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Re: What species am I ?
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2020, 04:45:31 PM »
That right there is a Burnworth blacktail.
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Re: What species am I ?
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2020, 04:59:28 PM »
I’ve been seeing the same tails nowhere near bt country

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Re: What species am I ?
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2020, 05:20:19 PM »
would like more details on this especially if it was around Wenatchee.  I thought I shot a cross on the high hunt 30+ years ago around Lake Wenatchee.

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Re: What species am I ?
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2020, 05:23:43 PM »
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Re: What species am I ?
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2020, 07:38:48 PM »
Interesting deer for sure. I have seen lots of different variations in mule deer tails, but this one is way closer to a blacktail tail than I have ever seen before in muley country. I will keep a closer eye on the upcoming cam checks throughout the season to see if I can find any more that are similar.
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Re: What species am I ?
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2020, 08:41:06 PM »
Benchleg. See them all the time in chelan and okanogan counties
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Re: What species am I ?
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2020, 06:11:41 AM »
Black-tailed deer-Wikipedia

Taxonomy

Though the black-tailed deer arguably is a species, virtually all recent authorities maintain it as a subspecies of the mule deer (O. hemionus).[1][2][3][4][5][6][7] Strictly speaking, the black-tailed deer group consists of two subspecies, as it also includes O. h. sitkensis (the Sitka deer).[2] The black-tailed deer group and the mule deer group (sensu stricto) hybridize, and mule deer appear to have evolved from the black-tailed deer group.[6] Despite this, the mtDNA of the white-tailed deer and mule deer are similar, but differ from that of the black-tailed deer.[6] This may be the result of introgression, although hybrids between the mule deer and white-tailed deer are rare in the wild (apparently more common locally in West Texas), and the hybrid survival rate is low even in captivity.[4][6]

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Re: What species am I ?
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2020, 05:19:14 AM »
I've been in Idaho more than once and was told there were to many blacktails in the area.  I'm a firm believer that dumb people have dumb thoughts. 
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Re: What species am I ?
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2020, 02:15:54 PM »
Mule deer? 🤷🏼‍♂️


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Re: What species am I ?
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2020, 03:24:02 PM »
Whitetail are the basis for all three species, been around for millions of years, blacktail are a long separated species with a whitetail base that again crossed with whitetail to produce mule deer, the new kid on the block.  You can expect blends with such a diverse base.  Not really unusual to find whitetail with fangs and weird facial stripes generally lost millions of years ago.  Some curve balls exist in the DNA studies to make all of this a bit murky but generally this is what the gene studies show.

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Re: What species am I ?
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2020, 04:01:35 PM »
What I don't get is why there is still controversy over the fact that anywhere within about 25 miles of the crest, on either side, you can find Mule Deer, Blacktail, and crosses of the two.
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Re: What species am I ?
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2020, 05:08:31 PM »
That right there is a Burnworth blacktail.
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Re: What species am I ?
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2020, 06:44:23 PM »
That right there is a Burnworth blacktail.
:yeah: lol

I believe its being considered a new species of deer. Its home range is within a 2 hour driving radius of Portland, OR, any direction. This varies depending on the speed limit and which route you take. All bucks are Boone and Crockett, Pope and Young or SCI record book caliber. Unfortunately, its not found on public ground, only private. You can tell you've harvested one of these rare beasts if it smells like ferns, cedar boughs and bull feces.

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Re: What species am I ?
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2020, 08:12:39 PM »
I've been in Idaho more than once and was told there were to many blacktails in the area.  I'm a firm believer that dumb people have dumb thoughts.

An old man that lives in 121 and has a lot of killer property insists that the mule deer on his property are not mule deer, theyre blacktail.  He says the state transplanted blacktail there back before he was born.  His dad told him that, therefore its true  :chuckle:

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Re: What species am I ?
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2020, 06:27:06 AM »
I've been in Idaho more than once and was told there were to many blacktails in the area.  I'm a firm believer that dumb people have dumb thoughts.

An old man that lives in 121 and has a lot of killer property insists that the mule deer on his property are not mule deer, theyre blacktail.  He says the state transplanted blacktail there back before he was born.  His dad told him that, therefore its true  :chuckle:



LOL, My FIL used to talk about how the deer around were he lived (Columbian Whitetail) had tails that were 3' long.  :chuckle:
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