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Deleting PowerStroke
« on: February 21, 2020, 11:58:56 AM »
I am considering getting my '13 Powerstroke deleted. Any shop recommendations?

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Re: Deleting PowerStroke
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2020, 12:04:21 PM »
Most shops won't touch it because it is a federally mandated emissions system.
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Re: Deleting PowerStroke
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2020, 12:11:34 PM »
Ya need a friend mechanic and case of Coors!  Order kits online and get after it.
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Re: Deleting PowerStroke
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2020, 07:55:13 PM »
What does "deleting" mean? I see this referenced often.

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Re: Deleting PowerStroke
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2020, 09:02:15 PM »
What does "deleting" mean? I see this referenced often.

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Removing emissions stuff. Egr system, DPF, etc.
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Re: Deleting PowerStroke
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2020, 09:03:24 PM »
Most shops won't touch it because it is a federally mandated emissions system.

This. Itís illegal to tamper with so most places wonít risk their livelihoods.
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Re: Deleting PowerStroke
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2020, 10:07:23 PM »
Illegal now, yes.  What blows my mind is people will pay 80,000 for these trucks but wont spend 2500$ on delete and tuning.   Yet that deleted truck is the one getting 12-17mpg and blowing by ya on the pass with heavy loads??   Hmm.  I know I will just keep on trucking Vantage on cruise at 68mph loaded.  500hp is kinda fun as well.  :twocents:   Pyrometer required!!
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Re: Deleting PowerStroke
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2020, 03:06:54 AM »
As some one whom uses thier truck for work, I will keep my pre 2007 dodge Cummins till the wheels fall off. Then I will fix and bolt back on. 20k to replace the motor and transmission seems like a deal compared to the garbage that is out there now. Especially when you compare the cost of new.

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Re: Deleting PowerStroke
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2020, 06:57:31 AM »
Where are you located? I can help you out or recommend a good shop.

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Re: Deleting PowerStroke
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2020, 07:49:25 AM »
Illegal now, yes.  What blows my mind is people will pay 80,000 for these trucks but wont spend 2500$ on delete and tuning.   Yet that deleted truck is the one getting 12-17mpg and blowing by ya on the pass with heavy loads??   Hmm.  I know I will just keep on trucking Vantage on cruise at 68mph loaded.  500hp is kinda fun as well.  :twocents:   Pyrometer required!!

Itís always been illegal, the epa is just recently stepping up enforcement. Theyíve been putting the screws on h manufacturers. Pretty soon only epa compliant tunes will be available.

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Re: Deleting PowerStroke
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2020, 08:38:08 AM »
Ya, true.  I have 06 Dodge.  I bought it and it had a stupid tuner box on it Quadzilla I think?  Ya could adjust/tune everything manually.  Darn truck was making 46psi boost and I couldn't stop it.  Maybe truck has head studs and injectors but I do not know for sure so I removed it.  I had Anarchy diesel, tuner Phil write custom tunes for my truck.  I told him what I wanted, what aftermarket parts/mods are done etc.  He wrote up good safe tunes.   Now truck will not exceed max safe boost psi, runs cleaner, responds well with the 6 speed manual trans and still has a go fast play tune.  I have switch/knob with 1-5 position that I can just turn it at will and all is good.  Optimized stock tune, heavy tow tune about 60hp, economy performance tune 90-100hp and a 140 play and a 180-200hp stupid tune.  I run #3 most the time which is the 100hp.   Tow with it normal loads and egt will stay in safe limits.Tpy hauler, dump trlr etc.  I have used tow tune 60 with toy hauler loaded up in mnts as well.  I keep egts below 1325.  If its 1300 I don't worry and stay on it.   Only downfall is no exhaust brake but a manual helps some.  If I need it I would go with a Pacbrake exhaust brake with a stock/475 twin turbo set up.  With this set truck is almost un touchable imop.  Cummins are such good engines.
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Re: Deleting PowerStroke
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2020, 08:46:22 AM »
Not trying to start anything negative here but I don't understand that if Cumins are the cat's meow then why do they all need the tuners and add ons?  :dunno:

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Re: Deleting PowerStroke
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2020, 08:50:27 AM »
Illegal now, yes.  What blows my mind is people will pay 80,000 for these trucks but wont spend 2500$ on delete and tuning.   Yet that deleted truck is the one getting 12-17mpg and blowing by ya on the pass with heavy loads??   Hmm.  I know I will just keep on trucking Vantage on cruise at 68mph loaded.  500hp is kinda fun as well.  :twocents:   Pyrometer required!!

Mostly because 90% of them people who have those trucks dont use them to their full potential and can get away with half tons, and maybe because you can do the same with a stock truck. 475hp and 1050lbs-ft of torque from a powerstroke without having to spend $2500 to mess with it and hope it works. Sometimes I think your fears about current diesels are stuck in the Cummins 2007.5 era.  Theyíre not issues anymore.   I worked for Dodge then. Iím aware of the issues. Iím aware thereís no convincing you of that, but if youíre using a truck like you say you do, you wonít have problems with them anymore. The problems stem from letting them idle too much and not using/working them. I know I wonít change your mind and Iím good with that.
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Re: Deleting PowerStroke
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2020, 09:04:24 AM »
 :yeah:   You are correct. :chuckle:   They are much much better now.  Agreed.  The price is the killer!   475/1000 are more than anyone will likely ever need.  Actually I do not think its safe for these new trucks to tow 35000lbs?  I am stuck at 2007.5, the year it all changed!   I am liking the new 7.3 gasser and that truck would probably do what I need quite well, except for mpg maybe!  400hp and 800tq is all I need honestly.  I am old school as well so biased in the simplicity of things and in the prospect of doing the work at home...
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Re: Deleting PowerStroke
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2020, 09:06:14 AM »
Not trying to start anything negative here but I don't understand that if Cumins are the cat's meow then why do they all need the tuners and add ons?  :dunno:
They don't but if ya do it doesn't blow up like Fords did!   Cummins has 33% less parts to break and is same design/tech as the million mile big rigs use.  So that's about it in nutshell.
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