF I cannot put the whole load into my quick load because I use a large load. Triple F allows me to load less by volume thus not filling the speed loader up as much. I also believe my rifle is more accurate shot to shot using triple F although there are those that would argue that point.

As for Black powder and substitutes. There are many.  I use 777 myself. Found it to be much cleaner and more consistant than black powder. But again check your load. It has been found that 777 creates more pressure volume to volume than blackpowder. I use 10 grains less 777 than Blackpowder in my TC. One tip. Even though some substitutes advertise not having to clean between shots, don't believe it. To get the best results, at a minimum swab between every two shots and I do it after each shot.  Found one substitute that I no longer use allowed me not to clean between shots but actually created drag on the bullet.  Sighted the rifle in not cleaning between 5 shots. Bullet slid down fine. But when I cleaned it and shot the first shot it was way high. I finally figured that out and wrote the makers of the substitute. Now they don't advertise the ability to not clean between shots anymore.


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Re: okay Im confused on the powder differences
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2009, 04:33:52 PM »
Substatutes are harder to ignite. By that I mean they need a hotter flame to fully ignite. I'm a black powder user, but I am no expert.

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Re: okay Im confused on the powder differences
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2009, 04:44:58 PM »
Substitute powders in my opinion are okay,I shoot both black and pyrodex select.I use CCI Magnum caps for substitute powders,and usually for black ( caplock).Blackpowder only in flint.Whatever you use be sure to measure by VOLUME and not weight. Hope this helps.

 


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