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Is it time to make Bow Seasons same rules as Rifle and Muzzy?
« on: January 31, 2020, 07:07:40 PM »
Is it time that bow hunters start getting drawn for cows or spikes?

In a state with too many hunters, too many predators , liberal native hunting and too little game ,can we continue to allow bow hunters to shoot either Spike or Cow when everyone one else has to draw for cows.

We all pay the same money. So shouldn’t we have the same opportunity?
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Re: Is it time to make Bow Seasons same rules as Rifle and Muzzy?
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2020, 07:26:41 PM »
Everybody has the same opportunity to choose to hunt with archery equipment.  :twocents:

I want the opportunity for my bow to shoot 600yds. I pay the same for a tag, right? And where can bowhunters shoot spikes where rifle cant?
« Last Edit: January 31, 2020, 07:39:13 PM by Jellymon »

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Re: Is it time to make Bow Seasons same rules as Rifle and Muzzy?
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2020, 07:40:09 PM »
Everyone has the opportunity to hunt archery....

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Re: Is it time to make Bow Seasons same rules as Rifle and Muzzy?
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2020, 07:53:27 PM »
Archery is not the same opportunity as rifle.  Ive had to watch a number of real nice animals walk out of my life because i didnt have a shot i considered ethical with a bow, but would have been able to kill with my rifle extremely easily.  It is far far harder to kill an animal with a bow than it is with a gun.  Hence longer seasons and additional opportunity.

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Re: Is it time to make Bow Seasons same rules as Rifle and Muzzy?
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2020, 07:53:50 PM »
If I do recall elk herds were pretty robust with over the counter cow archery harvest. Then a higher weapon choice had excessive, excessive, and even more excessive high success rate cow tags given. And now herds are claimed to be down. But that's ok to do when it's for the benefit of that user.
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Re: Is it time to make Bow Seasons same rules as Rifle and Muzzy?
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2020, 08:06:52 PM »
 :yeah:
Take a look at where the harvest came from prior to the current 3 year package. Three years of 300ish tags for both modern and muzzy in every GMU hammered down the Yakima herd.
Unfortunately, you won't find the numbers for elk killed with landowner kill permits and damage tags, but that's a big part of the equation.
Diminishing the already meager opportunities of the different weapon classes is not the answer

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Re: Is it time to make Bow Seasons same rules as Rifle and Muzzy?
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2020, 08:22:57 PM »
Here's the plan.
We combine rifle and muzzy for longer season.
And bow season starts to have same rule as modern muzzy.
Now let the popcorn fly.I'm waiting.
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Re: Is it time to make Bow Seasons same rules as Rifle and Muzzy?
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2020, 08:25:05 PM »
Little Natches 2018. Shame on you archery hunters for taking so many elk. Let modern have a few.
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Re: Is it time to make Bow Seasons same rules as Rifle and Muzzy?
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2020, 10:42:08 PM »
Archery is not the same opportunity as rifle.  Ive had to watch a number of real nice animals walk out of my life because i didnt have a shot i considered ethical with a bow, but would have been able to kill with my rifle extremely easily.  It is far far harder to kill an animal with a bow than it is with a gun.  Hence longer seasons and additional opportunity.

Exactly.  Unbelievable sometimes how people minimize the difference in difficulty.  Even Muzzy is so much easier than archery when it comes to getting a shot on an animal. 

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Re: Is it time to make Bow Seasons same rules as Rifle and Muzzy?
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2020, 10:58:35 PM »
Archery is not the same opportunity as rifle.  Ive had to watch a number of real nice animals walk out of my life because i didnt have a shot i considered ethical with a bow, but would have been able to kill with my rifle extremely easily.  It is far far harder to kill an animal with a bow than it is with a gun.  Hence longer seasons and additional opportunity.

Exactly.  Unbelievable sometimes how people minimize the difference in difficulty.  Even Muzzy is so much easier than archery when it comes to getting a shot on an animal.

Ive had trophy bucks broadside at 30 and 40 yards with a bow in my hand and let them walk.  Not only the difficulty of drawing when you cant be seen, then holding draw until you have a shot opportunity, then maybe having to let down your draw when you cant hold it any longer, and you can be seen letting down.. but also the consideration of a deer jumping the string...  yeah, even a muzzy would have notched a lot of tags for me that i didnt notch because i was holding a bow.  Its another major set of challenges using a bow, so it makes sense to have less restricted opportunities.

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Re: Is it time to make Bow Seasons same rules as Rifle and Muzzy?
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2020, 12:29:08 AM »
There are a lot of bow hunters out there hunting elk. It’s already hard enough to be successful archery hunting elk. Take away the incentive of being able to shoot a cow and a little longer season and a lot of guys will just switch back to modern or muzzy making those seasons more crowded. As someone who’s bow hunted elk for 35 years I can tell you as bow hunting has gotten more popular the last 10-15 years, there are A LOT of them out there. You might want to keep them there and not in your already crowded modern and muzzy seasons.

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Re: Is it time to make Bow Seasons same rules as Rifle and Muzzy?
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2020, 06:51:42 AM »
If this state knew how to manage game we wouldnt even be debating any of this. They are so over reactionary. " cant kill any cows for years then there is too many and kill them all" Same with Does after fires etc, Look at the Methow, Entiat etc

Lets not blame the user groups, its the game department that has their head up their a$$

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Re: Is it time to make Bow Seasons same rules as Rifle and Muzzy?
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2020, 07:08:35 AM »
If this state knew how to manage game we wouldnt even be debating any of this. They are so over reactionary. " cant kill any cows for years then there is too many and kill them all" Same with Does after fires etc, Look at the Methow, Entiat etc

Lets not blame the user groups, its the game department that has their head up their a$$

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Re: Is it time to make Bow Seasons same rules as Rifle and Muzzy?
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2020, 08:35:16 AM »
We all pay the same money. So shouldn’t we have the same opportunity?

You do, go get a bow and start practicing.

 


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